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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 06:09 PM
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Argentina media heirs take DNA test in Dirty War abduction row
Source: Telegraph

Argentina media heirs take DNA test in Dirty War abduction row
The heirs to Argentina's most powerful media empire have been ordered to take DNA tests that could establish if they were the offspring of a forced adoption scheme during the country's darkest era.

By Tom Leonard in New York and Edward Owen in Madrid
Published: 10:11PM GMT 30 Dec 2009



Felipe Noble, left, and Marcela Noble, the adopted children of Ernestina
Herrera de Noble leave a medical center after taking DNA tests Photo: EPA

Human rights campaigners claim the real parents of Marcela and Felipe Noble Herrera, whose mother controls the country's biggest newspaper, were abducted and murdered by the last dictatorship during its "Dirty War" against Left-wing dissidents.

The pair were adopted in 1976 by Ernestina Herrera de Noble, the director of Grupo Clarin, Argentina's dominant media group.

Mrs Herrera de Noble - whose late husband Roberto Noble set up Clarin, Latin America's biggest-selling newspaper - claimed the babies were left abandoned on her doorstep one night.mHowever, she has been challenged by the Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo, a civil rights group trying to locate 500 children of the thousands of dissidents who disappeared during the 1976 to 1983 dictatorship.

Mrs Herrera de Noble, 84, whose husband died in 1969, was childless and the Grandmothers group alleges her two children were taken from political prisoners who gave birth while in custody in secret torture centres.

Children of the so-called "disappeared" were often given to military or police families considered loyal to the government. Some have grown up not even knowing they were adopted until activists or judges announced efforts to obtain their DNA.


Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/6912969/Argentina-media-heirs-take-DNA-test-in-Dirty-War-abduction-row.html



Kissinger approved Argentinian 'dirty war'Declassified US files expose 1970s backing for junta
Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles The Guardian, Saturday 6 December 2003 02.20 GMT

Henry Kissinger gave his approval to the "dirty war" in Argentina in the 1970s in which up to 30,000 people were killed, according to newly declassified US state department documents.
Mr Kissinger, who was America's secretary of state, is shown to have urged the Argentinian military regime to act before the US Congress resumed session, and told it that Washington would not cause it "unnecessary difficulties".

The revelations are likely to further damage Mr Kissinger's reputation. He has already been implicated in war crimes committed during his term in office, notably in connection with the 1973 Chilean coup.

The material, obtained by the Washington-based National Security Archive under the Freedom of Information Act, consists of two memorandums of conversations that took place in October 1976 with the visiting Argentinian foreign minister, Admiral César Augusto Guzzetti. At the time the US Congress, concerned about allegations of widespread human rights abuses, was poised to approve sanctions against the military regime.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/06/argentina.usa
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 06:33 PM
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1. There's an Argentine film about this...
called The Official Story. It's very good.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:14 PM
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5. It is, indeed.
Quite harrowing, too.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 06:34 PM
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2. Man, That's Ugliness. Hope She gets Prosecuted and Asset-Stripped
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 06:52 PM
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3. Prosecuted? Sure. Asset stripped? Not so fast.
If the two are really the biological children of murdered dissidents who were later adopted by this lady, then they two are also the legal heirs of her assets.

I'd rather see the woman prosecuted and her "adopted" children, who are the real victims here, get her money. It's small compensation for never knowing their parents, but it's probably the only compensation they'd see.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:04 PM
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4. henry needs to be brought to light before he goes down as a "repuke god" like ronnie alzheimer...
This needs to be exposed. WHY are we such a controled country when it comes to these crimes within our own government.

This CERTAINLY is not what our founding fathers had in mind. They would be so ashamed of what their blood and sweat has turned into today. I'm ashamed!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:16 PM
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6. Indeed.
Alas, it's hard to imagine that happening. Kissinger gets kid gloves everywhere.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:35 PM
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7. And the damned fools wonder
"why would a terrorist want to hurt me?" We need to come clean about all of the dirt, all, (past and present), committed by our government against ALL people foreign and domestic. Make amends, and start living by the REAL golden rule (not, he who has the gold, rules). Regulate the financial industry and abolish monopolistic conglomerates right after we implement publicly financed elections....Wait, it might be easier to just take the wealth and start all over again...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:35 AM
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8. Argentina's authorities order DNA tests in search for stolen babies of dirty warChildren adopted by
Argentina's authorities order DNA tests in search for stolen babies of dirty warChildren adopted by regime backers checked against bodies of those who 'disappeared' in the 70s and 80s

Rory Carroll, Latin America correspondent and Jeff Farrell in Buenos Aires
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 30 December 2009 20.04 GMT

http://static.guim.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/12/30/1262203302057/Marcela-Noble-Herrera-001.jpg

Marcela Noble Herrera leaves a lab after giving a DNA sample. Her
adoptive mother and family say they have nothing to hide.
Photograph: Rolando Andrade Stracuzzi/AP

In an era of state terror, it was perhaps the most chilling of all crimes: babies stolen from mothers who were condemned to "disappear".

Argentina's military dictatorship wrenched an estimated 500 children from doomed political prisoners and gave them for adoption to regime supporters during the so-called dirty war in the 70s and 80s.

Decades later, the babies are adults and now they – and the rest of Argentina – are finally discovering the truth about their origins. Compelled by a new law, suspected "stolen babies" are taking DNA tests to determine whether their biological parents were murdered.

This week it was the turn of Marcela and Felipe Noble Herrera, the heirs to a powerful media empire, to submit samples. Human rights campaigners allege the pair, who were adopted in 1976, were taken from prisoners who gave birth in clandestine jails.

The investigation is the latest of Argentina's attempts to confront the legacy of the 1976-1983 dictatorship which killed an estimated 30,000 suspected leftists. Trials have recently begun of retired military officers accused of some of the worst atrocities. It is part of a wider reckoning of decades-old human rights abuses across Latin America.

"It is a satisfaction," said Graciela Lois, whose husband, Ricardo, was abducted and last seen in Esma, a Buenos Aires torture centre run by the navy. "It's part of the cycle of understanding."

More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/30/argentina-dna-tests-babies-disappeared
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