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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:49 PM
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Dems accuse GOP of 'lies' on bill
Source: MSNBC

From NBC's Ken Strickland, Sarah Blackwill, and Mark Murray
Since the financial regulatory debate began, Democratic leaders have accused Republicans of misrepresenting the facts about their bill. But in a news conference today, Senate Democratic leaders turned up the heat with a video presentation of Republican "lies" and alleged mischaracterizations.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, and Sens. Dick Durbin and Chuck Schumer played clips showing Republican statements and speeches about the reform bill. One clip featured Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell saying that "this bill not only allows for taxpayer bailouts; it institutionalizes them."

Responded Durbin: "So if you listen to this comment by the minority leader of the United States Senate, you wonder if he's read the bill -- particularly if he's read the section between pages 110 and 295, which is entitled orderly liquidation authority. Liquidation. Liquidation is the end of the bank, not a bailout that it can continue in business."

Durbin continued, "No matter how many times the minority leader says endless bailout, the fact is the clear language of this legislation says just the opposite. What he's reading to us is not from the bill. It's from a memo prepared by (GOP pollster) Frank Luntz, prepared even before this bill was written."

Reid added: "The Republican leadership has so far decided to be against reform, to in effect kill reform. They're betting on failure again. They decided the best way to stop us from cleaning up Wall Street is by polluting the debate with myths and mischaracterizations."

Read more: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/22/2277190.aspx
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 01:58 PM
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1. keep pounding this home.........n/t
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:00 PM
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2. No kidding. Might as well accuse a bull of being full of shit (nt)
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:01 PM
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3. K&R
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EXneoCON Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:02 PM
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4. About time...
the leadership grow a collective spine and start standing up to the rethugs. Grayson and a few other brave souls can't do it alone.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:03 PM
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5. Yes!
More from the article in the OP:

And Schumer said: "On the health-care bill, we allowed too many lies to get out there without rebuttal, because we thought they were so obviously untrue. But we've learned our lesson. And the minute these things come out of the mouths of some of our Republican colleagues, we rebut them. And we rebut them again and again. And fortunately, these lies are not taking hold.


So glad to see the Dem leadership fighting back!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:11 PM
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6. They should have Jon Stewart help them with their videos!
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 02:12 PM by Democat
Then hit every TV show on the planet to promote the Republican "lies". And they must say "lies" every chance they get. No backing down this time and maybe the message of Republican liars will stick.
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:24 PM
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7. Nice!
Just keep ramming the facts out there. Even the morons will get it at some point. When the Pugs shout an absurdity, counter it with fact. Those that can't be persuaded won't anyway. Some may. I've been there. I've been converted. Fortunately I caught on before the recent election. Others will lag, but some day they will see it. No one is perfect, and a lot of politicians on both sides are bought and sold. But if we hold them to their campaign speeches, and allow the facts of what the Dems stand for (we care about others, it's the "US"A, not the "ME"SA), a 'decent' human being will stand with the left.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:51 PM
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11. Just stating the facts not enough
It's time to get tough and call the lies, every time. Don't mince words - say it out loud - McConnell is lying and he knows it. Boehner is lying when he says xxxxx and he knows it. Repuglicans meeet with Wall St. and come out firing against financial reform is truth and should be stated over and over. Calling a lie a lie is the only way to even possibly get the message through when all the big money is against it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:26 PM
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8. Can't these guys be officially reprimanded for lying? Something on the record? nt
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:08 PM
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12. Well, that is what elections are for...
However, the Republicans know this country is packed full of folks who will believe the unbelievable so they know they can say whatever it is they want with little repercussions!

The Democrats have the hardest job because they are trying to do what is right and to understand this folks have to THINK! And after the health care debate it is obvious most Americans lack basic critical thinking skills. SAD BUT TRUE!!!!

I figure once we can get those who accept that all life on planet earth evolved to 50% or above then we will know this country is headed in the correct direction...Until then the Republicans will have the easier job of misleading a populace that lacks the ability to really know they are being lied to!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 04:11 PM
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13. I know what ya mean! Check out this post - explains a lot...
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:04 PM
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14. WOW! I just read that book!
Thanks!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:42 PM
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9. Truly inspiring
Watching the Dems grow a pair, right before our eyes! McConnell et al->:yoiks:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 02:45 PM
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10. Ken Strickland is unimpeachable!
Not to mention Sarah and Mark!


:loveya:
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 05:57 PM
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15. "myths and mischaracterizations" K&R!
Edited on Thu Apr-22-10 05:57 PM by Beartracks
That, in a nutshell, is how Republicans campaign, or "debate," or do anything. Apparently, they can't advance their agenda, whatever that is, with the truth. Myths and mischaracterizations are the domain of the part of No.

Edited to say K&R!
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 06:04 PM
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16. Just let everyone read it
It's hard for lies to stand up when the full text of the document is available for anyone with a fourth grade education to read.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 05:39 AM
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17. I guess they can only say this if the president goes first.
Edited on Fri Apr-23-10 05:40 AM by Kablooie
They've never done it before.
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