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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:43 PM
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Catholic Charities to drop health coverage of spouses of newlyweds, new hires
Source: Washington Post

One day before same-sex marriage becomes legal in the District, Catholic Charities will modify its health coverage for employees so that all spouses of newlyweds and new hires will not be covered.

A memo notified staff members Monday of the imminent change.

Spouses of current employees will continue to have health coverage, the memo said. But by making the policy effective Tuesday, the charity will not have to extend benefits to anyone who legally weds one of its gay employees.

Wednesday is the first day when same-sex couples can take out marriage licenses in the city. . .

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/01/AR2010030103345.html?hpid=topnews



Disgusting. Appalling. Even heartbreaking. I am not anti-Catholic, but this is intolerance at its worst.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:53 PM
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1. what a spiteful, vicious , petty bullshit thing to do
Shameful act.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:05 PM
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15. what do they care? they don't have to support a spouse or family.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:36 AM
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33. Child Sodomizers and Pedophiles Inc.
Father Feeney would be proud

http://www.andersonadvocates.com/Viewarticle.aspx?ID=36

http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/wis-diocese-loses-insurance-coverage-fraud-trial

After the suit was filed, the diocese's insurance company, Indiana Insurance, asked to be dismissed from the case, claiming since the Diocese's actions were intentional, the policy didn't cover the case. In a ruling signed July 15, Outagamie County Judge Nancy Krueger agreed and dismissed the insurance company.

"The Plantiffs allege the Diocese acted with an intent to keep knowledge of Father Feeney's past actions from the parishes to which it sent him and by extension from the Plantiffs. As the policy specifically excludes coverage for intentional acts, Indiana has no obligation under this policy to defend and indemnify the Diocese in this matter," Krueger wrote.

Lawyer Jeff Anderson, who represents the Merryfields, said he is not concerned that the diocese lacks insurance coverage, saying it has adequate resources to pay whatever damages award a jury makes.

"We want the children to be protected and we want those who have been wounded to be compensated," Anderson said. "And it's the Diocese of Green Bay's corporate officers that need to he held, ultimately, to account for the misdeeds of the past so it doesn't get repeated in the future."
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:53 PM
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2. Prayer heals all.
They just have to trust in Jebus.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:56 PM
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5. at least my jesus would be throughly pissed off....
kinda like when he kicked ass in the temple
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:57 PM
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7. There's more than one? Who knew?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:29 PM
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13. sure is-------"my personal jesus"
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:55 AM
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30. Your Jesus is my Jesus. N/T
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 10:17 AM
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37. catholics never believed in faith healing. after all
they own a lot of hospitals.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:53 PM
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3. Isn't that just freakin' speciial?
I'll keep to myself anything else I might want to type.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:54 PM
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4. that really is disgusting
i hope the "straight couples" see what it`s like to be discriminated against. i hope the gay community uses this to their advantage...

do`t mourn-organize!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:57 PM
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6. Spiteful, mean spirited and small minded....all wrapped up in one neat package.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:58 PM
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8. K&R #5
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:58 PM
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9. Jebus wept.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:20 PM
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10. Since the 'State' has seen fit to issue marriage licenses...
I expect this to be legally challenged almost immediately. Catholic church has no legs on this one due to their pedo priests. As an employer, don't see how the church can get away with this.

Spouses are spouses and new hires certainly should be covered.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:44 PM
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17. There's also a law that states that all employees must be
treated equally. I ran into it a number of years ago. The co. I worked for paid for the ins. coverage of the spouses of their executives but not the rest of mgmt or any other employees. They ultimately granted coverage to all spouses.

I suspect the church could get away with this tactic if they would have revoked coverage of ANY spouses, including those currently employeed.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:26 PM
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11. I don't think Jesus would have done that.
That is very unChristian behavior.


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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:28 PM
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12. It's a religion based charity and religions do what religions do.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:58 PM
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18. True
May those who call themselves 'Catholic' use this example to figure out just what they have been subservient to.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:00 AM
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32. I agree with you
But they should get not district or federal funds at all.

And those who suffer most will be those who need it most - the poor in DC. not the church or its employees.
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Heathen57 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:57 PM
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14. This is what you get when a religion
worships its dogma more than their own Christ and put their supposed principals above the needs of the laity.

Seems the Bishop is stomping his feet and whining that if he hast to follow the rules, then he wants to take his ball and run home.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:19 PM
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16. Ha! Just try to find staff doctors and nurses without spousal benefits.
The market for those and other health professionals is so tight that Catholic Charities will be forced to resort to prayer to replace skilled medical care.

This ban is going to last about two months, tops.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:34 AM
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26. The ban won't even last until tomorrow
when the DC City Council revokes all of CC's tax exempt status. Let's see how long that ban will last then - then the IRS and the DC Revenue can go after back taxes.

Hawkeye-X
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 09:34 AM
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36. small thing gets in the way of that
it's called the 1st Amendment.

Singling out a charity because of their religious affiliation would violate the establishment clause.
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scottsoperson Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:00 PM
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19. i suppose pedophile priests support the sanctity of marriage
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 11:00 PM by scottsoperson
...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:36 AM
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34. They love little boys tho
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:11 PM
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20. Born and raised Catholic. Now I'm a practicing Christian.
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 11:15 PM by ShockediSay
Because of this kind of hypocrisy.
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scottsoperson Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:13 PM
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21. archbishop law probably supports the sanctity of marriage...
...
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scottsoperson Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:15 PM
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22. archbishop law is hiding out in the vatican...
but i suspect the vatican supports the sanctity of marriage.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:58 AM
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31. Plus he's a Cardinal
And living the high life in the Vatican. I have a really hard time justifying any of this. I was born and raised Catholic; spent 13 years in Catholic schools and I am convinced the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is doing more damage than help.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:15 PM
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23. sounds very christian of them - WTF n/t
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:25 PM
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24. This is why there shouldn't be government support of faith based charities.
$22 million from the city should not be going to any organization that would do this.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:32 AM
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25. That's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
And I'll bet tomorrow there'll be a lawsuit against the CC for their discrimination.

Hawkeye-X
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:34 AM
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27. well obviously this will get them the best employees possible

because nothing says we really want you to work for us at Catholic Charities than 'tell your spouse to go fuck themselves'
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 01:13 AM
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28. Bastids.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 02:51 AM
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29. Send them an email.
donations@catholiccharitiesusa.org

I just did, informing them exactly why they will never EVER get a PENNY of money from me.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 08:05 AM
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35. Wow. How very "family values" of them.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:29 PM
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38. ...from a bunch of child-raping cover-up artists led by a former Hitler Youth!
Wish I could remember which DUer originally put it so succinctly.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 07:43 PM
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43. You have to be one of the dumbest trolls I've seen here yet.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 07:45 PM
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44. This troll didn't last 10 minutes
Another religious Zealot "Bites the Dust"
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:53 PM
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45. It is
and considering what they are doing to people all in the name of bigotry... hypocritical too.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 09:13 PM
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46. Disgusting and illogical
The official irrational hatred of the GLBT community is destroying the institution from the inside out. The irrational fear over homosexuality is way off the deep end.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 10:23 PM
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47. The church is ALL about gays and abortions
They have lost their way. The hyper-focus on things Jesus never even spoke of is destroying what is left of the church. But then, if one is honest, the church has been all about politics and power since it's earliest times.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 10:33 PM
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48. They have total focus on "the pelvic issues" per historian Garry Wills
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 08:09 AM
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49. `
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-10 09:44 AM
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50. they cannot get money from HCR unless our govt. allows them to discriminate against women
...which is why "principled" democrats are holding up health care for millions.

it would be fine with me if the catholic church could no longer operate in the U.S. because no one wants to be associated with their medieval pontifical positions.

imo that would be a good thing.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:16 AM
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51. This will solve Catholic Charities employment problem...
because why would anyone want to work for them if they knew they couldn't get healthcare?

"Look, I've had two offers. One is from you. The other is from Home Depot to be an assistant manager. I'd rather work for you, but they're offering healthcare and you're not. Why not?"
'Oh, that. Well, if we offer it to you we have to offer it to a gay couple, and we can't support immorality.'
"I can't support my family consisting of a wife and two children with no healthcare, so I guess I better go get fitted for an orange apron."
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:27 AM
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52. "Catholic Charities" a Living Oxymoron
"catholic" meaning:

1. Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive: "The 100-odd pages of formulas and constants are surely the most catholic to be found" (Scientific American).
2. Including or concerning all humankind; universal: "what was of catholic rather than national interest" (J.A. Froude).
3. Catholic
1. Of or involving the Roman Catholic Church.
2. Of or relating to the universal Christian church.
3. Of or relating to the ancient undivided Christian church.
4. Of or relating to those churches that have claimed to be representatives of the ancient undivided church.

"charity" meaning:

1.generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to devote one's life to charity.

2.something given to a person or persons in need; alms: She asked for work, not charity.

3.a charitable act or work.

4.a charitable fund, foundation, or institution: He left his estate to a charity.

5.benevolent feeling, esp. toward those in need or in disfavor: She looked so poor that we fed her out of charity.

6.leniency in judging others; forbearance: She was inclined to view our selfish behavior with charity.

7.Christian love; agape.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:04 PM
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53. Their ploy is obvious - trying to turn straight employees against gays
By denying everyone health care and then blaming it on "the gay" is a great divisive tool. They then get the straight employees, whom may not care about gay marriage otherwise, to side with them on how "the gay" is ruining everything. It's mean, spiteful but brilliant all at once. I wonder how long the class-action lawsuit will take...

BTW, I'm gay and think the Catholic church is a big hypocritical bully but I can see their plan and admire it.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 01:20 PM
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54. How hateful...
...:puke:

Just to punish people with whom they disagree. How "christian" of them...:sarcasm:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 12:02 AM
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55. But they can run a male prostitution ring under the nose of the Pope. no prob.
'cause that's the total hypocrisy that makes up the right wing world view.
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