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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 05:33 PM
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Climate change will cover with water a natural preserve in Cuba in 20 years
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 05:52 PM by IndianaGreen
Source: TeleSUR

Cuba podría perder bajo agua en 20 años reserva natural por cambio climático

TeleSUR _ Hace: 02 horas

Cuba podría perder en 20 años bajo el agua la reserva natural Las Salinas Brito, en la occidental provincia de Matanzas, debido a los efectos del cambio climático, advirtió este martes el ingeniero forestal Frank Medina.

Medina, especialista del Parque Nacional Ciénaga de Zapata -donde están ubicadas- explicó que en la zona se registran temperaturas más altas y los estudios señalan que "en el año 2030 Las Salinas quedarían bajo el agua con la elevación del nivel del mar", según la agencia de información oficial AIN.

"El fenómeno no es irreversible, se requieren acciones urgentes, unir empeños, pero vimos recientemente en Copenhague (sede de la Conferencia sobre cambio climático) que no hay una voluntad política para ello, los más poderosos no se pronunciaron por enfrentar el problema y con migajas no se resuelve", dijo el experto.


My humble translation:

Climate change will cover with water a natural preserve in Cuba in 20 years

TeleSUR _ 02 hours ago


In 20 years Cuba could lose under water the natural preserve of Las Salinas Brito, in the western province of Matanzas, due to the effects of climate change, announced forest engineer Frank Medina on Tuesday.

Median, specialist at the National Park of the Swamp of Zapata (ed: next to Bay of Pigs)- where it is located - explained that higher temperature samplings and analysis indicate that "by the year 2030, Las Salinas will be under water due to rising sea levels," according to AIN Official Information Agency.

"The phenomenon cannot be reversed, it requires urgent actions, united persistence, but we saw recently in Copenhagen (site of the conference on climate change) that there is no political will for it, the most powerful did not come out to face the problem, and with breadcrumbs it cannot be resolved," the expert said.


Read more: http://www.telesurtv.net/noticias/secciones/nota/64342-NN/cuba-podria-perder-bajo-agua-en-20-anos-reserva-natural-por-cambio-climatico/



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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 05:47 PM
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1. How many feet will the water level rise all over the earth in 20 years?
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 05:54 PM by Bobbieo
I think during the last Ice Age some 10,000 years ago, the water level - all over the world - dropped several hundred feet so islands were cropping in all of the oceans and seas. Island hopping is supposedly how the Native Americans got to the New World as well as over the Siberian Land Bridge.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 05:54 PM
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2. Blue Dogs like Mary Landrieu will see a good chunk of her state under the ocean
and the water table in dry areas will become brackish.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:34 PM
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3. I imagine a great deal of Fla will also be under water.
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:55 AM
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14. cheap ocean front land for sale?
I'm wondering what will happen to all the condo owners who are living next to the beach in Florida.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:52 PM
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6. First the ice has to melt and run into the Atlantic. 20 to 200 ft.? I don't know. Then
it will stop the Gulf Stream conveyor and the snow will start. Then the levels will go down and down. By then, we won't really care. I was reading that Europe got "frozen" in just 12 months. I think that was in the last ice age. That part was super fast but the run up might have taken much longer. Fascinating stuff. Study the early and late Pliocene to see how things might be.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:47 PM
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4. Wow... that Pic is Beautiful (nt)
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:49 PM
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5. So what?
If it's that important haul some dirt in and build it up.



20yrs?

This is breaking news?
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:54 PM
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7. Tejas must be proud. n/t
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:08 PM
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8. Insensitive post of the day
from a hidden profiled person, with the Hispanicized version of the name Texas.
You know, my momma always said if you don't have anything nice to say...
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:29 PM
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12. Oh you poor
thing.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:38 AM
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13. I don't need pity from you, thanks...
but daily this board shows me that some "Democrats" are just as bad as Republicans. You are one of them. This is why I don't call myself a Democrat...so I don't have to identify with the likes of you.
But let me guess, you're a Castro-hating Cuban or a self-hating Mexican..right? Okay, buh-bye.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:21 AM
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17. A la izquierda, es posible que "Tejas" es simplemente un idiota normal.
My Spanish is not that good, so what I am trying to say is that it is possible that "Tejas" is simply an ordinary idiot.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:21 AM
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18. Well, I understood it fine...
I tend to understand Spanish written by non-natives better than that written by natives. :)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:35 PM
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19. You do realize that Galveston will also be under the sea
Or do you count yourself among those that think that humanity's activities have nothing to do with climate change, if there is even such a thing?
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:13 AM
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16. It is early yet
Must be a conservative, if s/he (and I bet on the latter) thinks that "more dirt" = "ecosystem preservation"

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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:02 PM
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20. How typical, snarks but no solutions, imagine that!
What's your brilliant idea, haul ice back from Jupiter to replenish the poles? While you're at it, you're going to get China, North Korea, India, etc etc etc etc to cooperate with any climate-solving HOW?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:11 PM
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9. Home to the endemic Zapata Rail
which is the only member of its genus. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapata_Rail
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:21 PM
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10. and to the very fast Cuban crocodile


I have seen videos of this baby running on land. He is fast!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:43 PM
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11. OP link appears broken, here is a new one
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:09 AM
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15. Puleeze. All intelligent people know that AGW is
... is just a vast left-wing conspiracy to deindustrialize the world, and establish the UN's domination over the globe.

The evidence is all around us. You just have to know where to look (oh, and it does help if you stop taking your medication).

One World, One Chance (which we are blowing).

¿No es esto cierto?



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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 07:56 PM
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21. And that's wh y I really really cannot wait to go to Cuba...to see those places
while we can.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:20 PM
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22. We'll be doing a lot of wetlands mitigation over the next 50 years.
Keep in mind that a lot of seasonally dry land right now will become wetland as the sea level rises. If the wetlands exist 12" above sea level and the seas rise five feet, land that is currently six feet above sea level will become the new wetlands.

The question is whether we'll be willing to let that happen. Will we let nature migrate the wetlands uphill as the sea levels rise, or will we go the Netherlands route and destroy the wetlands by diking off the oceans and letting the wetlands vanish under water or dry out?
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