Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Men sentenced over Whizzinator, a device to beat drug tests

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:50 PM
Original message
Men sentenced over Whizzinator, a device to beat drug tests
Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A California man today was sentenced to six months in federal prison for running a company that sold a male prosthetic called the Whizzinator that helped men cheat on drug tests.

Gerald W. Wills, 67, of Los Angeles, sold the device and a product called Number 1 that could be used by either men or women, along with a synthetic urine to fill the devices.

Mr. Wills' since-disbanded company, Puck Technology Inc., of Signal Hill, Calif., advertised the devices on the Internet as a way for pilots, truck drivers and others whose safety is regulated by the U.S. Department of Transportation to beat drug tests.

The Web site even included testimonials from those who used it.

Mr. Wills' partner, Robert D. Catalano, 65, of Huntington Beach, Calif., was sentenced Tuesday to three years of probation.



Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10098/1048872-84.stm



Gee I feel so much safer that this dangerous man is in federal prison. :sarcasm: Reminds me of Tommy Chong's going to prison for selling bongs!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. and Don Blankenship walks free
etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I wonder if he can sleep at night.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. He's got a nice soft pillow of money -- he's doing fine. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:56 PM
Response to Original message
2. So much for free enterprise n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:57 PM
Response to Original message
4. What happened to the free enterprise system?
Way to fuck with America's entrepreneurs!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. welcome to creeping federal power
all those who love stronger federal power, anti-bullying laws, and all sorts of creeping federalism reap what they sow

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Oh sure give the me the Libertarian argument...
The problem isn't creeping federal power... its misdirected federal power. If the justice department were as focused at prosecuting the engineers of the recent financial crisis or the war criminals that got off scott free then I wouldn't have any issue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. no, the underlying problem is creeping federal power
they are prosecuting medical marijuana clinics under a bastardized interpretation of the commerce clause, the same clause that has justified all other sorts of creeping federal power, for example

but people here for example applauded the misuse of overbroad silly laws to prosecute lori drew, cause she's like a bad person and stuff. so, creeping federal law enforcement is ok in those cases (and of course it got overturned as i predicted it would)

we are one of the few nations w/o a conventional federal police force. that's a GOOD thing imo. it makes us different, and imo better

but over the years, federal agencies like FBI, DEA, etc. have expanded their scope, laws constantly expand federal power in law enforcement as do stupid misinterpretations of the commerce clause.

advocates of creeping federal law enforcement (like the rah rah anti-bullying laws) reap what they sow.

once govt. expands its scope, it almost never voluntarily pulls back

and we are left with the stretched skin and then the body fills to expand that void.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:00 PM
Response to Original message
6. Not to be indelicate or anything, but...
...there seems to be a glut of strap-on sexual prosthetics on the market today that could just as easily get smacked by the Hammer of Justice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:05 PM
Response to Original message
7. He's gotta be wicked pissed-off. Don't dick around with this. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. LOL!....He shouldn't have tried to go with the Flow.
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #7
22. I bet he's a real prick when he's mad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
24. Weeny. - Peter Griffin. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:17 PM
Response to Original message
8. Failure in marketing
He should have had a different marketing angle. Perhaps a medical one such as a strategy to help individuals get over stage fright: "Practice with the whizonator at home so when you need to go with someone watching, it will be a whiz!!" Or whatever. The guy can't help it if people did something else illegal with his product.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. I agree. It could be sold as a fully functional marital aid with a choice of fluids.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. www.goldenshowerondemand.com (?)
--imm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
9. Maybe he could have been more
creative on how he marketed the device.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
10. yet another example of creeping federal power, overbroad federal laws, etc.
see: "three felonies a day"

perfectly legal under our (my) state's laws.

but the feds? forget it

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
12. Thanks, Mr. Wills, for your service. You were of great help to me.
That's all I'm sayin'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
14. I wonder how he thought of the company name? lol.
He's a scam artist, this is what happens to em.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:08 PM
Response to Original message
18. Made me think of the Stadium Pal essay by David Sedaris. Video below
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:08 PM
Response to Original message
19. The URINATOR!!
This is advertised to protect someone from a predisposed genetic condition???

Anyway, the URINATOR works! I have two friends that have passed multiple drug test with this device!

http://www.urinator.com/

...In case anyone wanted to know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Brilliant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 08:10 AM
Response to Original message
23. Ugh, creeping Totalitarianism.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
25. Damn Mary Beth Buchanan's Office again
Same Federal Attorney who tried Tommy Chong. She's running against Blue Dog Jason Altmire who voted No on Health Care for Congress this year.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:29 AM
Response to Original message
26. Why? this is stupid. My buddy bought one a few months ago.
It was branded as an alternative sex device for people who like golden showers but don't have someone to pee on them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 10:31 AM
Response to Original message
27. The guy is from San Pedro -- which is in my general area of South Bay.
This War on Drugs bullshit sucks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 01:22 AM
Response to Original message
28. So a device sold for the specific purpose of circumventing the law...
...AND compromising public safety should be permitted to be freely sold?

Should we only prosecute drunk/drug affected drivers/pilots/helmsmen AFTER the schoolbus full of kids is nudged off the cliff, the plane falls out of the air, or the 200,000 tons of oil hits the beach?

Should speed limits only be advisory, with people prosecuted only when it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that the
"accident" would not have happened if the driver hadn't been travelling faster than speed X?

The (apparently) standard American attitude that personal convenience comes before the greater good is exactly the sort of attitude that enabled the attrocities of SE Asia and the clusterfuck that is happening in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Anyone who doesn't think this prosecution is a good thing should also shut the fuck up about the avoidance of regulations which lead to the recent mine disaster.

If lying and cheating to avoid due consequences for ones actions is fine for the individual then so to should it be fine for corporations. (Even without invoking the ludicrous fiction of corporate personhood.)

The above way of thinking is of course absolutely ludicrous. And yet time and time again, I see the same people here arguing in one discussion that corporate entities should be regulated to the point where there is almost no discression permitted in operational matters, and then in the next that individuals should be permitted to do entirely as they please and be punished IF AND ONLY IF their actions cause actual harm to others.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:09 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. Prosecute people and corporations for crimes, yes. For trying to be clever, no.
The grey area between the two is why there is prosecutorial discretion.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:03 AM
Response to Reply #29
31. Soap on a rope, sold for the purpose of avoiding surprises in communal showers...
...is/(was in its time) clever.

A silicone cock sheath/extension which can be turned to the purpose of circumventing the law is not in and of itself illegal. Selling it with the specifically advertised purpose of circumventing the law is.

Gun shops do not advertise guns on their mother in-law stopping power. Pivot does not go to Al Qiaeda for testemonials on the explosive qualities of their amonium mitrate. And Trojan does not target its ads for the responsible rapist market.

Got it? Or do I need to use this Stanley hammer to blugeon the concept into your thick Amurikan skull?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tabasco_Dave Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. Radar Detectors have a purpose of circumventing the law
They are advertised as such, shouldn't the manufactures go to jail as well? Thousands die each year because of speed related accidents.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:05 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. Where I come from possessing, selling and importing radar detectors is in fact illegal.
We can't do much about manufacturers operating outside our jurisdiction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:51 AM
Response to Original message
33. My take? This guy deserved jail
He was not smoking a joint in the privacy of his own home. He was marketing a device that would enable a user to hide the fact that he/she was under the influence of a drug while operating a vehicle. That act puts everyone else on the road, or in the air, at risk.

If you want to get high at home and sit on the couch and veg, so be it. The moment you start the engine on a car, truck, or plane, you are endangering me and those I care about.

If someone using this device was able to fool a drug test, which exists to protect the public at large, then the situation calls for action.

This is not a case of free enterprise, this is a case of marketing a product which puts others at risk.

It enabled people to do something incredibly stupid. Endanger others.

If you operate a vehicle you don't do it while drinking or using drugs. End of story.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. Bullshit
These people aren't toking on the job,they are toking after work instead of having a martini.Not all, but most...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. It's not "toking" they're worried about
The only individual I know personally who got fired from a truck driving job wasn't a pot smoker--he came up hot on a Meth test, and when they searched the cab of his tractor they found thirty grams of meth in it.

Now think about that: This is a guy running around in a forty-ton vehicle with an ounce of crank in his silverware drawer. How many things are wrong with this picture?

I read another article on this case...apparently the rubber-dick man had an epiphany when he read the news of the Boston T crash. When it happened, the fake dick guy said, "please, God, i hope this person didn't use my product to beat a drug test."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 03:33 AM
Response to Original message
35. Completely ridiculous.
It is not against the law to sell fake dicks. Not even ones that can be used to pass drug tests.

So guns would suddenly be illegal if someone advertised that they could be used to shoot people? How stupid would laws like that be?

This is a complete infringement on that defendants freedom of speech.

I am shocked that a conservative like me is more aghast at this travesty than most so called liberals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 07:09 PM
Response to Original message
36. More of that change we can believe in
In some ways, Obama's DOJ compares quite "favorably" with Bush II.

And considering that it's a Democratic administration run by a "constitutional law professor" it's become far more reprehensible.[/i[.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. This is a change I CAN believe in!
This man was not advertising the Whizzinator as a way for a pot smoker to get a job packing out soup at Walmart. He was selling it as a way for airline pilots to smoke all the crack they want and still fly 400 people cross-country. And remember, Bush thought this was just fine--you KNOW the DEA has a subscription to High Times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 04:05 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC