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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:36 AM
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Runaway Ohio girl to remain free of Muslim parents
Source: ap

COLUMBUS, Ohio – A runaway teenage girl from Ohio who converted from Islam to Christianity has reached a court settlement that allows her to remain free of her Muslim parents.

The agreement Tuesday says that 17-year-old Rifqa Bary will stay in a foster home under state custody in Columbus until she turns 18 in August. After that, she'll be an adult and free to live where she chooses.
...
Bary ran away to Florida last summer, saying she feared her father would harm or kill her for leaving Islam.

Her father denied the claim, and a law enforcement investigation found no credible threats to the girl.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100120/ap_on_re_us/us_runaway_convert
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:42 AM
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1. And if a 17-year-old girl converted to islam from christianity???
Series-ly, she's 17, and old enough, even if the law doesnt' give her adulthood for a few more months. That said, the article is way too short to really get an idea as to what's going on.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:07 PM
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4. Honor Killing is a muslim cultural trait, not a Christian one.
No other culture/religion has the history of killing their daughters, only islam.
The argument is moot.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:06 PM
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9. Because good Christians would never do anything so horrific
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:10 PM
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10. Seriously. Maybe not honor killing, but plenty of beatings.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:53 PM
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14. you misunderstand the meaning of "moot". and "honor killing" not a feature of "islam" per se,
& yes, other cultures/religions, including christianity, have a history of killing their daughters.

so pretty much fail on every point in your bigoted little post.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:10 PM
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17. The article is about allowing that girl to remain free from her Muslim parents.
It's not about anything Christians have done. If you want to discuss that topic, feel free to start another thread about that. But that's not what this thread is about.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:20 PM
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18. I'm talking about the poster's assertions, & will continue to as I please.
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 03:20 PM by Hannah Bell
"Honor killing" isn't specific to islam, or to arabs.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:27 PM
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25. Moot this:
"China's strict limits on births have led couples to the most heinous of crimes: the murder of their own infant daughters. G. William Skinner of U.C. Davis and Chinese researcher Yuan Jianhua recently presented statistical evidence that suggests the scale of female infanticide has reached the proportions of an epidemic. Speaking at the annual meeting of the Association for Asian Studies in March, they showed that close to 800,000 baby girls were abandoned or killed in a single region from 1971-80 alone. Given that these numbers represent only one of a dozen regions in China and only one decade out of the past three, the number of little girls missing and presumed dead throughout the length and breadth of China over the past generation must number well over ten million."

http://www.pop.org/20000607468/the-ordeal-of-chinese-mothers-continues-new-evidence-of-massive-female-infanticide
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:23 PM
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11. This story teaches stereotypes. Have you learned your stereotypes today?
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 01:33 PM by crikkett
Older children can be emancipated from their parents. It happens all the time, across the entire spectrum of the American populace.

The effect of this story is to remind readers of two stereotypes: that Muslims abuse their women, and that Islam threatens people who abandon the religion with death.

Because it's easier to convince people to waste our blood and money waging endless war against monsters who kill their own families.

I wonder what's really happening out there, that we need to be distracted from.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:42 PM
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13. ...
:thumbsup:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:06 PM
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15. +100. one of the things we need to be distracted from is the fact that *we're* killing
thousands upon thousands in iraq, afghanistan, africa, & elsewhere.

stupid fools who eat this stuff up like candy.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:03 PM
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20. No Christian sect I know of beleive in killing apostates.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:47 AM
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2. Amen!
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 11:47 AM by Countdown_3_2_1
I prayed all along she would remain free from her parents.
Honor killing is far to prevalent for me to trust her father-even in the US.
Freedom MUST be protected-(in this case freedom FROM religion)
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:58 AM
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3. Good
If she feared her parents, that's good enough for me.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:09 PM
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5. Wonder how many prissy types will cry that this shows racist hostility toward Islam...
and that the girl should be returned so as to show respect for Islam.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:34 PM
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12. You've got one person saying that the article TEACHES hostility toward Islam.
:hi:
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:06 AM
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22. Gotta love these hippies.
:hi:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:07 PM
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16. this girl is just slightly short of her birthday. the main reason there's any "story"
at all is the anti-islam propaganda.

which you eat up like candy. yum, yum!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:04 PM
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21. Bullshit.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:20 AM
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23. I happen to like anti-Islam propaganda!
I'm an atheist from the school of thought that religion is not just mistaken, but a blight on humanity. So for me, there's no such thing as too many news stories casting this or that religion in a bad light, as long as the stories are accurate.

As for the girl, I'm glad she's happier and feels safer now, though it seems odd to me she'd leave one religion only to adopt another. She'd be better off with none, but hey, it's a free country.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:18 PM
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24. I think you're not seeing the forest for the trees.
I don't really care why you enjoy religion-bashing but if you're an anarchist you should understand the program at work here.

If you're an anarchist you don't like wars, especially wars that impoverish you and your children. This story was intended to perpetuate war. You should see the mechanism of social engineering here (and as an anarchist you should certainly be against social engineering).

and thank you, for not calling me a priss up above. I would have to get all nonviolent on you.
:hippie:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:24 PM
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6. In her situation, if she had real reason to fear then she will
have real reason to continue to fear. Whatever the religion, honor killings are the most despicable crime.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:33 PM
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7. The next step would be to change her name while she's still a minor
If she is truly in fear for her life, then she needs to do things to keep them from finding her in the future, when she's no longer in the custody of the state.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:39 PM
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8. No kidding. We had an "honor killing" in AZ a few months ago:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:02 PM
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19. Good.
Muslims don't look to kindly on apostates.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:30 PM
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26. It reminded me of this case:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/011008dnmetteenskilled.7ba7cc6.html

I hope she can remain safe and unharmed by her father.

And, btw, I would wish this upon anyone of any religion.

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