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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 06:03 AM
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Traffickers targeting Haiti’s children, human organs, PM says
Source: CNN

By Tom Evans, CNN
January 28, 2010 -- Updated 0321 GMT

(CNN) -- Trafficking of children and human organs is occurring in the aftermath of the earthquake that devastated parts of Haiti, killed more than 150,000 people, and left many children orphans, Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive said Wednesday.

"There is organ trafficking for children and other persons also, because they need all types of organs," Bellerive said in an exclusive interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour.

He did not give specifics, but asked by Amanpour if there is trafficking of children, Bellerive said, "The reports I received say yes."

Haiti is trying to locate displaced children and register them so they can either be reunited with other family members or put up for adoption, Bellerive said.

But, he said, illegal child trafficking is "one of the biggest problems that we have."

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/27/haiti.earthquake.orphans/
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 06:17 AM
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1. Just when you thought that nobody could ever be more EVIL than
the nazis were, you read about this...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 07:00 AM
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2. Might help
if the US troops there controlled all movement in and out of the country including luxury cruise liners.

Anything to help prevent the subject of the OP persisting.
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 07:09 AM
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3. must be at a discount
With the aids rate in haiti, eeven amongst children, organ harvesting would be real hit or miss, I am not sure how much stock I would put into this one!!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 07:11 AM
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4. More Likely the Depravity Crowd Is Cashing In
slavery is like a drug, I suspect, to those who use it.
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 07:57 AM
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5. Something doesn't ring true here.
my instincts are saying this is a phoney....or at least greatly exaggerated to generate more donations or some other reason that isnt clear yet.
Not saying such things don't happen...just sceptical of this story now is all.
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420inTN Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 08:45 AM
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6. Monsters. n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 09:37 AM
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7. Rethuglikkkans crave the flesh of black children
They eat it as often as they can.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 10:47 AM
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8. The rumors of organ harvesting are largely, if not totally, "urban legends"
many of which have been floating around central and south america for a few years now.

But, practically speaking, it would be near impossible.

Tissue death begins just a few minutes after the heart stops and breathing ceases. To harvest any organ, like a heart or kidney, it would have to be removed by a skilled surgeon within minutes, it then would have to be placed in a specially chilled container to prevent further tissue damage (a cooler filled with ice won't do), and flown to where it is needed within hours, or at most, a day. Even if one did fly in a "harvesting team", and they prayed upon the injured and/or dying that still fill the tent hospitals in Port-au-Prince, it's highly unlikely that any organs obtained would be transported to facility for transplant (again, a modern hospital, not more than a few hours away, with a organ recipient who is waiting and prepped for a cross-matched donor, and a surgical team willing to skirt any number of laws).

Sex trafficking, OTOH, is very likely. Quite possibly even by those who show up to "take the orphans out of harms way" and affiliated with reputable organizations. Someone needs to follow up on every child removed from Haiti, and do so for many months to come.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:13 AM
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10. Why do you dismiss it?
I mean there is the urban legand about the guy partying hard and waking up in a bathtub of ice only to discover an organ is missing.

However, just like sex trafficking, the children can be removed from Haiti and transported to a blackmarket doctor. There have been many documented cases of China harvesting organs from death row inmates to meet the demand for organs.

I would not dismiss this so freely.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:30 PM
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13. It's possible
but again, it wouldn't be that easy to do.

The "urban legend" that I was talking about were the stories circulating about the organ hunters in Brazil. Death squads that supposedly hunted people (tourists, children in the poorer areas, etc) for their organs. Turns out, it was all BS. Mostly started by the promotion of a movie.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/dec/04/film.brazil

The reason it wouldn't be that easy is that even if you kidnap an orphan child, you still have to match a donor to a person willing to pay big $$ to the black market. And it's more complex that a simple blood type. Genetically speaking, organ donors from Haiti are likely not to be a close match to, say, a Chinese, Russian, or European client.

Again, it's possible. It's just not that likely.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:57 PM
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14. I agree with you.
Personally, I think it is nothing more than fear-mongering and in some cases bigotry run amok (see below). As for the child exploitation, that seems more likely, but at this point, it is likely very difficult. However, as time progresses it will become much easier to kidnap and exploit children.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 10:47 AM
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9. darn it....this is just the thought I had from the get go...
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 10:58 AM by BunkerHill24
I remained skeptic out of no where sponsors; the outpouring Haitian orphan sponsors...and the haste, the haste this was done without ever questioning these so called sponsored-parents. By Gawd, what we don't know yet is what scares me.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 11:54 AM
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11. Actual harvesting would probably be done at another location...
within easy fishing boat reach. Live kids could be removed by boat and operated on at other sites.

There would be few sterile sites on Haiti that could be used for this, much less air traffic to get the organs out of the country.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:23 PM
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12. the Israelis were already accused of harvesting organs in Haiti
but of course, this was brushed off in Israel with the old "blood libel" accusation.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=116613§ionid=351020706
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:01 AM
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16. It is blood libel.
You believe this shit?
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:11 AM
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15. he's attempting to divert attention
from the reality of haiti's situation. it's the ravings of a madman who for years presided over the hellhole which is haiti. i feel absurd even dignifying this idiocy with a comment.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:30 AM
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17. Totall bullshit, no doubt.
Please people, stay grounded in reality. A politician "has reports" of some kind of sensational story. CNN should never have aired this bs.
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