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harry_pothead Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:42 AM
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Transfer cleared by pope, priest molested again
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 04:42 AM by harry_pothead
Source: MSNBC (quoting the NYT)

MUNICH, Germany - The future Pope Benedict XVI was kept more closely apprised of a sexual abuse case in Germany than previous church statements have suggested, raising fresh questions about his handling of a scandal unfolding under his direct supervision before he rose to the top of the church’s hierarchy.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future pope and archbishop in Munich at the time, was copied on a memo that informed him that a priest, whom he had approved sending to therapy in 1980 to overcome pedophilia, would be returned to pastoral work within days of beginning psychiatric treatment. The priest was later convicted of molesting boys in another parish.

An initial statement on the matter issued earlier this month by the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising placed full responsibility for the decision to allow the priest to resume his duties on Cardinal Ratzinger’s deputy, the Rev. Gerhard Gruber.

But the memo, whose existence was confirmed by two church officials, shows that the future pope not only led a meeting on Jan. 15, 1980, approving the transfer of the priest, but was also kept informed about the priest’s reassignment.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36048041/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/



All this while the Catamite Church has no problem dictating to everyone else how to live.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:14 AM
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1. Time for the Pope to step down
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 05:15 AM by SpiralHawk
No honor, no cred, no frikkin infallibility -- that's for sure. They are acting like Family Values Republicons -- and everyone can see it.

They are just going to continue to hemorage 'believers' --
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:20 AM
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2. The pope molested a priest?
:hide:
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:37 AM
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3. What I don't get
is these believers in an omnipotent god who needs therapy.

Well, we all know the therapy doesn't work, but why doesn't their god step in? I can only come to one conclusion: They KNOW there is no god.


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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:51 AM
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4. 'Complicit': participating in a crime

Then again, you could include 'Conspiracy': secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:07 AM
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6. Abetting is one of the possible ways one could rightly qualify as complicit, helping
one avoid the police is a form of abetting. The Pope apparently was complicit.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:51 AM
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5. Third thread on this...
That being said, it's time to shut this global child-molestation ring down.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:27 AM
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7. I believe each approach to a pedophile priest anywhere in the world was cleared at the time
through the then current Pope. Seeking guidance from those higher up and obeying are big principles in training of religious in a hierarchical system.

If any federal administration had courage, there'd be RICO prosecutions.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:07 AM
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8. This story will not go away, but the Church sure is trying to make it
go away.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:33 PM
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19. you are right!
the Catholic Church is sending out literature to Catholics and all you see is pope John Paul II mentioned and in the pictures.

No sign of Ratzi! I believe many parts of the Church have abandoned him. They do not accept him as being the pope.

Ratzi should quit! He is guilty and the Catholic Church and the Vatican know it!! :mad:


:dem:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:46 PM
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20. Yep. Spokesperson on national news was livid. claimed this was piling on pope.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:21 AM
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9. And these child molesters are STILL above the law.
How dare the Conference of Catholic Bishops try to force their sick and warped views on us when these same sick freaks shuffle child molesting priests from parish to parish.

When will these molesters and their sympathizers be indicted, tried, convicted and jailed for what they did?
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:42 AM
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10. Those of us who lived through the Nixon scandal waited for the smoking gun..
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 07:47 AM by Stuart G
It finally came out. No one believed it would ever come out. But it did.
After 2 years. I remember when, yes, Nixon did offer money to shut up the burglars.
But Nixon said he didn't.



Well, this smoking gun is now out..What will happen now?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:42 AM
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11. Look for the pope to suffer some fatal or debilitating condition if things get too hot
That's why they keep appointing these old dudes. So it won't look too suspicious if they need to do something to get rid of them in order to take the heat off their church.

If the pedophile priest scandal starts to affect their bottom line, the pope better hire a food taster.

I don't know who "they" are, but I'm positive they are running things.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:45 AM
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12. Now would be an excellent to start a conversation about taxing..........
...........ALL the religions in the USA. We need the money, they don't. Tax the motherfuckers.
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4saken Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 08:14 AM
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14. Yes
And let each church re apply individually like any other non profit. But the automatic tax exemption has always been absurd.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:58 AM
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13. This bastard parades about the planet slandering GLBT people
meddling in the laws and cultures of other nations, while he himself is an accessory to vast and horrible child abuse. Who are the people who empower him to do this? Each of them is guilty of what is done to others by these criminals. The RCC goons funded Prop 8, an attack on their neighbors as a distraction from the truth of their own organization. The Club the call the Catholic Church.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 08:31 AM
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15. The RCC is one of the most EVIL organizations on the planet.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 08:42 AM
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16. It Sure Is.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:39 AM
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17. this is why they feel the need to dictate to others how to live sexually
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Meanblogger Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:44 AM
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18. Shut down the vatican
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hayrow Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:50 PM
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21. Now what if Al Quida policy was covering up the raping handicapped children?
Where is the outrage? How can this not be the biggest story of the year. The pope was intimately involved with the most despicable activities imaginable, in addition to being a former soldier in the Nazi army. The pope was at least as involved in covering up and abetting the rape of children in the United States as Iraq ever was involved in terrorist attacks in the U.S.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:59 PM
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22. more accurate
TransferS cleared by criminal pope, priestS raped little children again
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