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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:13 PM
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Newsom orders layoffs for 15,000 S.F. workers but plans to hire back most on part-time basis
Source: Pleasanton Weekly News

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom cut the workweek for 15,000 full-time city employees to 37.5 hours Friday as a cost-cutting measure.

The mayor's office also clarified that approximately 15,000 of the city's 26,000 workers were to start receiving layoff notices Friday and over the weekend, and not 20,000 as it said earlier.

. . .

Newsom said the layoff notices are a "technical" measure, and that the "overwhelming majority" of the noticed workers will be rehired immediately, should they so choose, but at a part-time status, working a half-hour less each day. That would amount to an approximately 6.25-percent pay cut, he said.

"This is a way of ... substantially maintaining our city services," Newsom said. He said it will save "arguably thousands of jobs," though future additional layoffs will still be necessary, he added.

Read more: http://www.pleasantonweekly.com/news/show_story.php?id=3606




Full time status to part time status for over half of the city's staff.

And the article carefully only talks about the reduction in pay avoiding any talk about a corresponding reduction of benefit status.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:16 PM
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1. Translated they don't have to pay their healthcare --Walmartization
is what this is. Expect to see more of it this year.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:19 PM
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3. Or pensions. Or over-time. Or be given a reason for termination. All those "useless and evil" union
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 08:19 PM by WinkyDink
benefits.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:22 PM
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4. does that mean that in California?
In MA if you work more than half-time the employers have to offer you health insurance.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:45 PM
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12. Yea... but MA
has the evil Romney care that the rest of the country doesn't, so any employees are screwed for health insurance.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:28 AM
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26. this was the case in MA even before Romneycare
if you worked more than 20 hours a week you were eligible for benefits. I think it varies by state.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:13 AM
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27. Yeah, in TX it's 32hrs. nt
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:18 PM
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2. Gavin has mastered the art of spin control, I see.....
The World's Greatest Country is circling the drain.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:59 PM
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6. That's really all he has been good at. n/t
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:38 PM
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8. not really. the world's greatest country (tm) is in a RECESSION
has happened before, will happen again

chicken littles have always said "it's the end"

and it never is

hth
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:59 PM
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16. Your job is secure as is mine
but this is the worst recession I've personally ever seen. As well, this one is different because the consumer base is imploding. Just because you and I can still buy food and geegaws doesn't mean that this isn't awful. And yeah, it's the beginning of the end of our status as a first world country. Your job will actually outlast mine, come to think of it, because when food becomes even scarcer, the police will still have to keep order. But, I'm not sure I could keep my spirit intact while policing starving people.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:07 PM
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17. i have yet to see any starving people
and thus, this is a bad recession, but nowhere NEAR what people suffered during, for example, the great depression.

it is NOT the beginning of the end

there is an old (and true) saying in finance (mostly amongst traders) when people talk about bubbles or recessions . people always say "it's different this time"

except it isn't

the real estate bubble was "different". no, it wasn't.

nor was the tech bubble, etc.

it's not "different" in that, it's happened before, it will happen again

it's a recession.

people were calling for massive food shortages (for example) DECADES ago to happen very soon. lots of hysterical 70's books and articles, for example.

as soon as i start seeing a bunch of starving people, i'll let you know

in a nation where obesity is the #1 health problem amongst the lower income quintiles, i'm not holding my breath
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:11 PM
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18. I want you to be right
But since we've been running our own personal soup kitchen, I would have to say you aren't looking very closely (yes, Seattle and the Eastside). Most of my friends are out of work and starving. Perhaps I don't keep a high enough class of friends but I really don't think this a testament to their worthiness. They aren't starving because we've all come together as a community and thank the gods for that.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:18 PM
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19. i think we can probably meet at the middle
i've been to two of the downtown soup kitchens. i'm not saying it's not tough. i'm just saying it's not anywhere NEAR AS BAD as the great depression (which we recovered from), and there's not a lot of starving going on. i frequently work "the hood" and plentyy of people are still wasting money on energy drinks and cigs, etc.

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:27 PM
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20. I can go with that
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:38 PM
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9. not really. the world's greatest country (tm) is in a RECESSION
has happened before, will happen again

chicken littles have always said "it's the end"

and it never is

hth
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:45 PM
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5. This is EXACTLY what you do not do as a Gov't org during "tough times"
They need to f*ing raise taxes enough to cover these people. This only speeds up the downward spiral.

Have we learned so little?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:54 PM
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13. Raise taxes on what, though?
Home values have declined significantly, sales tax revenue is way down, with the rate of unemployment + underemployment hovering close to 20% income tax isn't reliable, either.

The private sector has been squeezed for 3 decades. The housing bubble kept the pyramid propped up a little longer, but the private sector can't support the public sector any longer and unlike the federal government, states and municipalities can't print their way out of deficits.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:57 PM
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15. Raise taxes on the wealthy, clearly.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 03:36 AM
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25. Those guys are pretty slippery....
A lot of otherwise liberal people graduate from college and go on to enable the rich to move their wealth into protected assets.
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Gumbyman2 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:36 PM
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7. All part of the plan...
Just brings us a little closer to the day when we will be making toys with lead paint for the children in China.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:41 PM
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10. I bet there's a whole lot of people that suddenly decided they're for a Public Option.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:43 PM
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11. everyone living in SF gets health care - I believe it is separate from employment n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:56 PM
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14. It's a myth.


As for the OP - Newsom is OK on civil liberties, but basically a Republican lite on everything else.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:30 PM
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22. yea - I am sure that is why he married gay people first n/t
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:37 PM
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24. that's why i said he's good on civil liberities, but pretty much sucks on everything else.

not sure about you, but i consider a right to marry a civil liberty.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:29 PM
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21. he was on someone's show recently and said - oh Rachel's show nt
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FairOaksCA Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:32 PM
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23. Clarification
Just to clarify, the paper chose the word "part-time", not Newsome. The affected employees will work 37.5 hours per week instead of 40 hours. Employees will maintain all benefits. The only effect (besides the reduced hours) would be on calcultaion of retirement benefits that are calculated on final annual compensation.

SFGate article has more details: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/06/BAJ11CBKHJ.DTL
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