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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:13 PM
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Fidel Castro says Obama's smile can't be trusted
Source: reuters

Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:31pm EST

HAVANA (Reuters) - Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro warned on Monday that President Barack Obama's "kindly smile" could not be trusted, saying Washington was plotting against leftist Latin American governments including Venezuela's.

Castro, 83, who ran Cuba for nearly 50 years before poor health led him to hand the presidency to his younger brother Raul last year, initially welcomed Obama's election but has been increasingly critical...



"The empire is mobilizing behind rightist forces in Latin America to strike Venezuela and, in doing so, strike (other leftist) states," the letter said...


Chavez, Washington's most outspoken critic in Latin America, called Obama "the Nobel War Prize" winner on Monday.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BE03120091215
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:19 PM
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1. The facts support Fidel
Why do we have Marines in Honduras? Why are we building and expanding military bases in Colombia?
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:25 PM
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2. Same old tired rhetoric from Fidel...
"Castro, 83, who ran Cuba for nearly 50 years before poor health led him to hand the presidency to his younger brother Raul last year..."

This speaks volumes. 50 years? And then hands the presidency to his brother? And Fidel has cheerleaders here on DU whom defend this?

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:32 PM
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4. The point you purposely missed, is that the Obama Administration is pursuing an imperialist policy
in Latin America.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:45 PM
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21. No evidence for that other than the word of dictators.
Moreover, dictators who have a large vested interest in casting America as a bad guy.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:52 PM
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23. Obama's ambassador to Honduras is a Miami gusano, from CIA's Pedro Pan program
The US is building and expanding bases in Colombia, to strike anywhere in the hemisphere.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:45 AM
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32. his policies on health care, such as it is, are shit too. I am thinking I
may agree with Fidel for once and I remember him staying in New York and killing chickens in his hotel room, the faux dipshit.
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:43 PM
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9. But dontcha know he got 99.99999% of the vote in the
"free and open" elections in Cuba? Better than Saddam even! LOL!

Castro throwin' Obama under the bus I'm sure has a lot of DUers here torn.

I despise all tyrants, regardless of political tilt.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:07 PM
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11. curse that broken clock that is right twice a day
I asked you the time, not if your clock was broken. If it's right, who cares. Oh, that's right, you do.

And improper use of the thrown under the bus metaphor too.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:10 PM
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14. That was our boy Karzai in Afghanistan
Have you heard of him? He is a narco-trafficker that our brave troops are being asked to die for.
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:44 AM
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25. correction, that is Bush's boy
we are just stuck with him. Or would you suggest we take him out because we don't like him?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:45 AM
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26. He is Obama's boy now!
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:04 AM
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28. No he is not, Obama would have never
put this crook in power. Yes he is now stuck with him, due the the last administrations utter failures, but he is not his boy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:37 PM
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17. I wish it were just tired old junk. But it's not.
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 09:39 PM by EFerrari
Last April, on Obama's watch, there was a plot against Morales and the money went right back to State.

Escalation in Colombia, in Panama and Hillary Clinton's joke of a State Department is recognizing the election in Honduras.

If I were Raul Castro, I'd be tired too of having to point out the same old shit, over and over and over again.

And there are pompom girls on DU who defend this?
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Marthian Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:28 AM
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37. I was born there, have family there...
Fidel is right about US imperial designs on Latin America. You are obviously uninformed, but that's typical when discussing things outside the navel of the USA.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:29 PM
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3. Fuck them both.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:36 PM
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5. Chavez has brought free universal health care to his people
Can you make the same claim here about our leaders?
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:41 PM
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7. Nothings "free"....
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 08:45 PM by twitomy
The fact that Cubans have to take the donkey to the "free" health clinic tells you how much it really costs...

Edit,,,Had Castro on the mind, not Chavez. Same principle applies.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:08 PM
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12. become one with the logical fallacy
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:12 PM
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15. Its amazing more people don't emigrate to Cuba to take part in that...
I've always wondered why that is. Would be very easy as long as you're not a US citizen.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:30 AM
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33. I've always wondered about that myself..
we're assured it's a paradise but I don't see boatloads of Haitians trying to get there. On the other hand most any Cuban that find something that will float long enough to get to Florida tries to leave Castro's fiefdom.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:55 AM
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34. how do you know how many Haitians have tried to get to Cuba?
and speaking of Haiti, and Cuba, and injustice and lack of rights and stuff, I wouldn't go reminding people of our little colony called "Haiti," where if they democratically elect the wrong leader, the kindly ole USA goes in there and removes him. We couldn't have the Haitians being independent and NOT being our $2/hr labor force or anything as well as let them control their own land, where we have all our bananas growing.
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:44 AM
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38. its because
the hatians cant afford anything that floats :)
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cowcommander Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:39 PM
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6. Time to throw Castro under the bus too?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:42 PM
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8. No, any asshole that takes a stupid cheap shot at the President
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 08:42 PM by Cha
gets to drive the bus over Obama.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:46 PM
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10. What about those of us under the Obama bus?
The Single Payer advocates, the Stupak/Nelson/Casey abortion HRC language opponents, and the anti-DADT/DOMA/Rick Warren LGBTs.

BTW, it is not a cheap shot by Fidel, but a clean shot at a target. Obama was involved in the coup in Honduras. Obama's own ambassador to Honduras is a Miami gusano.
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Ildem09 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:30 PM
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16. RIght oh!
As someone who worked in Indianapolis and Barron Hills District. I agree with you on being under the bus! I tried to do my part! Andre and Barron both turned out to be stellar folks
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:10 PM
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13. Stop abusing that metaphor.
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:45 PM
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39. I think you need a smilie
that stomps its feet to go with that,,,
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:58 PM
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40. You are so right. Have a link so I can learn how to use smileys?
Shamefully I don't really know how to use em.

Thanks in advance
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:03 AM
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41. Never seen one actually...
SO I guess its my idea...But would be cool to have
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:50 PM
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18. K&R, for the truth....n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:11 PM
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19. A ridiculous accusation...
to suggest that Obama would choose to continue a wrongheaded military intervention in a foreign country's affairs started by a previous administration is just laughable. :sarcasm:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:38 PM
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20. LMAO
Very true, hughee99.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:47 PM
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22. Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch!
STFU, you Cold War relic.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 11:53 PM
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24. Obama is pursuing a neocon foreign policy in Latin America
and we don't need Fidel to tell us that.
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Andronex Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:19 AM
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30. But it seems many will support imperialism and corporatism...
if "their guy" is on top, Fidel is just pointing out the obvious, judging from the reactions here the truth does hurt...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:24 AM
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31. And SOA at Fort Benning is still graduating torturers and assassins
under Obama's watch.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:00 AM
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35. oh, did he say something untrue?
Messing around in other countries' business and killing people there and making them have the "leaders" we want, the economic system we want, and the freedom to take what we want from them--that's okay when it's under Obama's watch I guess. If you think we're not soon going to be openly stomping around down there like we are every other place in the world, you've been asleep. Empire never sleeps, however, and it's on YOUR dime.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:08 AM
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36. Our policy towards Cuba is the "Cold War Relic"
It's just silly that we're still embargoing the place to get money for rich old white Yanks who DESERVED to have their companies nationalized.

We're the only country in the world that thinks something as ugly and pointless as "private property" is a right.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 12:58 AM
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27. Ahh, Fidel.
Dictatorship's poster boy.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:18 AM
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29. The smiles of Morales, Castro, and Chavez, however...
Have no murder squads and political prisons behind them, of course.

Please, look at the US, it's so unjust there that Latin American dictators and socialist corruption should get a free pass!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:35 AM
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42. I trust Obama FAR, far more than I trust Castro
Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro warned on Monday that President Barack Obama's "kindly smile" could not be trusted, saying Washington was plotting against leftist Latin American governments including Venezuela's.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 07:44 AM
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43. Nothing about Obama can be trusted.
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