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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:25 PM
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(Bush-era) Pentagon emails ask if Canadians are 'bad guys'
Source: Associated Press

Can Canada be trusted?

In the midst of what turned out to be a bogus espionage scare over commemorative coins, senior Pentagon officials in Washington, D.C., speculated whether Canadians — widely considered to be among the United States' closest allies — might be "bad guys" involved in the spy caper.

... In sensational warnings that circulated publicly in late 2006 and early 2007, the Pentagon's Defence Security Service said coins with radio transmitters were found planted on U.S. army contractors on at least three occasions between October 2005 and January 2006 as the contractors travelled through Canada.

... What suspicious contractors believed to be "nanotechnology" on the coins actually was a protective coating the Royal Canadian Mint applied to prevent the poppy's red colour from rubbing off.

But at the height of the mystery, senior Pentagon officials speculated about Canada's involvement, according to emails marked "Secret/NoForn" and obtained by AP under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. The messages reflect the no-holds-barred attitudes over an inherent lack of trust within U.S. spy agencies.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/12/03/canada-bad-guys-espionage.html
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:29 PM
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1. Ya know, funny story...

OTTAWA — Canadian troops handed Afghan detainees to local authorities in the knowledge they would be tortured, and later tried to silence critics of the practice, a senior Ottawa diplomat told lawmakers.

"According to our information, the likelihood is that all the Afghans we handed over were tortured," Richard Colvin, former number two at the Canadian embassy in Kabul told a parliamentary committee probing allegations of torture.

He said most of the detainees were not "high-level targets" or even Taliban, but wrongly-detained peasants and farmers.

"In other words, we detained, and handed over for severe torture, a lot of innocent people," he testified.

...

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/canada-afghan-torture-allegations-diplomat/
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:49 PM
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6. Yep, little did the Pentagon know, we were the closest of 'allies'...
turning a deaf ear to the knowledge the detainees we were turning over to the Afghans, and before that, to the U.S., were being tortured. This Canadian wishes like HELL we weren't such 'good' allies. We didn't torture, oh no, not us we 'outsourced' the torture instead.

Another shameful act by Canada and this Canadian is very ashamed.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:29 PM
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2. Real life 'Canadian Bacon' -> the movie?
:crazy:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:21 PM
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10. Except maybe this time it'll be funny.
Nah.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:43 PM
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3. bush era administration officials are the equivalent of
schizoid paranoid sociopathic murderous pieces of subhuman feces
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:44 PM
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4. Finally someone is paying attention to the Canadian threat
We should put Palin on the lookout for Harper.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:46 PM
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5. Exactly who have we Canadians ever gone after?
:wtf:
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:19 PM
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7. A Lot of Blackhawk Players n/t
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:39 AM
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18. Well, you guys DID burn down the White House.
Just sayin'. ;-)
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:55 PM
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8. Blame Canada!
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:25 AM
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14. We must blame them (Canadians) and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:11 PM
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9. I hope not, I'm in Canada right NOW!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:29 PM
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11. No holds barred? Sounds more like paranoia
:shrug:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:14 AM
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12. How deeply fucking embarrassing that we have so many
deeply STUPID morans in America.


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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:06 AM
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15. We have been dumbing them down for years so don't blame them. Get them educated for christs sake.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 02:07 AM by earcandle
Even if it is done with sitcoms and drama on prime time, 
Do it just like the way this whole security industry was
manufactured,
propangandized and assimulated starting with NYPD Blue and LA
Law and reaching into the 
family breakdown with "married with children" as the

low life got more and more glorified. And what about 
Pulp Fiction... well done porn violence classy hero worship
with fantastic lives.... 

and what are we feeding them now?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:41 AM
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13. You can be sure that someday they'll sell this idea and jump the border . . .
Canadians are obviously their enemy -- health care for all -- and intelligence!!!

Dangerous ideas!!

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:57 AM
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16. Early maneouvres
in the war for Arctic gas and oil.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:51 AM
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17. Blame Canada!
Sheila: Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Liane: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?

Sheila: No, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It's Canada's fault!
Sharon: Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the darn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!
Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself!

Sheila: Well, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Copy Guy: They're not even a real country anyway
Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue
Everyone: Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Sheila: heck no!

Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their hockey hullabaloo
Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too
Everyone: Blame Canada
Shame on Canada

For...
The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
The Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:22 AM
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19. Paranoid freaks.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:22 PM
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20. 50 years from now, historians and academic researchers will still be trying to make sense
of the trainwreck of America during the Bush years...
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