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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:37 AM
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'Save the Ta-Tas' cancer-awareness T-shirts land Mona Shores High students in hot water
Source: THE MUSKEGON CHRONICLE

NORTON SHORES -- About two dozen students wore pink T-shirts to Mona Shores High School on Wednesday to raise awareness of breast cancer and to support one of their mothers, who is battling the disease.

School administrators made them turn the shirts inside out.

The students' hearts were in the right place; it was their choice of words that was objectionable, administrators said.

The shirts read: "Save the Ta-Tas."



Read more: http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2010/04/save_the_ta-tas_cancer-awarene.html



Wicked do-gooder children.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:41 AM
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1. Hahahahahaha.
Clever idea. Too bad we have such puritanical attitudes towards sex.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:42 PM
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20. I lived in The South of France for a while.
Right on the Riviera. Where, I am sanguine to report, the sight of the unfettered female breast is not unknown.

I can say that the French of that area find our societal horror at the mere thought of that part of the female anatomy being exposed funnier than a monkey fucking a bowling ball.

As they should.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:22 PM
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30. Barely ... can ...
type ... through ... the ... gales ... of ... uproarious ... laughter! :spray:

Funner than a monkey fucking a bowling ball - what a hoot! :rofl:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:25 PM
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41. Our Gunny used...
"You look like a monkey trying to fuck a football."

George Carlin would approve of either.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:15 PM
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40. Although our Puritanical ways are sad...
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:15 PM by Socal31
I will take that over the Xenophobia of the French any day.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:49 AM
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2. So tiresome.
On both sides, really.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:51 AM
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3. It's a cute and official slogan
for BC awareness.

But, probably not suitable for school, though. :P

We saw anothern one out last night: Save2ndBase.com

:rofl:

Fiance thought that was just hilarious. :D
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:41 AM
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13. I don't know why it shouldn't be suitable for high school..
The majority of female high school students have fully developed breasts.. nothing like perpetuating self-esteem issues for females, by pretending parts of their bodies shouldn't be noticed or referenced.. America..what a country!

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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:50 PM
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33. Yeah, I agree
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 07:51 PM by Cal Carpenter
It's just 'Ta-Tas', not 'super-sexy love pillows' or something for pete's sake.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:05 PM
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34. I think referecing them with the term "breasts" would have been acceptable to tptb
It's all about the words and their forbidden use. Imagine the horror at the "n" word being used to reference Black History Month. NWA used the term for the same shock effect that the pink t-shirt's use of ta-ta-s does, but even the rap industry found it prudent to turn their name into an acronym.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:12 PM
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29. i just saw a bumpersticker not 10 min ago that read "feel your boobies"
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:01 AM
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4. Reminds me of a concert I helped publicize
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:05 AM by rocktivity
A club promoter was so relieved that his girlfriend's breast lump was benign, he put together a concert with the net proceeds going to breast cancer awareness. He named it "Rock For Racks!" At least his heart was in the right place...if you pardon expression...

:headbang:
rocktivity
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:12 AM
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5. I can't see any objection to the slogan.
It's an innocuous one, and it's associated with a very real breast cancer awareness organization. Someone at that school is a little nose-in-the-airish, it seems to me.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:20 AM
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6. Oy. Buncha prudes.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:31 AM
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7. Save The Cojones
:)
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:32 AM
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8. How about the women attached to the ta-ta's?
This campaign is just stupid. Women without their breasts are nothing?

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:36 AM
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9. How do you get that from "save the Ta-Tas?"
Seems a bit of a stretch, frankly.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:51 PM
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23. Not at all -- I get it, and I can be pretty darn dense. nt
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:12 AM
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44. That Was My
first, gut response when I saw my first ta-tas bumper sticker? Huh? Breats with no person attached? Even with whales you save the WHOLE WHALE, not just a body part. I would have thought the same thing if I saw a "Save the Arms" bumbersticker.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:45 PM
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36. The idea is very, well, wrong. Also, unrealistic.
I don't know a single woman with breast cancer who was able to "save" the breast(s).
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:09 AM
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43. I Hate
this campaign. For the reason you mention and also because I hate, hate, hate childish nicknames being attached to body parts. Whenever I see the bumper sticker I picture this pair of disembodied "ta-tas" sitting there crying for help. Forget the person, save the breasts.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 07:19 PM
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47. merlot, women are of no value in this society, didn't you catch the memo?
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 07:21 PM by pitohui
without our funbags we are NOTHING

the kids are just reflecting reality and i don't believe in punishing kids for reflecting reality

but to pretend that anyone gives one flying fuck about a woman who has had her breasts -- excuse me, her TA-TAS cut off -- is to lie about reality and to lie abt america

the administrators take "ta-ta's" seriously because at the end of the day it IS serious

there is a poster on this thread who claims he never met a woman w/ breast cancer whose breasts were saved, hmm, ho-kay, whatever, but the fact of the matter is, most of us do know women who have had lumpectomies plus chemo/radiation who are still alive many years later...it's complicated i guess

to say you've never met a woman who survived a lumpectomy is to say something about yourself and how much women trust you, it is not to say something about cancer



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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:36 AM
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10. It seems to belittle a very serious topic
it makes me a little uncomfortable, but not because of the language, but what I consider the inappropriate use of it.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:27 PM
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24. But the shirt does catch one's attention...
and might even lead to a more serious dialog.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:14 AM
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45. Me, Too
as someone who has had several scares. I'm telling you (maybe you all ready know) ta-tas are the least of your worries.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:37 AM
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11. Oh for Christ's sake.
What's next--getting sent to the principal's office for saying "poo poo?" This is high school, right?
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:41 AM
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12. I think it's a cute slogan.
One of the teachers at my kids' school has that bumper sticker.
Breasts are part of the human body. Big deal!
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ChadwickHenryWard Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:52 AM
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14. OH THE HUGHMANITY!
Breasts mentioned in public? Think about the children!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:29 PM
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25. ...
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:05 PM
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15. so I would guess Canada's BoobyBall is off limits too
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 12:06 PM by azurnoir
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:15 PM
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16. It's not cute at all. And saying so isn't puritanical.
This kind of stuff just reduces us all to 12-year-old boys obsessed with female boobies. Sends a pretty interesting message, doesn't it: We can't get some people to care about breast cancer without appealing to the Beavis and Butt-Head side of them.

It objectifies women by implying that breast cancer is only bad because it attacks a sexual part of their bodies that "nobody" wants to lose and "everybody" has an interest in preserving. Who cares about the woman herself, or saving her life (even if she has to lose her breasts)? No, the important thing is saving her titties! Yet, oddly enough, you don't see that happening with other sexualized female body parts. I have yet to see a vaginal cancer awareness campaign that advocates "Save the Boxes!" And for men? Forget it. There will never be a "Save the Dicks" campaign for penile cancer.

Besides, we already have enough "breast cancer awareness." Anyone who's not aware of the existence of breast cancer by now has their head up their ass. What we NEED is prevention and cure, not more vaguely defined "awareness."

Also, enough with the pink shit. Breast cancer isn't pretty. Nothing associated with it should be pretty either. People don't make and sell pretty shit to support lung cancer awareness, or colon cancer awareness, or brain cancer awareness. Why do it for breast cancer?

Maybe if we got rid of all the pretty pink ribbons, roses, feminine girlie/mama imagery and that shit, we'd finally stop being tolerant of the continued existence of this cancer, and stop having to have such "fun and amusing" "awareness campaigns" and fund-raisers for it at all.

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:33 PM
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18. These are high school kids, for God's sake.
What do you want from them--ideological perfection according to Berry Cool?

And you know, I've had two women in my family diagnosed with breast cancer, and both were extremely happy not to have lost their breasts. Yes, everybody understands that saving women's lives is hands-down the most important thing, but at least in my second-hand experience it's also a big relief if one can avoid having parts of one's body chopped off, sexual or otherwise.

On one thing we agree: time for a cure.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:38 PM
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19. Why do you hate sex?
:sarcasm:

Seriously, thank you for your profound post. Breast cancer is a serious issue, and I don't find anything humorous about it.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 01:51 PM
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22. Well said. nt
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:02 PM
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28. Well said, and thank you.
If this country spent as much on prevention and on research looking into the environmental causes of breast cancer as it did on pink crap made in China...well, things would look very different.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:49 PM
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37. Ahem. Two points.
Firstly) men have ta-ta's too, and
Secondly) also get breast cancer.

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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:33 PM
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17. The awareness among youths is encouraging,
but more class is in order.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:23 PM
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31. It's a very conservative area, too.
I grew up 45 miles to the north.

It's great that these girls actually are aware of the problem, but you are right. More class was in order.

DU is so preditable sometimes.

I find myself spending less and less time here.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:43 PM
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32. I hear you. If you say anything critical about anything sexual,
you are labeled a "prude". It's gotten so damn old here.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:52 AM
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42. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
My comment is no reflection on you, though!
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 12:51 PM
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21. One of my female colleagues is in a permanent snit about "Save the Tatas" too
She out on the fringe, even for me. Her basic position is that is that womens issues are off limits to men, and that breast cancer is a womens issue and therefore off limits to men.

I pointed out to her that breast cancer is also found in men. Also as a man who's wife died of breast cancer and who has several daughters, I had at least as big of a dog in the hunt as she did. She was not pleased with my response, but she quit being so noisy...
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:32 PM
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26. god, that is as silly as saying...
that white people shouldn't have participated in the Civil Rights Movement. She sounds a bit of a loon.
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mainstreetonce Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 02:38 PM
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27. dress code
I don't know if this school had a dress code , but in my opinion they should have and the only dress code that works regarding shirts is "no writing permitted on tee shirts"
The school should not be put in the position of deciding if the slogan is offensive or not.

I personally think this slogan is fine, but others would not and if the school allowed it, other shirts with "ta ta s" might appear. It is a no win situation for the school to have make such decisions.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:47 PM
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46. They do have a dress code and here it is:
Shirts may not have designs or words that display, contain or promote drugs, alcohol, tobacco,
violence, and offensive language or contain sexual innuendoes.

Found here: http://www.monashores.net/downloads/high_school/student_handbook_20082009.pdf
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:04 PM
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35. i understand that it's supposed to be fun, but don't some women need to remove their breasts ?
or breast to deal with the cancer ?

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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:07 PM
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38. Not offensive.
Don't like their style? Too bad.

The school can have a policy where no writing at all is permitted on shirts. I'm fine with that. But they cannot have a policy where some writing is permitted and others are not. That is a violation of first amendment rights.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:11 PM
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39. More evidence of bonehead stupidity in the administrative classes. nt
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