Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Woman 'ogled': airport worker warned over body scanner use

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:15 AM
Original message
Woman 'ogled': airport worker warned over body scanner use
Source: Sydney Morning Herald


Full body scanners went into use at Heathrow Airport early last month.
----------

A security worker at London's Heathrow Airport has received a police warning and faces disciplinary action over claims he ogled a female colleague using a full-body scanner, officials said yesterday. The 25-year-old worker made lewd comments after his colleague Jo Margetson, 29, mistakenly strayed into the scanner, which can see through clothes to produce an image of the body, the Sun newspaper reported.

The case is believed to be the first of its kind since the full-body scanners were rushed into service at a number of British airports in the wake of an attempt by a suspected Muslim extremist to blow up a plane bound for Detroit on December 25.

They are now being rolled out at airports across the world. Details of the incident at Heathrow's Terminal 5 on March 10 emerged on the day lawmakers said concerns that the scanners were intrusive had been overblown.

Margetson told the Sun she had been "traumatized" by what had happened and had informed police and her bosses at the airport's operator BAA.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/woman-ogled-airport-worker-warned-over-body-scanner-use-20100325-qxqa.html



Didn't take Nostradamus to see this one coming....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:18 AM
Response to Original message
1. Apparently its ok to leer at passengers and children in the naked scanner
However its a horrible thing if you do it to one of your fellow leer'ers.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #1
13. Entertaining isn't it. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:37 AM
Response to Original message
2. When people insisted this and worse were exactly what would happen they were told
over and over that the resolution wasn't high enough to make out any detail, accused of just hating the TSA, and it was insinuated we must sympathize with terrorists. Watch how many knots people will have to twist themselves into trying to justify them now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stumbler Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:20 AM
Response to Original message
3. Gee golly gosh!!
Who could've ever thought anybody might abuse the use of these fun new toys, er, um, surveillance devices...?

Oh, that's right, just those pacifist, cry-baby liberals... :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:14 AM
Response to Original message
4. Color me surprised.
When will it show up on youtube?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:28 AM
Response to Original message
5. at least they aren't specifically looking at people's feet

http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htm



just a little history for buffs on fluoroscopes used in the 1930's, 40's and 50's

* 'One of the more serious injuries linked to the operation of these machines involved a shoe model who received such a serious radiation burn that her leg had to be amputated (Bavley 1950) '

Perhaps they will find out all the problems with these full-body scanners a few years from now and THEN say oops. Isn't that tradition?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #5
15. I remember those! From when I was a kid.
There was one right there at the shoe store. They had me stand in it every time I tried on a pair of shoes. (This was in the 50s.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #15
19. Yeah, I remember playing with the damn things..
We used to play with mercury too. It was so much fun to play with that shiny slippery stuff.

Damn! :*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:38 AM
Response to Original message
6. And no one saw this coming?

:sarcasm:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:21 AM
Response to Original message
7. The terrorists always win.
Let's just give up and try to live like we skipped over the day after the tenth of September in 2001.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:27 AM
Response to Original message
8. I waiting on the website. www.airportscanpics.xxx
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:43 AM
Response to Original message
9. It's only a matter of time before body scanner porn starts cropping up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:51 AM
Response to Original message
10. Back in the good old days, a eunuch class provided internal security to nations
Perhaps we should look to reinstate that tradition.

I'd recommend preparing the offspring of Republicans for this career at birth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:36 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. "Spawn" of Republicans!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:39 AM
Response to Original message
12. and why not FIRED?
Oh yes. I guess because he is a "highly trained" "security professional."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #12
34. It appears she accidentially stepped in front of it and a worker just happened see the scan
Not defending him, but lots of men would say SOMETHING in that situation. Sure, he likely said too much though. Kind of like if you're at the beach and a woman in front of you has a nipple slip (you didn't go out of your way to see it, and she didn't do it on purpose). It's hard to just ignore it. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:54 AM
Response to Original message
14. just flew over the weekend
and got the fully body scan for the 1st time.

I asked the guy running the machine if I could see the image and his comment was that he never sees it, just the green light or red light comes on. The image is viewed "elsewhere"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:40 AM
Response to Original message
16. You can look, but you can't enjoy!
How will they differentiate between a disinterested glance and a lewd glare?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:50 AM
Response to Original message
17. Let me see;
Billy Bob is at the scanner and what does he see?

Yeah, right; the privacy of Merican bods will be upheld, at least as long as it takes for BB to get a USB link to his IPhone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:53 AM
Response to Original message
18. I was frisked the other day -of course I was high risk....
I was holding hands with my pilot-husband who was in uniform and wearing his ID badges.

The TSA person told me I was "random".

My husband says they want to make sure they don't find anything because then it's less work for them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #18
24. That's interesting
I know someone who works for the Justice Department who is ALWAYS "randomly" selected, perhaps because of an incident wherein they had DoJ documents in a terrorism case that they would not let the TSA lackey look at because they were not cleared to do so. The TSA always also suspect federal law enforcement folks of traveling with a weapon, and always want to search them, so many will present civilian id to avoid the hassle, even when traveling on official business.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Reverse Profiling by TSA-for lack of better terminology.
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 11:08 PM by cpamomfromtexas
When I was pregnant, they always scanned my belly while asking if it is a boy or girl and what was I going to name it. I guess I was high risk then and of course high risk since I was holding a pilots hand.

Unbelievable.

I think general harassment of the law enforcement types, pilots, and FFDO's is a matter of course for sure. I'd like to take a look at the TSA's procedures. I think they pull these types over in an effort to reverse discriminate so they skew the stats so they won't be accused of "profiling".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
20. The only real detail you can see in these is general breast and butt shapes, correct?
I tried searching around for some of the sample pics and that was pretty much all you could see. I guess it would be embarrassing if you have funny boobs or something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #20
25. Aren't you forgetting the genital region a bit?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. That's what I'm wondering....in all of the test pictures you can't see anything at all
in the genital region for either men or women, it looks like.

Anyone know what these REALLY show? Like are there some picture examples that are different than all the ones on the news?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. They blur those pics for publication in family friendly media

Tells you something right there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
31. Even in the photo at the top of this thread,
you can make out the guy's crack. If it can image that level of detail, there's no reason it can't pick out detailed outlines of breasts and genitals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Genealogist Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
21. What next? Full strip searches in the middle of the terminal?
Sorry for the slippery slope there. But, seriously, is this kind of thing REALLY necessary? A lot of the rules and rituals of "making flights safe" seem over the top. And now, with this scanner, they have created, more or less, a new crime: scanporn.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. Coming to an airport near you. All it will take is a failed plane bomber with explosives or weapons
in a body cavity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:24 AM
Response to Original message
22. a better mouse trap
some 1 send me a better mouse trap for this problem , walk them thru a bomb detecting box , if they are carrying a bomb it will automatically explode ,end of story
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:28 AM
Response to Original message
23. This post is useless without pictures.
:hide:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:44 AM
Response to Original message
27. Another right wing perversive form of harassment . . .!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
29. There are some jobs decent people just will not do
These include airport security, tow truck driver and collection agent among others, the very willingness to do the above work can only come out of an abusive authoritarian personality.

A number of years ago one of my friends had an altercation at LAX after a TSA screener began describing, in spanish and in explicit detail what he wished to do with her breasts. She complained, the TSA screener denied it and claimed she had made threats. Hilarity ensued.

When you hire the scum of the earth and give them unchecked authority this is what happens, if it were another passenger who complained they might have been tasered or worse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #29
33. Several years ago, they harassed my Dad (retired Captain) so much
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 11:11 PM by cpamomfromtexas
He took his pants off and threw them on the x ray machine. He then collected his pants hung them neatly over this arm and strolled down the terminal. No one said a word, because if they had, the plane wasn't going anywhere.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 06:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC