One dead, five injured in Washington, D.C. mass shooting

[Ian David]

Source: BNO News

UPDATE 1 – One dead, five injured in Washington, D.C. mass shooting
Wednesday, March 31st, 2010 at 12:12 am | BNO News | 3 Comments

WASHINGTON, D.C. (BNO NEWS) — At least one person was killed and five others were injured after a mass shooting in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday, officials said.

The D.C. Metropolitan Police Department said officers responded to the 4000 block of South Capitol Street SE after a 911 call came in at 7.27 p.m. local time. The DC Fire and Emergency Medical Services said ‘numerous’ EMS units were on scene and said a Medevac helicopter had been requested.

A police spokesman said it was not clear if there were any suspects after the shooting, which happened on the street. “Details are still coming in,” he said.



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[Kltpzyxm]

1. Tea Bagger?

[Mike Daniels]

44. Hardly. In that area of DC shootings are generally an everyday occurance

and were so even when DC was a "gun-free" zone.

[Lost-in-FL]

2. Tea-had? nt

[Rage Inc.]

3. Exactly 29 years after Reagan was shot...

How long before Fox News turns it into a socialist conspiracy?

[Ian David]

5. You think Jodi Foster did it? n/t

[superconnected]

64. Hobbys - ARGUING!

I think I'll put you on ignore now.

[Nancy Waterman]

4. This link seems to have a virus attached

I keep getting notified and the site is blocked on my computer. Be careful.

[elfin]

6. Mac here -- didn't get a notice eom

[Ian David]

8. Me neither. I have a PC, but use very aggressive filtering. n/t

[Ian David]

7. It might be "blocked" because the person has "protected" their Twitter timeline.

It's the editor for BNO News.

[aquart]

9. Huffpo

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/washington-dc-shooting-mu_n_519381.html>

[Ian David]

10. HuffPo is citing the original BNO story as the source .

Although HuffPo does credit a tipster on Twitter as being the original source of the story that BNO followed-up on. http://twitter.com/welovedc/status/11335956666

[my2sense]

11. More info

At least nine people were shot in an apparent drive-by in southeast Washington Tuesday evening.

One person died at the scene in the 4000 block of South Capitol Street and at least eight others have been taken to area hospitals.

D.C. police responded to the shooting report at about 7:30 p.m. and initially found five victims. An AK47-type weapon reportedly was thrown a green sedan that police chased through parts of D.C. and across the Prince George's County line.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Several-Injured-1-Killed-in-Southeast-Shooting-89563742.html

[PreacherCasey]

12. It isn't March 31st yet. WTF is this?

UPDATE 1 – One dead, five injured in Washington, D.C. mass shooting
Wednesday, March 31st, 2010 at 12:12 am | BNO News | 3 Comments

WASHINGTON, D.C. (BNO NEWS) — At least one person was killed and five others were injured after a mass shooting in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday, officials said.

The D.C. Metropolitan Police Department said officers responded to the 4000 block of South Capitol Street SE after a 911 call came in at 7.27 p.m. local time. The DC Fire and Emergency Medical Services said ‘numerous’ EMS units were on scene and said a Medevac helicopter had been requested.

A police spokesman said it was not clear if there were any suspects after the shooting, which happened on the street. “Details are still coming in,” he said.

[jberryhill]

17. GMT

Greenwich Mean Time.

Notice the story says "7.27 p.m. local time".

That's a big clue there.

It most certainly is already Wednesday GMT.

[one_voice]

13. Oh no...

Not another one. Seems to have been quite of few of these in the last year.

Prayers to the victims and their families.

[Ian David]

14. JUST IN- CNN confirms 7 shot, 1 dead in DC on 4000 block of South Capitol Street.

JUST IN- CNN confirms 7 shot, 1 dead in DC on 4000 block of South Capitol Street. Sounds like a drive-by type shooting
CNNValencia
Nick Valencia
http://twitter.com/CNNValencia/status/11336953419

[slackmaster]

52. Gang-bangers shooting at other gang-bangers

Nothing to see here.

[cyndensco]

15. Look at the dateline both in the OP and at link.

Wednesday, March 31st at 12:12 am. I could see someone getting the date incorrect or the time incorrect, but both?

[jberryhill]

16. What time is it in London?

The source is British.

Yes, when it is Tuesday evening in DC, it is Wednesday night there.

The earth is round and it spins.

Actually, GMT is the preferred time for time-neutral event reporting. For clarity, the story refers to "7.27 p.m. local time". In other words, the time on the dateline is not "local time".

[defendandprotect]

18. "Guns don't kill people ...." ---

[proteus_lives]

20. It's true.

I doubt the firearm decided to do a drive-by.

[defendandprotect]

22. What's true is that we need "gun free zones" . . . like all over the planet!!

[shedevil69taz]

30. how exactly would we go about that?

You'll have to convince everyone that its not really a civil right for them to own them (with a few restrictions) and a lot of people get a little concerned when you talk about striping them of rights guaranteed in the Constitution.

[defendandprotect]

36. How did we manage it pre the GOP/NRA "make America violent campaign"

Believe it or not, we actually have a past in America of not having everyone armed.

No -- you don't have to convince everyone they deserve a WMD because they're a citizen.

Rather, you need to let them see how much less safe we are all when we are armed.

Yes, it's hard to miss that the right wing gun owners are heavy into intimidation and

threats -- they are the bullying sort. "Don't Tread on Me!"

Like every other right wing push for an insanity, this one will bring more violence.



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Meanwhile, the farce of the 2nd amendment is just that -- farce -- as at least one former

SC Justice has said.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

An opening clause . . . not only based on a "militia" but well-"regulated."



This is also interesting ...

"English history and common law
The concept of a universal militia originated in England.<7><8><9> The requirement that subjects keep and bear arms for military duty<10><11><12><13> dates back to at least the 12th century when King Henry II, in the Assize of Arms, obligated all freemen to bear arms for public defense. King Henry III required certain subjects between the ages of fifteen and fifty (including non-land-owning subjects) to bear arms. The reason for such a requirement was that without a regular army and police force (which was not established until 1829), it was the duty of certain men to keep watch and ward at night to capture and confront suspicious persons. Every subject had an obligation to protect the king’s peace and assist in the suppression of riots.<14>

The Senate returned to this Amendment for a final time on September 9. A proposal to insert the words

"for the common defense"

next to the words "bear arms" was defeated.

Must have though it was redundant --


In the first couple decades following the adoption of the Second Amendment public opposition to a standing army persisted, a widely held opinion among the minority Anti-Federalists and to a lesser extent among the majority Federalists.<70>





Abolitionist Lysander Spooner, commenting on bills of rights, stated that the object of all bills of rights is to assert the rights of individuals against the government and that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms was in support of the right to resist government oppression, as the only security against the tyranny of government lies in forcible resistance to injustice, for injustice will certainly be executed, unless forcibly resisted.<79> Spooner's theory provided the intellectual foundation for John Brown and other radical abolitionists who believed that arming slaves was not only morally justified, but entirely consistent with the Second Amendment.<80> An express connection between this right and the Second Amendment was drawn by Lysander Spooner who commented that a "right of resistance" is protected by both the right to trial by jury and the Second Amendment.<81>

The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) defines the phrase To bear arms as "to serve as a soldier, do military service, fight."


In late-eighteenth-century parlance, bearing arms was a term of art with an obvious military and legal connotation. ... As a review of the Library of Congress's data base of congressional proceedings in the revolutionary and early national periods reveals, the thirty uses of 'bear arms' and 'bearing arms' in bills, statutes, and debates of the Continental, Confederation, and United States' Congresses between 1774 and 1821 invariably

occur in a context exclusively focused on the army or the militia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


This is an aside -- but clearly, the rise of the right has brought the desire for the gun --

and gun profit.

I. The Politics Of Interpreting The Second Amendment
To put it mildly, the Second Amendment is not at the forefront of constitutional discussion, at least as registered in what the academy regards as the venues for such discussion — law reviews, 13 casebooks, 14 and other scholarly legal publications. As Professor Larue has recently written, "the second amendment is not taken seriously by most scholars." 15

Both Laurence Tribe 16 and the Illinois team of Nowak, Rotunda, and Young 17 at least acknowledge the existence of the Second Amendment in their respective treatises on constitutional law, perhaps because the treatise genre demands more encyclopedic coverage than does the casebook. Neither, however, pays it the compliment of extended analysis. Both marginalize the Amendment by relegating it to footnotes; it becomes what a deconstructionist might call a "supplement" to the ostensibly "real" Constitution that is privileged by discussion in the text. 18 Professor Tribe's footnote appears as part of a general discussion of congressional power. He asserts that the history of the Amendment "indicate that the central concern of framers was to prevent such federal interferences with the state militia as would permit the establishment of a standing national army and the consequent destruction of local autonomy." 19 He does note, how ever, that "the debates surrounding congressional approval of the second amendment do contain references to individual self-protection as well as to states' rights," but he argues that the qualifying phrase "'well regulated" makes any invocation of the Amendment as a restriction on state or local gun control measures extremely problematic." 20 Nowak, Rotunda, and Young mention the Amendment in the context of the incorporation controversy, though they discuss its meaning at slightly greater length. 21 They state that "he Supreme Court has not determined, at least not with any clarity, whether the amendment protects only a right of state governments against federal interference with state militia and police forces... or a right of individuals against the federal and state government." 22
http://www.constitution.org/mil/embar2nd.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[shedevil69taz]

53. this just in

Record numbers of people have permits to carry concealed weapons across the US and the rate of violent crime is down.

Rather, you need to let them see how much less safe we are all when we are armed.

So that statement would be rather hard to prove to the population as a whole and convince everyone that the Supreme Court ruled wrongly in 2008 in DC vs Heller, and that the 2nd ammendment should be ignored as the lower part of your post suggests or repealed altogether.

Many gun owning CCWing democrats like myself as well as all the "intimidating right wing gun owners" together outnumber those that would see that right taken from us, and would oppose such an action. As of yet you and people like you have yet to provide strong enough evidence to support your position. So if you really would like the country to take that right from its people I suggest you get to work on changing our minds.

[defendandprotect]

57. Obviously gun woundings have only risen . . . and what are the now $38,000 per shot?

Interesting story also about Stupak . . .

Evidently he was pro-gun, until his son committed suicide with a gun!

THEN he moved toward gun control --

I guess it depends on how much distance you have from the statistics!

[shedevil69taz]

59. Given up already?

My uncle committed suicide with a gun, and it didn't move me toward gun control.

Anecdotal evidence does not make a very good argument. Neither do baseless claims about the number of gun wounds rising.

[defendandprotect]

60. I guess only humans are moved by the deaths of their loved ones . . .!!

[X_Digger]

61. "Obviously gun woundings have only risen"? Not quite..

See FBI UCR & BJS

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/2009prelimsem/index.html

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/

[proteus_lives]

39. "Gun free zones."

A criminal's paradise.

No thanks, it's painfully obvious what a bad idea they are.

[Mike Daniels]

45. Uhh. That area of DC was pretty violent even when DC was a gun free zone

Odds are that a criminal element was involved on the part of the shooter and/or some of the victims.

[slackmaster]

51. Except of course for guns used by government employees

In other words, a global police state.

[one_voice]

19. I'm reading

that 4 officers were injured in car chase of suspect.

Read it on Huff Po on the twitter feed.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/washington-dc-shooting-mu_n_519381.html

[my2sense]

21. Update

From Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/30/washington-dc-shooting-mu_n_519381.html?view=print

[MountainLaurel]

23. From the Wash Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/30/AR2010033003800.html?hpid=dynamiclead

It looks like there's a DC government service center at that corner, for residents seeking public assistance. The Post has had several recent articles about the conditions at those places: the need is so great, and the service centers are understaffed.

[Roland99]

24. Trying to refrain from speculation at this point.......

I know some want to jump to a Terrorist Party member. Could be a domestic violence case. Could be someone rejected for assistance. Could be just totally random.

Too early to tell.

[Liberal_in_LA]

40. 3 dead, 9 shot last I read. Terrible

[Hawaii Hiker]

41. NYT is reporting 3 dead

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/03/31/us/AP-US-Multiple-Shootings-DC.html?_r=1&hp

[FailureToCommunicate]

25. Too many guns (too many AK-47's)! We pray for the day the NRA leaves D.C.

And the halls of Congress.

[pjt7]

26. Why are they posting something that

hasn't happened yet?

It's not Wed.

[DissedByBush]

31. But DC has such strong gun laws

This couldn't have happened.

Of course it does.

The cities with the strongest gun laws tend to be where the most shootings are.

I'm not surprised.

[-..__...]

33. "We pray for the day the NRA leaves D.C."

Not gonna happen as long as there's work to be done and the Brady Campaign and anti-gun legislators have an ounce of breath left in them.

[FailureToCommunicate]

35. You sound like a broken record on that issue. Sad.

[cowman]

38. So do you

and your friends at the Brady Bunch and the VPC

[depakid]

42. Fact is, with states like Virginia across the border encouraging proliferation

effective firearms legislation will have to be undertaken on a national level... and sooner or later you'll see that, though it'll likely take a LOT more violence along with the deaths of law enforcement and high ranking pubic officials before the nation will be ready to regulate responsibly.

[-..__...]

48. We're working on this "effective firearms legislation" thing...

you speak of; although it's highly unlikely what you have in mind.

You see... due to DC's/Fentys playing games with the Supreme Courts ruling, there is still only one FFL in the city that will do business with civilians (to the tune of $125.00 per transfer :wtf:).

Obviously this situation is unacceptable. So... seeing that Fenty and company can't abide by doing the right thing, we're forced to do it for them.

There's an amendment floating around Congress that would break from current federal law and allow DC residents to legally purchase
handguns from neighboring states (VA being one), and legally bring them back into the district without having to pay any exorbitant
transfer fee(s).

Unfortunately... they'll still have to follow DC's bloated and onerous registration process.

Ohhh, and as you've probably guessed by now, we're working on striking that down also.

[depakid]

54. As I said, it's going to take a number of major tragedies

before the nation will say enough is enough to the gun nuts.

Meanwhile, every family murder, cop killing, mass shooting, every incident of workplace gun violence- every tragedy involving kids- and every dispute or argument in a restaurant, bar of or freeway that turns into a gunfight will be blood on your hands, money out of your pocket and a drag on your already failing economy, as you bury and incarcerate more of your citizens.

[Pavulon]

56. You can still get here? This should be a banned site soon. Fight for your rights

before you post from NSW about some shit you have no concept of. These are thug fuckers shooting other thugs. Has nothing to do with real people. Legal gun owners have no interest in this crap.

[-..__...]

46. Sad to you, maybe...

but, it probably should come as no surprise that I'm completely unapologetic and straight forward when it comes
the RKBA and 2nd amendment issues... and I'm hardly the only one.

"Sad" you say? Whatever. You have to admit though that unlike other "broken records" here with their issues, we (gun owners), actually have made progress and get things done. Others should follow our example of success.

[FailureToCommunicate]

49. Sure, you've made "progress" But the progress most here seek -like HCR or workers

rights, etc. doesn't lead to death, permanent disability or shattered lives...

[hack89]

63. But our progress may have led to lower levels of violent crime

do you have any idea why historic levels of gun ownership have coincided with historic low levels of violent crime? You certainly cannot make the argument that more guns equals more violence - history and the facts are against you.

[Pavulon]

55. Yeah, that will stop gang bangers. They are all in the NRA. word?(nt)

[Faygo Kid]

27. That's a tough part of the city. I doubt that this one is political.

More likely drug and/or gang related. Sad to say, but that's not idle speculation in today's urban America. Too many guns and too few opportunities.

[bigworld]

29. Yeah this is a gang / drug deal gone south

[defendandprotect]

37. 'Cause we need the Drug War about as much as we need guns . . !!

We, too, can be Mexico . . . !!

[AngryAmish]

28. I blame Bush.

[Mz Pip]

32. I blame whoever

pulled the trigger.

[Dinger]

34. A Group From My School Was There Today

And I was not able to reach them. I gotta go . .

[Macoy]

43. Outlaw Guns

The people in DC need to wake up and ban guns. Only by outlawing guns can we be safe.

:sarcasm:


Macoy

[jberryhill]

47. Doing What? Visiting Al's Check Cashing?

This is nowhere near where any school group would visit.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=4000+s.+capitol+st.,+washington+dc&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=4000+S+Capitol+St+SE,+Washington,+District+of+Columbia,+20032&ll=38.831024,-77.007626&spn=0.001408,0.004823&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.831024,-77.007627&panoid=8b2EGvSkEntOTK_V_NH3iA&cbp=11,276,,2,1.32

[Dinger]

50. They Were At The Capitol

They're on their way back. They're fine. Long way from here, and I don't know D.C. Excuse me if I was worried.

[caitxrawks]

58. ughhhhhhh goddammit.

So sad :(

[struggle4progress]

62. DC crowd sprayed with bullets had been to funeral

By NAFEESA SYEED (AP) – 10 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A crowd sprayed with bullets in a drive-by that killed four and wounded five had just returned from the funeral of man slain nearby and a 20-year-old is suspected in both shootings, according to authorities trying to prevent retaliation on Wednesday.

Two men and a 14-year-old boy accused of driving the minivan from which the bullets were fired were charged with first-degree murder in Tuesday night's shooting, the worst in D.C. in at least 16 years. One other person who was in the van was not caught, court documents said.

One of the suspects, Orlando Carter, also has been charged with second-degree murder in the March 22 death of Jordan Howe, whose funeral was earlier that day. On March 23, Carter was shot in the head and shoulder hours after his brother was charged in Howe's death, court documents said.

Assistant Police Chief Peter Newshan said at a news conference that by finding out if there are beefs between two neighborhood groups he called crews, police hope to stop paybacks. Crews are more loosely affiliated than gangs, he said ...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jdqGC3i31E5UfWu0IBk-pCSzmUyQD9EQ1MNG0

[slackmaster]

65. Crews, gangs, whatever

At least they aren't a militia.