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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:36 PM
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New U.S. screening for air travellers from 7 nations - report
Source: yahoo news

All travellers from Nigeria, Yemen, Pakistan, Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria flying into the United States will be patted down and have carry-on luggage searched under new security procedures starting January 4, Politico reported on Sunday.



Read more: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100103/tts-uk-security-airline-usa-ca02f96.html



Will we do this in the U.S. or is it still too politically incorrect and we would be blamed for "profiling"?
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:39 PM
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1. "Will we do this in the U.S." Yes, that's what it says. Coming into the US.
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:28 PM
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8. The 9/11 terrorists were all flying domestically.
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. The 9/11 terrorists flew from Boston, Newark, and Washington, D.C. Would we consider singling out Middle Eastern people traveling domestically? Not just people flying into the U.S.?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:13 AM
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17. Of the 7 national origins 3 are from Western Asia
I'm not clear on your "Would we consider singling out Middle Eastern people traveling domestically?"
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:41 PM
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2. But NOT Saudi Arabia.....
Now what was the nationality of the 911 hijackers? How about that of the Yemeni-connected former GItmo detainees that supposedly masterminded the Christmas Day bomber attempt? Will someone please remind me?
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:01 PM
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4. Also not Iraq, or Afghanistan. I bet all these are added.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 08:03 PM
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10. According to the NYT, Saudi Arabia is also on the list.
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 08:06 PM by nsd
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/us/04webtsa.html?hp

"Citizens of Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria, which are considered “state sponsors of terrorism” as well as citizens from “countries of interest” that consist of Afghanistan, Algeria, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, and Yemen, will also face the special scrutiny, officials said.

For people holding passports from these nations, or taking flights that originated or passed through any of these countries, they will be required to undergo a full-body pat down and have special attention to their carry on bags before they can board a plane to the United States."

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:45 PM
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3. That means that every businessman or elderly relative
from those countries is going to be subjected to search and questioning? That's going to put a nice dent in travel.

It won't, however, stop terrorism.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:03 PM
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5. Exactly... Hell, we don't even do security checks on many of those
who work and service the airports (e.g., concessions, deliveries, etc., etc.)
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:18 PM
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6. Are you sure about that?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:22 PM
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7. NPR did a piece on it some time back...
the folks that deliver food to the planes and many others do not go through routine screening programs.... Those bottled beverages in the concourse are not screened, yet remain the only "acceptable" fluids one can bring on a plane.... Lots of weaknesses if that reporting is correct.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 07:55 PM
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9. I am going to feel soooo much safer next time I fly....
...and have someone see my crotch and pat me down. Jesus...we are a nation of damned fools.
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AverageJoe5 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 09:04 PM
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11. Are the terrorists winning?
If the terrorists intent was to make our government chip away at our freedoms, the terrorists are winning. No more air travel for me, unless I absolutely have to in an emergency.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 09:07 PM
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13. They don't care about our freedoms
Edited on Sun Jan-03-10 09:17 PM by SnakeEyes
Except in that they don't like how we exercise them sometimes in that we can say things they don't like, create art that depict their prophet, and create entertainment and also live/dress/behave in ways that they believe to be immoral and corrupts their people.

What they really care about is killing the infidel.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 12:54 PM
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18. Actually, what they care about
is American policies....like the drones that kill civilians and the theft of resources. The rest of it is just an extra.

Killing the infidel? The US does a lot of that, too. Good goddess on a cracker, woman.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 10:04 PM
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14. I'm hoping that rail travel makes a come back.
If they ever modernize rail travel in this country like they have in Europe I will travel by rail. It is much more relaxing and pleasurable. I've heard that Warren Buffet recently bought up a bunch of rail stock with the express idea of rekindling rail travel. I have great memories of rail travel when I was a kid. I'd love to do it again.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 09:05 PM
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12. New reports say 14 countries
And "our good friends the Saudis" are on the list:

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE6021E020100104
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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:06 PM
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15. All brown skins and Muslims need apply
I can't imagine this law will fly.

I can' think of a more bigoted law...ever.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 11:25 PM
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16. I hope there is a God to help us all if we actually get attacked again. nt
It's not the terrorist that I'm scared of the most, it's the governments reaction.
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