Coakley siting voting iregularities

[rgbecker]

Source: Boston Channel 5 News, right now, on TV

Five reports of pre-marked ballots. Marked for Brown.

No link yet.

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This race is not over. Record turn out down here. Could mean anything.

[flamingdem]

1. It's good to get started on this, it could be close, repukes are cheaters nt

[Bearware]

7. They use the MSM to make is seem close and use massive election fraud to just squeak by.

Whenever there is a very "close" election (particularly with a huge number of votes - like 1 million) the Republicon will often "just squeak by" with a few thousand or so votes. The exit polls will show the Democrat won but the propaganda of the MSM keeps pushing the same theory of a massive conservative turn out at the end. Al Franken found out the hard way. For years he refused to deal with electronic voting machines that had repeatedly been used in massive election fraud since 2002. When it was his turn he just barely won on the recount. As far as I know he still has not uttered a peep about electronic voting. :mad: The reality is the Republicons wait till just after the after the polls close and then use the machines to generate enough votes to "just barely" win. If they did this ahead of time they would probably overdo it and make it easier to catch them. They have been repeatedly caught but the MSM as usual sweeps it under the rug. Stolen elections have consequences.

The clear sign this is going on is a declaration ahead of time that the lead is closing and it will be very close. This is followed by the squeaker win. When precinct data is checked there will be all sorts of irregularities from voting machine districts. For example, huge majorities voting for the Republicon AND for a liberal supreme court justice. Since the MSM already "discredited" exit polls, nothing is done. Exit polls are the preferred method used by the UN and others to check for valid elections.

The only reason we still have voting machines is because the corporations want them for control. The democrats should have been all over this but they have been taking tons of money to shut up about it. Without the voting machines or other methods of election fraud, Republicons would have trouble winning in almost all districts.

Electronic voting may be the most important issue of all including the wars, health care, civil liberties, the economy and climate change. If we do not get rid of the damn things we will be decades down the road and unable to make any real headway on the other issues because we cannot get progressive candidates elected in the numbers the voters want.

[mopinko]

20. ding ding ding ding ding ding ding. the polls

are a very important first step to election theft.

but just an fyi- waiting until the polls close is the way they always did it. in chicago, the last returns were always from "the river wards", where they could stuff the ballot boxes.

[peacetalksforall]

27. You're right. Bush and other Republicans would not have won if it had not been for

the MSM. They were fully consented to a masterful plan for Bush. They told us FL would be the pivot state, they dropped their own polling company which had a reputation for accuracy and told us they dropped it because it wasn't. This opened the doors and in the end they used whatever numbers they needed TO AID AND ABET in the theft. They were the ones who called it. Ditto Ohio.

I repeat the Republicans cannot steal votes without using the networks and major papers. They need the networks and papers for the sizzle after they grilled the machines, the numbers, the blocks and obsturctions to accurate ballots, announcements, answers about where and when, including roadblocks facilitated by the sheriffs. They worked it all out and the networks and papers carried it off.

We'll get the admissions one of these days. We already have some because of what has been learned about the machines through analysis and testing and folding.

[AlbertCat]

43. Bush and other Republicans would not have APPEARED to have won if it had not been for

[peacetalksforall]

74. You're right. And thanks for understanding my unedited message. Will do better in word selection

and grammar. |:o))

[newtothegame]

46. Unfortunately, I think we've reached a point where no matter who wins,

the other side will have a reason they believe they were cheated. For. The. Rest. Of. All. Eternity. We've literally seen this every single year since 2000.

[Kalifornia.Kid]

21. "CITING"

...damn !

[timtom]

22. Better that you said it.

[Robb]

32. Yes.

Unless he's placing them somewhere.

[YvonneCa]

52. ...

:7 Good one!

[MrsMatt]

44. That's the first thing that came to mind

when I saw the OP.

WHY can't people use the correct words? Drives me crazy.

[Mira]

66. They mostly do,

but I bet the poster got excited. It's an emotional night.
Peace!

[YvonneCa]

50. Thank you.That and 'iregularities' hurt my...

...eyes. :7 IRREGULARITIES...2 R's. Damn.

[PurpleChez]

51. Not as bad as making plurals with apostrophes.

[wordpix]

63. how about that "Joe Kennedy" (I) with his robo-calls? Not Joe, RFK's son

but some interloper trying to take Coakley votes away.

[louis4louis]

68. MA Sec. of State quick to say pre-casted ballots were destroyed

When are we going to learn???? Same old cheating by Diebold again and again. Why was the MA sec of state so quick to deny the fact that there are 5 instances of voter fraud without any intention of investigating the matter? Instead he said the irregularities have been destroyed. WTF, he must be a bribed cover up spy in there. Its old school Republican election rigging machine all over again. from 2000, to 2004 and they tried it unsuccessfully in 2008 and now its back in 2010. Let ALL the votes be hand counted! I supposed Dems should have known that by now in this election. Are they so dumb to trust Diebold Again??

[santamargarita]

2. Gop Scum can't win elections just steal elections

We must fight these goddamn election stealing fucks to the last vote!

[Pharaoh]

70. But are'nt the dems just

corporate team B ?

I mean, what happened to change and hope?

[Doctor_J]

3. that 20% poll drop and the diebold machines should have been red flags

then yesterday MSRNC declared Brown the winner.

Oh, well, nothing will be done about it

[rhett o rick]

9. Why are they using Diebold machines? nt

[shawcomm]

14. Free and fair elections are so important

to our founding principles that I don't know how any election board would use them. We should have government designed and built voting machines, not corporate raider ones. That would better ensure a non-partisan tally. It's a pure conflict of interest to allow companies to supply voting machines when those same companies stand to benefit from certain political parties being elected.

[Tanelorn]

37. Bring back the pencil on a string

[slackmaster]

60. Ask William Francis Galvin

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/

[Capn Sunshine]

4. Link

here

[rgbecker]

10. Thanks Capn, Been trying to get my old laptop to play a flash of the TV's Page.

[Dinger]

5. Good, Shine The Light And Expose The Scum K & R

[Ian David]

6. Ballot Tampering Questioned In Senate Race

Ballot Tampering Questioned In Senate Race
Coakley Campaign Says Voters Given Pre-Marked Ballots

BOSTON -- Democrat Martha Coakley's campaign raised issues of ballot tampering in at least three jurisdictions and urged Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin to further look into the matter as millions of Bay State residents went to the polls to elect a successor to Sen. Edward Kennedy.

<snip>

"We have received reports of five ballots -- spanning three jurisdictions," Elias said.

Elias said the voters caught the errors and brought the ballots to back to the poll workers.

"This is obviously a serious violation, and our legal team is taking immediate steps to protect the integrity of this election," campaign manager Kevin Conroy said. "We do not yet know why this is happening, but you and everyone you know needs to be aware of the situation so that you can carefully inspect your ballot."

More:
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/22276719/detail.html

[Ian David]

8. Someone put the "Scan these when nobody is looking" ballots in the wrong pile. n/t

[rgbecker]

12. LOL!!!

[Submariner]

15. I would not put it past the Teabaggers to infiltrate the polling

station as volunteer poll station members and pull a stunt like that.

[Mithreal]

67. Absolutely. During 2008, I volunteered watching the ballot handling and counts locally

The Republican County chairman came in the room and was greeting the workers by name and chatting them up, placing his hands on them. I saw plenty of suspicious behavior. He talked with a couple friends, other volunteer observers, and went on and on how Dems were pissing vinegar and all sorts of assclown comments about Obama in the very room ballots were being opened, sorted, and duplicated. I walked beside the three and joined them listening to everything and acting like I was comfortable around them, then let him have it and asked him to step outside with me. He got all red in the face and freaked when I called him on his inappropriate behavior, like your average coward he would not step outside but I shut him up. The people I reported a variety of issues to, on the two days I was there did not satisfy with regard to my concerns although they did attempt to lessen my worries. I reported to our county chairperson the problems who told me I had done the right thing but I didn't expect anything to be done.

Republicans volunteers outnumbered Dem volunteers as many as 3 to 1 when I was there and this was during the Obama election when Dems were maximumly energized. I did meet an older gentleman who was a retired lawyer and Republican and we had a most excellent time talking. Not all R's are our enemies.

Anyway, just a plug for more people of good will to volunteer election day and during the actual counting.

[Tesha]

24. In a properly-organized polling place, it would require at least two corrupt officials...

...to successfully pull-off that scheme.

At the end of the day, the number of ballots in the ballot box must
match the number of voters who were checked-in plus the number
of absentee ballots processed.

So you would need to corrupt both the person watching the ballot
box and at least one person supervising the checklist (so that they
could check-off non-voting names to account for the extra ballots).
Now, you might say that people take breaks, go to the bathroom,
and such, so the "fill-in" person could be a single corrupt official
doing several different jobs at different times, but it still would call
for some tricky coordination. Woe to the election official who has
John Q. Smith turn up and find *HIS* name has already been
"checked-off"!

Plus, sensible party officials station "poll watchers" at every polling
station. Their main job is to watch check-ins and feed that data back
to the GOTV gang, but their secondary job is to observe that no
shenanigans take place, whether that's denying qualified voters
the right to vote or outright fraud. Of course, the Democrats aren't
necessarily sensible and can be far too trusting.

How about "pre-stuffed" ballots? I don't know about Mass, but here
in NH, a designee from each party must be there before opening to
verify that a) the ballot box is empty and b) the counters on the
Optiscan machine read zero.

Closing time is another time when fraud could be more-easily
committed as there are fewer citizens around, but again, the law
allows *ANYONE* to stay and observe the closing, so sensible
folks would do so. That's also the way that the party officials get
the fastest "returns" data, hot from the just-closed polling place.

I've performed all of the tasks that I've mentioned on behalf of
the NH Democratic Party.

Properly managed, paper ballots fed through the Optiscan system
are pretty reliable.

It will be very interesting to see what naïve fraud was being
attempted here.

Tesha

[Kablooie]

11. Good god. All marked for Brown. And if they caught 5 there must have been many more.

[8 track mind]

13. Prosecute those GOP mother fuckers n/t

[emlev]

16. "Orange Alert" for integrity of election was called by election integrity experts yesterday

See the press release from Monday:
Election Experts Issue 'Orange Alert' For Massachusetts Special Election

And the one from early this a.m.:

Orange Alert Must Galvanize (Secretary of State) Galvin, Election Watchdogs Say

[NecklyTyler]

17. Take the election results to court! Tie it up for months

All the while we have Paul Kirk, a Democrat, sitting in the Senate seat.

Bring it, we will still win health care

[minnesota_liberal]

48. and Threaten WW3

... if the tea-baggers ry to seat their guy.

[emlev]

18. BRAD BLOG calls on candidates not to concede

Echoing the second of the press releases in my post above:

Rocket Science and Diebold Mysteries Rather Than Simple, Observable Democracy in MA Senate Race
Election experts file public records requests; Pre-marked ballots reported in two towns...>

Brad adds:

Might I also recommend, request that all you folks on Twitter (we can be followed here), Retweet the following as far and as loud as you can:
TheBradBlog Please RT to candidates in MA Senate race! "DO NOT CONCEDE UNTIL ALL VOTES ARE ACTUALLY *COUNTED* BY HUMAN BEINGS!" http://tr.im/KTCQ

[KittyWampus]

19. Franken's lawyer during Minnesota election was there at presser

Worth noting: One of the Coakley attorneys at the presser was Marc Elias, counsel for Sen. Al Franken during the protracted Minnesota election contest last year.

[Hekate]

23. Well, well, well. Can it be that Dems are learning at LONG last?

I hope to gods so.

Hekate

[emlev]

25. This pre-marking ballots was noted in 2004 in Ohio as well

If a voter doesn't notice, and votes for the same candidate, the vote is counted as cast.
If the voter votes for a different candidate, the ballot shows two votes and is not counted.

[Tesha]

28. Just FYI, Optiscan machines can be programmed to reject "overvotes".

I don't know if the machines in this election were so programmed.

Tesha

[emlev]

34. I believe that's actually a requirement, now that you mention it.

Though whether the machines successfully do this and whether pollworkers allow voters to fill out another ballot -- which of course they'd be required to allow but might not -- is another question.

[MorningGlow]

26. Shocker.

:sarcasm:

[emlev]

29. This pre-marking ballots was noted in 2004 in Ohio as well

If a voter doesn't notice, and votes for the same candidate, the vote is counted as cast.
If the voter votes for a different candidate, the ballot shows two votes and is not counted.

[flamingdem]

31. These pre-marked ballots were most likely distributed in DEM strongholds? nt

[scytherius]

30. Oh puhleeze. Get a grip.

If she loses, it's her fault and the Dems fault and Obama's fault 100%. The reasons are numerous.

And Dem legislatures keep approving Diebold machines. If its a fix, has it yet occurred to everyone that BOTH sides are in on it? Why would you trust the Dems over the GOP? Both are horrible.

So, it wasn't stolen, the Dems screwed it. And, hopefully, they get hammered in 2010 and everyone keeps getting hammered until someone, somehow, wakes up and stops negotiating with Corporate America and fights for people.

The American "empire" is just about dead.

[MorningGlow]

39. You have a lot to learn

Welcome to DU.

[Dinger]

64. Well At Least You Have A Profile

Gotta give you some credit.

[jacksondem]

33. Secretary of State says there is nothing to it

http://news.aol.com/article/mass-secretary-of-state-dismissed-vote/864113?cid=3272

Isn't he a Democrat?

[Moosepoop]

40. Yes, but the Sec of State was saying that it was only 2 ballots.

He gave that proclamation about four hours ago. Since then, at least 3 more of them have been found.
Waiting to see what he says about the latest three, and also waiting to see how many (if any) more turn up.

Edited to fix subject line.

[DeadEyeDyck]

56. yeah, I saw that too

I think it is a dead issue when the SOS is not onboard.

[4dsc]

35. Why doesn't someone grab one of those ballots as evidence. nt

[Tesha]

36. Just FYI: Taking a ballot is almost-certainly a crime.

That doesn't mean one shouldn't hold on to such a ballot the
moment one is handed it and refuse to return it until the
police, the press, and the Democratic attorney appear on
the scene.

Tesha

[emlev]

38. Coakley campaign asking voters to report probs at 617-351-6866 n/t

[Guilded Lilly]

41. Is anyone surprised at all?

No.

Will it mean anything?
No

Will an investigation of any kind go anywhere?
No

Will anything ever be done about it?
No

Is this now the status quo and norm of any election...and a sure fire political tool from eight years passed and into the future?
yes.

[RoccoR5955]

42. I hope they get to the bottom of this... K & R n/t

[Odin2005]

45. Damnit, not again!

:grr:

[Jefferson23]

47. CNN has Brown at 52%, Coakley at 47%, no declared winner yet.

[DeadEyeDyck]

58. 57% percent reporting

unless some very big blue counties are still out there, it is toast.

[rayofreason]

62. She's toast.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/index.html

[Jefferson23]

65. This looks very bad, I thought she would make it through, damn.

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[Dinger]

61. ALERT.

freeper fuck

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[tammywammy]

54. I don't know who this "OAKLEY" is, but if what you say is true then

I want that bastard to lose too!


:eyes:

[rayofreason]

57. That's Marcia Oakley. n/t

[tammywammy]

59. She's going down!

All the way to downtown.

[FarLeftFist]

55. It's COAKLEY not OAKLEY, and you should vent your frustrations somewhere else....

Other than a Democratic blog. F**kin horrible bro.

[glitch]

69. I am actually hopeful that some one with government authority will finally investigate this shit.

Perhaps they've finally gotten so cocky at stolen elections going relatively unnoticed that they would actually attempt to rig an election against a state's attorney.

I know I know, I shouldn't be this hopeful, I could lose all my many cynic/paranoid merit badges.

[quiller4]

71. Since she has conceded I'd say its over.

[DissedByBush]

72. Let's face the facts

She got complacent. She thought it was in the bag as a traditionally Democrat seat, especially when replacing Kennedy.

Along comes a Republican with enough energy and charisma to take it.

I think far too many Democrats got complacent after the sweep of last election.

Think of this in a positive way.

It is a lesson. A wake-up call.

It will save us in 2010.

[RBInMaine]

73. Coakley should be citing how she and her team ran such a SHITTY campaign.

It was a god damn embarassment to the party. She could have won. But she was flat, out of touch, had no narrative, didn't define herself, didn't define the opponent, didn't go to events, gaffed incessantly...Jesus, someone should flog that lady and her shitty team. Corzine, Deeds, and now Coakley. Three SHITTY candidates up, three SHITTY candidates down, and they DESERVED it. As Pete Seeger said, when will they ever learn?

[live love laugh]

75. Al Gore all over again...but Brown "won"--Coakley should just shut up

Cuz Dems suck--even the Dems agree on that


:sarcasm:

[eridani]

76. What are the chances of getting a madatory audit here? n/t

[cali]

77. none. he won by over a hundred thousand votes

roughly the same percentage margin as Obama in 2008. Brown will be sworn in within the couple of days. Over is over.

[Xenotime]

78. How come she conceded before this issue was resolved.

[KansDem]

79. Kick for the next shift...(nt)