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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:04 PM
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U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit
Source: CBS

The latest calculation of the National Debt as posted by the Treasury Department has - at least numerically - exceeded the statutory Debt Limit approved by Congress last February as part of the Recovery Act stimulus bill.

The ceiling was set at $12.104 trillion dollars. The latest posting by Treasury shows the National Debt at nearly $12.135 trillion.

A senior Treasury official told CBS News that the department has some "extraordinary accounting tools" it can use to give the government breathing room in the range of $150-billion when the Debt exceeds the Debt Ceiling.

Were it not for those "tools," the U.S. Government would not have the statutory authority to borrow any more money. It might block issuance of Social Security checks and require a shutdown of some parts of the federal government.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/16/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5987341.shtml
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:06 PM
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1. But don't you *think* of touching war funding!
n/t
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:11 PM
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4. Just disgusting, isn't it?
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:06 PM
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2. thanks chimpy and Co.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:07 PM
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3. Plus Obama and company. n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:13 PM
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5. Only for saving car companies and banks that now refuse to pay back...
:(

Chrysler's bombshell (all over LBN a day or two ago) was saddening...
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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7. saddening, maybe, but surprising in any way?
That was throwing money away - all of this shit was. Shouldn't rule #1 in most of these cases be "don't throw good money after bad"?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:16 PM
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6. Just think, we can all be like California soon.
Heck, we can be like Zimbabwe.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:18 PM
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8. We're not there yet, and I had no idea you were enthused at such a notion...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:22 PM
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9. Well, enthused is not the right word, I do expect it.
It is clear that the people running this country are pretty much the same calibre as Mugabe. You know: "Fuck You Jack, I've Got Mine!"
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:27 PM
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19. you sure got that right n/t
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:27 PM
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10. How much is the overlimit fee, or is that an overdraft? n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:46 PM
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11. mmm, just imagine if the debt was on a credit card...
30% APR!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 09:56 PM
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12. Cut the war funding. n/t
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reformist Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 10:29 PM
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13. Has anyone dared to suggest tax increases? n/t
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 10:30 PM by reformist
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:40 AM
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14. We will soon be at a point of geometric progression.
they won't be able to raise the ceiling fast enough to meet the growing debt.

How much is the dollar worth again?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:43 AM
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15. So, how many times under the bushes did we have to raise the debt limit?
Let's all worry about our national debt and forget about helping the middle class and poor recover from the 2nd Republicon Great Depression.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:10 PM
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16. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
If we get out of the goddamned wars, stop handing money to too-big-to-fail banks, tax the people who've got the most money, we can afford things again.

We haven't suddenly run out of resources, we've just let a few people hoard them all.

Time for that to stop.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:22 PM
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17. Even if you think you have zero debt, you still owe over $39K...
if you are an American citizen. It is your share of the national debt.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:29 PM
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18. Wow! I thought $6T was a lot.
What was that like two years ago? I thought Bush was a big spender, but Obama is in a league of his own. Taking good care of his Wall Street buddies, and ramping up the military industrial complex. At least he isn't going to spend another trillion to bail out the insurance industry. Oh wait, yes he can.
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