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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:26 PM
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Economists Say Fed Saved the U.S. Economy
Source: Wall Street Journal

By PHIL IZZO

The $787 billion stimulus package was a good for the economy, but the Federal Reserve played the biggest role in rescuing the U.S. economy from the financial crisis, according to the majority of economists in the latest Wall Street Journal forecasting survey.

"A much worse result would have occurred if nothing had been done," said survey participant Allen Sinai of Decision Economics, co-author of a paper examining the effects of government intervention with colleague Paul Edelstein. But "the absence of monetary policy easing would have resulted in a much worse economy than the absence of the fiscal policy stimulus."

Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703625304575115674057260664.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection



Damn! The kool-aid tastes great!
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:29 PM
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1. And the banksters still have
trillions of bad assets they are being allowed to hide on their books.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:45 PM
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Geez if only the Fed hadn't blew up the economy in the first place
I never could understand why Greenspan made those last 2 rate cuts in Nov 2002 and June 2003.

Low interest rates(ie negative real interest rates) give people disincentive to save and incentive to borrow beyond their means... ...to repay. The Fed can ease all it want's but that won't stop the privately owed Fed from being the ultimate bagholder. Who owns the Fed? Wall Street?

Quantitative Easing... ...inflation... ... ... ... ... ...the end of the US dollar as reserve currency... ...the end of the US as superpower.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 12:07 PM
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13. To pump the economy for Bush, who he wanted to win.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:45 PM
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2. Geez if only the Fed hadn't blew up the economy in the first place
I never could understand why Greenspan made those last 2 rate cuts in Nov 2002 and June 2003.

Low interest rates(ie negative real interest rates) give people disincentive to save and incentive to borrow beyond their means... ...to repay. The Fed can ease all it want's but that won't stop the privately owed Fed from being the ultimate bagholder. Who owns the Fed? Wall Street?

Quantitative Easing... ...inflation... ... ... ... ... ...the end of the US dollar as reserve currency... ...the end of the US as superpower.


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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:56 PM
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3. Goldman Sachs boys hailed as heroes for pissing out the fire they started
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 12:50 AM
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4. Update:
Economists caught smoking crack, meth, opium, and dog shit.
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lagavulin Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 03:38 PM
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14. Better Update: "74% of Economic articles are literally published by the Fed"
National Post: "Rewriting the Fed's History"

"74% of the articles on monetary policy published by U.S. economists in U.S.-edited journals appeared in journals published by the Fed...The Fed’s own capacity to write and re-write history dominates the information flow."


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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:00 AM
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5. It is true - the policies helped, though you can easily argue that prior
Bad policies brought us to the brink. If the Fed did nothing - AKA the Herbert Hoover method if hzndlng a severe economic crisis, then you would see far more tent cities than you see today.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:19 AM
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6. And consider the source.
This is not you father's WSJ.
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beardown Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:52 AM
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7. Amazing what you can save with 12 trillion in guarantees.
Duh. 12 or more trillion in guarantees helped?

We could have seen much better and fairer and broader help if the FED had given out 2-3 trillion in mortgage adjustments and refinances to allow owners to stay in the houses they could no longer afford and to give breaks (stimulus) to those who did not need to be saved and the FED could have allowed a dozen or so of the worst offending banks to die and take their investors' money with them.

Then we'd have a bunch of rich folks hollering for more regulations and millions more working class people still in their homes or spending a bonus for having stayed out of the housing Ponzi game in the first place.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:16 AM
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8. Maybe they did and maybe they didn't. We will never know.
Edited on Fri Mar-12-10 02:17 AM by Kablooie
Is what we are going through a good result?

Or did it not do any good and what we are going through is a bad result?

It will always remain a matter of opinion.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 06:21 AM
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9. Shock Doctrine in three easy steps...
1. Come up with a solution to a crisis that benefits you

2. Cause said crisis.

3. Implement solution quickly, before anyone comes up with a better one.

Lather, rinse, repeat...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 06:27 AM
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10. Saved the economy----for whom?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 06:28 AM
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11. Are these the perpetually "surprised" economists?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 11:55 AM
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12. Um, no, it was our tax dollars that did that...
Edited on Fri Mar-12-10 11:55 AM by Javaman
it was the fed that spent them.

And I'm still not convinced that the economy is "saved".
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