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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:18 PM
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U.S. Senate health bill better than nothing: Hoyer
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - House of Representatives Democratic leader Steny Hoyer said on Tuesday the U.S. Senate's version of healthcare reform was "clearly" better than nothing and the overhaul could pass the U.S. Congress within 15 days.

Hoyer refused to speculate on the fate of healthcare reform if Democrats lose a special U.S. Senate election that could cost them their crucial 60th vote. He said negotiators were still working to merge the two bills.

Sending the Senate bill to the House for approval without changes would be an option for healthcare advocates if Democrat Martha Coakley loses Tuesday's election in Massachusetts.

"We are moving forward, we are not done," Hoyer told reporters when asked about the healthcare bill.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60E2SO20100119



Sanity prevails
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:19 PM
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1. Spoken like a guy who has thrown in the towel
What, the House is now expected to do the bidding of the Senate?

Let's try that in the UK and see how long the Lords bully the Commons...
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:29 PM
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7. They already tried that in Britain -
look at the Lords now . . . largely irrelevant.
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:06 PM
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21. Ya' know, I'm absolutely sick about how this has come down, however would it have been any different
... if the Democrats only had 58 or 59 votes in the Senate all along. Face it, the vote in Minnesota was so close it was a small miracle that Al Franken got elected. And who would have predicted that Arlen Specter was going to change parties.

Not at all happy right now .... just thinkin' out loud.


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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:19 PM
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2. "we are moving forward" with making insurance agencies quasi federal entities
joy. :puke:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:20 PM
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3. Reminds me of that SNL "Lowered Expectations" skit
Better than nothing. That's what we've got for representation in Washington. And that's a sad state of affairs. :(
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:32 PM
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10. That was from MAD TV, not SNL
But yeah, I understand completely. :hi:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:20 PM
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4. "We worked night and day for 6 months to write the best .......
....better than nothing piece of legislation we could."

lol
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:22 PM
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5. Quitting isn't an option.
Getting this passed is important to millions of people.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:23 PM
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6. spoken like someone who plans on tossing coins at the masses
as he drives by in his limo. :grr:
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:30 PM
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8. Sorry Congressman, no it ain't!!!
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TheIdiot Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:30 PM
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9. Will he ever smell the coffee...?
not until we're toast.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:33 PM
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11. Well that's certainly an opinion.
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 02:37 PM by YOY
Not one I agree with but certainly an opinion.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:38 PM
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12. This will be the Dems 2010 campaign theme; "re-elect (add name here)........
.........because I'm better than nothing". This is just so fucking disgusting. People all over the world are laughing at us (more than before).
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bikesein Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:53 PM
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19. Sad but True
NT
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:39 PM
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13. Hoyer: "Well, the music stopped, and this was the only chair left."
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:43 PM
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14.  Not So, Steny
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 02:47 PM by Demeter
This bill puts unimaginable obstacles in place to prevent any rational health care plan ever being implemented. It cements the current informal, arbitrary patchwork arrangement with the glue of federal law. And this is exactly what we don't need or want.

People need to be equal before the law in a democracy. This law makes permanent inequalities. That's known as feudalism, or master and slavery, or other unAmerican arrangements.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:44 PM
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15. The crying and screaming here will be unbearable when they pass the Senate bill.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:46 PM
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16. Which will be nothing, compared to the outcry outside DU.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:48 PM
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17. I'll pop in should it pass, and will join the many DUers who will be celebrating
At last, we'll be starting the long and unlikely process of reform.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:02 PM
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20. And, made much longer and more difficult by this shit bill...........
..........If you think the insurance companies are powerful now, boy wait until this passes.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:52 PM
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18. There's a stunning endorsement. Happy karma, Steny.
The bill's a piece of shit and a gift to the death industry. That's what you get when you back blue dogs over progressives.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:09 PM
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22. "Better than nothing?" Is that all he's got?
Almost anything is better than nothing. I expect more than that from the Dem leadership.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:11 PM
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23. Bullshit
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fitonkpo Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:33 PM
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24. Only good that could come of MA loss would be defeat of HCR.
Face it folks, the current HCR reform bill is just government mandate that we buy the insurance industries shitty products. When the government compels the people to service the corporations...what is this called?....FACISM?!!!

I need Pearl to crank up the organ now.
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