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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:05 PM
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Fox Most Trusted Name In News: Public Policy Polling
Source: Huffington Post

Our newest survey looking at perceptions of ABC News, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC News finds Fox as the only one that more people say they trust than distrust. 49% say they trust it to 37% who do not.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/27/fox-most-trusted-name-in-_n_438296.html
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:18 PM
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1. And that's why we are where we are today.
Pathetic.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:19 PM
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2. Fox: We Distort, You Repeat
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tsstranger Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:36 PM
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27. FAUX
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 03:38 PM by tsstranger
FAUX NotNews: We Decieve, You Believe.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:48 PM
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28. corporate Fascist funded phony propaganda
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:25 PM
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3. Sad. eom
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:26 PM
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4. Ignorance is bliss eom
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:28 PM
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5. The poll should be called "Older White America Trusts Faux"
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 12:29 PM by Tempest
Read the full report and the title of this paper should be "Older White America will only trust Fox." Look at the cross-tabs and you will see a dramatic pattern between age and race for each of the networks. Also, the sample over represents whites and those who are 45 and over. According to 2008 census estimates, whites account for 66% of the population, but 74% of this sample. Ages 45 and over account for 52% of the voting age population, but 63% of this sample.

And did you notice PBS wasn't included? Neither was The Daily Show.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:56 PM
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8. Nice analysis. n/t
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:01 PM
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9. Not oversampled
They are going for the people who get their news from these networks. That is the sample.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:28 PM
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13. Wrong
In order for a poll to be valid it has to be in line with the demographics of the country in which it is being conducted.

Older whites are oversampled in this poll. They could have very easily increased the sampling for minorities and women and still come out with a sampling size in line with what they ended with (cable news viewers).
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:18 PM
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18. No you don't sample by demographics
You sample by participants. If you sampled by demographics in election polling for example you would get a false result because some demographic groups vote in higher percent that others. This was a good sample even if you don't like the result.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:52 AM
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37. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 12:55 AM by guruoo


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Tanelorn Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:41 PM
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25. Unfortunately as much as we would like it the Daily Show is not a news broadcaster
Wait a minute neither is Fox....
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yava Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 08:29 PM
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34. Tempest, sadly, your corrections do not change the conclusion
I think.
Also, its a question of who is "white".
Many mixed families, Armenians, Jews, Georgians, Argentinians, Greeks, Southern Italians, southern Spanish etc etc consider themselves "White" but they are not anglo-saxon.
So how are these guys factored in?
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:02 PM
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36. Sure they do...
If you poll an unrepresentative sample, the results are worthless.

All this poll "proves" is that older whites who identify themselves as conservative trust everything Faux tells them, and are convinced that every word on the other networks is a liberal lie. Everyone else in the poll (i.e. the majority), not so much.

The flaw in the way this poll is conducted is that, essentially, it confuses "quantity of belief" with "intensity of belief."

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:31 PM
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6. Americans Most Gullible Fools In World: Public Policy Polling nt
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:45 PM
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7. Ahhh...yes, and there you have it...
More people will believe and follow the false prophet....?
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:06 PM
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10. The dumbing down of America
America has lost its way.Is this the beginning of the end of our so called democracy,the rich have taken charge of all of our lives?.
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:25 PM
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11. Where did they take the poll, a lunatic asylum?
I find that very hard to believe!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:28 PM
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12. Public Policy Polling also found that 10% of Americans don't believe Hawaii is a state...
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
A deeper look at the birthers

After we conducted polls over the last couple of weeks finding significant numbers of 'birthers' in North Carolina and Virginia, we decided to take the question national but also drum down more specifically on where exactly the people who think Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States do think he's from.

The answer is that 62% of Americans think Obama was born here, while 24% think he was not and 14% are unsure.

10% of the country thinks that he was born in Indonesia, 7% think he was born in Kenya, and 1% think he was born in the Philippines.

That leaves 20%, which includes at least some people who correctly believe that Obama was born in Hawaii, but who don't consider Hawaii to be part of the United States. You read that right- 6% of poll respondents think that Hawaii is not part of the country and 4% are unsure.

It's hard to say what the rest of that 20% thinks. We did ask them if they thought Obama was born in France and while less than half a percent of respondents did, two thirds of that remaining 20% said they 'weren't sure' whether Obama was a Frenchman.

So who are the birthers?

-62% are Republicans, 20% are Democrats, and 18% are independents
-57% are conservatives, 33% are moderates, and 9% are liberals
-56% are men, 44% are women
-86% are white, 7% are Hispanic, 4% are black, and 3% are other races

Fascinating stuff.


http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/08/deeper-look-at-birthers.html

Also, 54% of Americans believe government should stay out of Medicare (or are "not sure"):

New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to ‘stay out of Medicare.’
As ThinkProgress has noted before, conservatives have frequently obscured the fact that Medicare is a government-run single-payer program. Constituents appearing at health care town halls have even demanded that their members of Congress keep their “government hands off of Medicare.” Now, a new Public Policy Polling poll finds that millions of Americans do not realize that the federal government runs Medicare:

One poll question indicative of how difficult it is to gain public understanding on a complicated issue asked if respondents thought the government should ‘stay out of Medicare,’ something inherently impossible. 39% said yes.

The poll also shows that an additional 15% of respondents were “not sure” if the government should be involved in Medicare
. Only 46% of respondents disagreed with the proposition that the government should stay out of the government-run program.


http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/19/americans-poll-out-medicare/

I'm beyond believing this is just a little "ignorance." Hell, we're all ignorant of something. But ignorance can be overcome by reviewing the facts and applying logic. These "Americans" refuse to do that. You can't have a democracy with citizens this "ignorant."

I no longer call them "ignorant." I now believe they are just fucking stupid.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:48 PM
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14. I can't believe that even The Huffington Post is repriting this Politico poll
which sampled just over 1,000 people! If they were all from the rural South I guess the majority would still believe it. :eyes:
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:01 PM
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15. You have to be kidding: their website is a BLOGSPOT!
if they were a creditable organization they would at least have their own url!

but they are using "Blogger"'s free hosting. I think this smells like bullshit!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:11 PM
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16. True or not.....
My gut instincts are to laugh or cry. I'd rather laugh. I live on a private drive with 8 residences. I'd bet anything that our home and one other are the only ones where Faux Gnues isn't ever turned to.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:16 PM
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17. Drink up!!! We're fucked!!
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:19 PM
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19. This is very true. nt
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:35 PM
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22. I said it in sarcasm, but I am really sad/pissed hearing it.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:19 PM
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20. Who Said Americans are Stooopid ?
:banghead:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:28 PM
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21. The difference between the USSR and the USSA
Soviet peasants knew that TASS was propaganda.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:39 PM
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23. We're doomed. n/t
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:39 PM
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24. I guess we deserve to crash & burn as a nation if we are this dumb
and gullible!
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:03 PM
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26. Faux wins a judgement stating that they can lie
All of the totally clueless must think Foley, Craig are democrats because that's what faux showed them. No, I don't have faith anymore in my fellow Americans. God, the biggest propaganda network in the US, and that's saying a lot; and the witless trusts them. No wonder the rest of the world thinks that a majority of americans must be totally dumbed down.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:52 PM
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29. Key word being "perceptions". FAUX viewers think they are getting the truth
Most people have some degree of skepticism when it comes to any news source. FOX viewers are in another category all together. It is info-tainment for its target demographic, not news.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 04:02 PM
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30. Faux: Our Viewers Play Volleyball with the Brain they Share!
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 04:28 PM
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31. What's really scary, is that NEWS is so incompetently done everywhere that FOX isn't obviously bad.
I would be hard pressed to judge between any of the US networks, because I switch off within 10 minutes due to idiot overload every time I try to watch. When did "I think" replace the "who what when where and why" of journalism?
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 04:36 PM
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32. 0% of DUers believe this poll is worth a shit.
(in my dreams)
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 04:47 PM
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33. With respect, I'd like to see the methodology of that poll, before I just run with it.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:58 PM
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35. If you look at the internals, all this tells you is that...
...die-hard conservatives (36% of polled group) completely trust Faux and completely distrust everyone else, while moderates (47%) and liberals (17%) have mixed feelings about all five news sources (Faux, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC) -- but rank Faux last of all.

(BTW, I could comment about the ideological "balance" of the polled group as well -- roughly twice as many self-identified conservatives as liberals. Garbage in, garbage out.)

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AKing Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 10:39 AM
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38. Not So Fast On The Fox-As-Most-Trusted Poll
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 10:40 AM by AKing
Earlier today, Public Policy Polling released a survey that showed Fox blowing away the competition--including the long-established networks of ABC, CBS, and NBC--as the most trusted news network. PPP does automated polling, a methodology which has its advocates and defenders in the polling community, but ABC's respected polling guru Gary Langer sticks up for his network (or, rather, throws the PPP poll into question) by citing some inconsistencies in the PPP sampling, such as: 10 percent more self-identified Republicans than ABC has found is consistent with voter ID levels, 11 percent fewer self-identified liberals than ABC has found to exist among the population, four percent fewer women, and six percent fewer people who voted for Obama in 2008 than actually voted for him.
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2010/01/not_so_fast_on_the_fox-as-most-trusted_poll.php
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:21 PM
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39. Also covered by UK Guardian
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atmame77 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 01:39 PM
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40. FOX NEWS: WHERE THE TRUTH DIES!
No way do I trust Fox news. It's nothing but a Propaganda arm of the GOP.
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