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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:06 AM
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Bin Laden deplores climate change
Source: al jazeera

Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader, has condemned the US and other industrial economies, holding them responsible for the phenomenon of climate change.

In an audio tape obtained by Al Jazeera, bin Laden criticised George Bush, the former US president, for rejecting the Kyoto pact and condemned global corporations.

"This is a message to the whole world about those responsible for climate change and its repercussions - whether intentionally or unintentionally - and about the action we must take," bin Laden said.

"Speaking about climate change is not a matter of intellectual luxury - the phenomenon is an actual fact."


Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/01/20101277383676587.html



hehe ;)
next tape on what? GMO? endangered species? whales hunting?

i'm risking to see him (or his appointed interpreter) in some italian prime time tv program, talking about everything.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:09 AM
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:16 AM
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4. why should he? they both detest US and consider it the root of evil. enjoy your day. n/t
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:21 AM
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17. remember '04 election
when the cia gave their antimascot a bunch of democratic talking points
which it has never brought up again
seems too obvious to some, but others eat it up
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:22 AM
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33. ;)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:18 AM
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35. Yep. Suddenly the fuindamentalist Wahhabist is talking like Michael Moore
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 10:20 AM by tom_paine
But...but...if it was on TV and they said it was true, it MUST be true!

No use screaming against the cacophony.

And 99.5% ask no questions and eat it up, internalizing it.

I wonder how much slush money the Denial Industry slipped the Bushie Intel Community to slip that one in, or if they did it pro bono?

:rofl:

It is as worthwhile being a skeptic today as it must have been in 1934 Germany.

At least there's a lot less violence.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:10 AM
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2. WTF ?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:14 AM
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3. oh great
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:19 AM
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5. Thanks for weighing in on the scientific debate, Mr. Religious Psycho...
Who Lives in a Fucking Cave*.

Seriously, is there anyone on this planet who still believes this bullshit?

*And Who Still Can't Seem to Afford a $20 Video Camera.
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Duende azul Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:07 AM
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11. lol . About the audio tape I have a guess.
He doesn't buy a video camera because he is well aware of the environmental impacts of the production process. He knows that all these gadgets generate more damage in the making than in the later use.
So he has decided to use his 80's taperecorder til it falls apart. A responsible use of resources, dontcha think? I only hope he uses rechargeable batteries in recording his messages.
I know, as the new climate posterboy he should use a solar panel, but since that is easily detectable by the drones you can't really blame him for not doing so.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:44 AM
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6. Legally he could buy campaign advertising and promote GOP...
ideology. GOP political whores don't care where the money comes from.
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demi moore Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:48 AM
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7. thank god!
now climate change has a new poster boy!
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:52 AM
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8. Oh yes...climate must be important if your dead.......
And bin lauden is for climate change taxes too I bet...rofl
They really dont know when to quit do they? hahahaaaa
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:59 AM
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10. Well if you think about it...
He is helping reduce the carbon-footprint of man by 'killin. Less breathing - Less CO2 emmissions...I bet he would have been applauded at Copenhagen.

And for those who think I am serious: :sarcasm:
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Duende azul Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 05:54 AM
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9. And now? Are you with us or with the terrarists?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:13 AM
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12. "Who is bin Laden picking to win the Superbowl?" - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 06:17 AM by SpiralHawk
"See, I'm still real active and stuff in global affairs and stuff and still real relevant and stuff just like my Saudi buddies. So just like everybody really cares what 'The Binster' thinks about global climate change, I am sure they also care a whole diaperload about what I am thimking and stuff. Smirk."

- xCommander AWOL (R)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:57 AM
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22. "The Binster"
:rofl:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:40 AM
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25. "That's what my RepubbieBud, xCommander AWOL calls me." - The Binster
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:11 AM
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:49 AM
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13. This message from "bin Laden" brought to you by
The Association of Corporate Superpersons Who Are Against Doing Anything Environmental That Will Hurt Their Bottom Line.

Remember, kiddies... If "Osama" is "for" it, it has to be no good!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:13 AM
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15. In his next audio missive, OBL expresses his pro-choice and feminist views.
Along with his enthusiastic support for a strong public option for healthcare.

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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:57 AM
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14. And next on Bin Laden's Jihad for sound science...
"Why do a majority of Americans think the Theory of Evolution is Just theory?"


WTF? I thought this was an Onion Report! LOL!!!
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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:11 PM
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68. That's exactly what I thought too, The Onion
I had to look twice at the link to believe it wasn't.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:20 AM
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16. Dead guy keeps making audio tapes
He's worse than batboy. You just can't get him to shut up.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:28 AM
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18. I'm speechless.
:wow:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:44 AM
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19. ...
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 07:50 AM by CJCRANE
:rofl:


Al-Jazeera must mean "The Onion" in arabic.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:55 AM
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20. The WWE isn't this theatrical.
Can the CIA just give UBL the rest of the hush money already and stop insulting our intelligence?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:30 AM
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36. But like the WWE, it works, has worked for a long time, and will apparently keep working
Bin Laden is probably dead, anyway. Shortly before her death (make of that what you will) she clearly stated to David Frost, the someone (a Pakistani Colonel, I believe, but Google it for yourself it's probably still hiding in plain sight) was "the man who killed Bin Laden".

But back on topic: why would they stop? To 99.5% (or higher) of the American Subject Populace that IS the voice of Bin Laden.

As the rules of advertising, psychology, and marketing clearly show, somewhere in thousands (perhaps millions) of subconscious-es the negative connotation has been formed.

When next they hear of anthropocentric climate change, warming or of course the massively funded PR-operation to delegitimize climate science, it will be viewed through the subconscious filter that Bin Laden WANTS them to believe the "hoax", which, without it ever touching their conscious minds, will influence it.

And THAT is how all advertising, PR, and Corporate "synergies" work at bottom.

If the programming starts to fade, just shock 'em again with a new PsyOp to erase the deviant programming.

If one considers the whole Comedy of Underpants Man, of which the Phony Bin Laden Tape is merely the final piece, this was a classic behaviorist systemwide shock to the American Subject Populace.

Goebbels never had ANYTHING so sophisticated to work with as the Bushie Intel/Corporate fusion does.

Don't look for this to stop working anytime soon, nor for 99.5% of people (or higher) to swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Think about it: it took the Russians 50 years or more to figure out that everything on Soviet TV was a lie, and they were a bunch of hamfisted amatuers compared to the Bushies.

How long will it take us, then? Not in our lifetimes will we see this repeated PsyOp fail in any significant way. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:29 PM
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49. No doubt the CIA will keep the populace fearful with new "realities" every day.
Just like in the 50s-80s with the overblown "Cold War" mess. In fact, since this sect is more mysterious and diplomatically isolated than the U.S.S.R was, it's probably far easier to create them and N. Korea as enemies.

This latest instance with UBL a widely known Democratic concern . . . it's like the "Black Russian" moment from Naked Gun 2 1/2; bad, even for them.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:57 AM
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21. Well fuck! We better start fixing that climate change or he'll attack us again!
Maybe he'll get his hands on some nukes. That'll fix it.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:06 AM
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23. Al Masih ad Dajjal speaks. If he were that concerned with the environment.
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 08:10 AM by Wizard777
He wouldn't be dumping jet fuel in Manhattan. Perhaps we should show him and his followers the environmental impact statement from 9/11. Al Masih ad Dajjal brings forth another Druj. He speaks with the tongue of the serpent.
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:29 AM
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24. I guess noe we have to be for climate change because the
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 08:29 AM by Blue Meany
terrorists are against it. I can hear the GOP talking points already: "My opponent agrees with Osama bin Laden..."
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:44 AM
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26. Ugh...dude, just go away
Without getting into a discussion of climate change and our country's response to it, methinks Osama is simply using this issue to further his own agenda. I really doubt Osama gives two shits about climate change.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:51 AM
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27. Assuming OBL is not buried under several tons of rubble...
I suspect he's about as outraged over climate change as Pat Robertson or John Hagee.
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:20 AM
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32. True...
Even if he was alive, he's nothing more than a rallying cry for those who believe in his cause.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:52 AM
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28. who gives a fuck what he had to say? dead man talking
I don't think he's alive anymore, but if he is, this is almost comical in its absurdity.

shut the fuck up. you have no credibility. if you want to help the environment, kill yourself, OBL.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:53 PM
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46. Wow . . . nothing like anger to block reason . . .
What difference who is telling you that we need to stop corporate/fascism and

capitalistic insanities?

Global Warming isn't owned by Bin Laden -- it effects the entire world.

And the economic system which has delivered this pollution of the planet, air, water --

and total destruction of the planet -- is CAPITALISM!!

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 07:10 PM
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61. what difference?
what difference who is telling me? that is simply a ridiculous statement. you really don't assign value to a speaker? if cheney told you to conserve water, would you want to say great or go fuck yourself, cheney. me, I'd tell him to go fuck himself. he's not telling me anything I don't already know. same thing. obl has nothing to say of value to me. neither does cheney.

I already understand the issues of global warming. to have obl give the U.S. lessons about behavior is a joke.

but, in any case, if I want to tell obl to go fuck himself, I will. it has nothing to do with issues of capitalism. it has to do with him being a worthless piece of shit whose death would be a good thing for this world.... along with some capitalists I can think of, too, but that really wasn't the issue in this thread.

but thank you for your opinion.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:54 PM
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47. dupe --
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 01:55 PM by defendandprotect
What difference who is telling you that we need to stop corporate/fascism and

capitalistic insanities?

Global Warming isn't owned by Bin Laden -- it effects the entire world.

And the economic system which has delivered this pollution of the planet, air, water --

and total destruction of the planet -- is CAPITALISM!!

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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:56 AM
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29. LOL OBL new gig... Guest Commentator on Faux...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:18 AM
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31. More evidence that obl is just a paper cut out of the cia propaganda factory.
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 09:20 AM by Javaman
what better example can the right wing use to put down the left and climate change? Why, compare them to terrorists!!!

"terrorists believe in climate change!!! So who should we be listening to now for information? not the left or the environmentalists, because they side with terrorists!! we should listen to the fossil fuel industry!! they will save us all!!"

Wait for it, if this talking point already hasn't happened, it most certainly will.

these made for tv cia produced little moronic videos are getting tiresome.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 09:33 AM
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34. Shut up, Osama.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:17 AM
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43. If that's Osama Bin Laden talking then George W. Bush & Adolf Hitler were liberals.
:rofl:

More accurately would be "shut up, Bushie Intelligence Operatives!"

But they won't shut up, their stuff has always worked and keeps on working.

Apparently, it will continue to do so for a long time.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:50 PM
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56. Take off the tin-foil hat.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:38 PM
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60. Take out the tin-foil brain
If you actually believe in this BS, I have some prime Florida real estate to sell you. Seriously, it's great.

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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:45 AM
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37. Sounds like James Inhofe and the gang are writing these Bin Laden messages
to further demonize climate change proponents, we see through this shit.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:52 AM
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38. He'll be releasing his video on climate change and home decorating any day now.
"An Inconvenient Cave"
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:52 AM
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39. Dead Guy is dead.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:59 AM
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40. Audio tape, my ass. You know what I'd like to see?
I want a high-quality independently assessed video clip of this cocksucker sitting in his secret volcano headquarters holding up a copy of last week's Sunday NYT or the IHT or Newsweek.

Compact video cameras, cell phone cameras, digital video - it's not like these are Area 51-style rumors in Peshawar and Kabul - all al Quaeda has to do is go and BUY one and pack it into the "Command Center".

But in the absence of same, the disinformation industry can STFU.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:59 AM
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41. OK, he cites Chomsky
"Noam Chomsky was correct when he compared the US policies to those of the Mafia. They are the true terrorists and therefore we should refrain from dealing in the US dollar and should try to get rid of this currency as early as possible.

"I am certain that such actions will have grave repercussions and huge impact."

This isn't the real bin Laden. Somebody, somewhere, is having a lot of fun.
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sam kane Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:19 PM
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64. LOL! nt
nt
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:02 AM
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42. Ahem....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/ar...

When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing
By William M. Arkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Monday, Feb. 1, 1999


"Gentlemen! We have called you together to inform you that we are going to overthrow the United States government."

So begins a statement being delivered by Gen. Carl W. Steiner, former Commander-in-chief, U.S. Special Operations Command.At least the voice sounds amazingly like him.

But it is not Steiner. It is the result of voice "morphing" technology developed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.

By taking just a 10-minute digital recording of Steiner's voice, scientist George Papcun is able, in near real time, to clone speech patterns and develop an accurate facsimile. Steiner was so impressed, he asked for a copy of the tape.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:23 AM
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44. perfect
I'm surprised the corporate assholes who own this country didn't get this out sooner... I assume bin laden is working for them just like the puppets over here do.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 01:50 PM
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45.  Capitalism is the most despised economic system throughout the world . . .


The al-Qaida leader also targeted the U.S. economy in the recording, calling for a boycott of American products and an end to the dollar's domination as a world currency.

"We should stop dealings with the dollar and get rid of it as soon as possible," he said. "I know that this has great consequences and grave ramifications, but it is the only means to liberate humanity from slavery and dependence on America."
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concerned1 Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:24 PM
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48. Next: Bin Laden deplores NFL's appropriation of "Who Dat"
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:39 PM
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50. Bin Laden is against climate change
Bin Laden is a terrorist.
Therefore anyone against climate change is a terrorist.

The next global warming denialist talking point.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:41 PM
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51. Why are we still listening to a guy who is recording audio tapes?
Seriously, they need to get on youtube or something.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:51 PM
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52. now that UBL Goldstein has spoken, let's proceed to our two-minute hate
What's next, "patriotic pollution" to fight back against the terrorists? Clearly, we must destroy the planet to save it...
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:58 PM
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53. Wait, he's not a cartoon character?
He has opinions beyond "kill americans"?

...and nobody told us?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:16 PM
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54. Well, who knew?
- Who knew that instead of some rabid, Meglomaniac-Fundamentalist-Wahhabi with the delusions toward grandier which we've been witness to all this time, turns out that Binnie is also a leftist, communistic, wacko-environmentalist too.

Also.

K&R


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:20 PM
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55. Since he's been dead for years, it's safe to assume this is more bullshit.
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 03:21 PM by TexasObserver
He always seem to say exactly what the War Party Planet Rapers would want him to say. Funny how that works out, isn't it?

Why, it's almost as if someone somewhere is fabricating tapes with technology, just to keep this dead ghost rumbling around, like some fake apparition from a Scooby Doo cartoon.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:58 PM
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57. This Just In...Bin Laden Does Not Want Sarah Palin to Run for President
Bin Laden: "Her toughness against terrorism, and her tenure as the mayor of Wasilla and Governor of Alaska have shown me that she would be too formidable an opponent to me and my organization. Why, we would disband immediately if she were to win."

:sarcasm:

If you're going to use OBL quotes to advance an agenda, might as well go all of the way.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:07 PM
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58. sure He did...
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 04:15 PM
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59. If he deplored climate change he would be anti-war, anti-jihad, a pacifist.
Instead he brought about conflicts in the middle east that are emitting millions of tonnes of CO2 every year.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:36 PM
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66. According to one conspiracy theory, that is correct.
Other explanations have not been ruled out, however.

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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:01 PM
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62. Are you sure that wasn't Dick Armey "throwing" his voice?
Or maybe Glen Beck with an altered video? Sounds about right to me ....
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sam kane Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:20 PM
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65. +1 nt.
nt
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UglyWarrior Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 08:06 PM
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63. Why doesn't he release videos anymore?
It's always a tape, and nobody analyzes the tape in order to check for authenticity.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 10:39 PM
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67. It's hard to find a good make up artist
when you're dead.
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