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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:39 PM
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Germany: Thousands protest neo-Nazis on May Day
Source: The Local

More than ten thousand demonstrators demonstrated against neo-Nazi marches on Saturday across Germany. Around 200 extreme right wingers were detained.

Fearing riots, police across Germany made efforts to separate leftist and neo-Nazi demonstrators in several cities across Germany.

In Berlin, neo-Nazis and people from the far-left spent hours vying for control of May Day demonstration routes through the German capital, although by early evening on Saturday, confrontations had mostly ended peacefully.

Violence, with brawls between leftists and rightists, burning barricades and damage to banks and shops, has been an annual ritual on May Day for more than two decades in Berlin, Hamburg and other German cities.

In Berlin, about 500 of the far-rightists marched through a northern district of the capital, although they were outnumbered by thousands of opponents.

Police had expected around 3,000 neo-Nazis to march, and some 7,000 police were deployed along with a water cannon.

Leftists claimed 10,000 people had turned up to confront the neo-Nazis.



Read more: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100501-26919.html
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 02:35 PM
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1. why do the neo-Nazis inflict themselves on the liberal cities in Germany?
rather than marching in Hamburg and Berlin, they should stay in Munich and Nuremberg, where the local population will be happy with them.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 02:59 PM
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2. The locals in Nuremberg, even though the TRIALS were held there?
Oh wait, a lot of Nazi rallies were held there too.

So I see this as some cities in Germany where the Nazis held much influence still have some racist sentiment like much of the southern United States that was racially segregated 'til the 1960s?
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:28 AM
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8. What are you talking about?
I can't make sense of your post.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:48 PM
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13. My point was: I wonder how the nuremberg locals can still tolerate neo-nazis
Previous poster said about the neo-nazi group: "rather than marching in Hamburg and Berlin, they should stay in Munich and Nuremberg, where the local population will be happy with them."

And the trials of the original Nazis were held in Nuremberg, a city with lots of Nazi activity during the Hitler era.

Doesn't this parallel how there's still some KKK/white nationalist activity down in the southern United States?
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 09:42 PM
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18. Oh, thanks, now I understand.
It's not a matter of tolerating the neo nazis - whenever they decide to march, there are counterprotests, and the neo nazis are vastly outnumbered. The only problem here, same as anywhere else, is that is is nearly impossible to get haters to stop hating.

Given the history of our town, we feel definitely obligated not to give the brown scum a chance.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 03:56 PM
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3. provis99
provis99

Have been like this, like the orginal Nazis, brownshirts of the SA was fighing the communist, sosialist, sosial-democratic and so on for controll of the streets... The nazis of old got into the fight with the liberal city's on purpose and have using this tactic sincet hen... And as it was in the 1920s and 1930s, the street was a battle ground the nazist first finaly won, after Hitler got into power.. And by the way, the fact is that the liberal cities in Germany was never won for the nazis, even when the Down town of Berlin was the powerhouse of the nazi government most germans just go bay, and was not excactly friends of them...

The last couple of decades, the neo-nazis, and the left had been attacing eath other, specially at May day...

Diclotican

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 05:04 PM
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4. They get more attention and upset more people this way.
That's pretty much it, really.
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 11:07 PM
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6. I'm going to try and be polite here.
I'm from Nuremberg, was born and raised here and returned to this town after living in the U.S. for twenty years.

Your entire post screams "I'm ignorant!". It is not only ignorant, but insulting as well. Very obviously, you know absolutely nothing about the sentiments of the population here.

I would elaborate some more, but as I'm typing have realized that anything as pathetically stupid as has been put forth in your post won't be worth the effort on my part.
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 06:36 AM
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7. I replied to your post this morning
and would only like to add that you are an ignorant, pathetic, thoughtless fool.

My city, Nuremberg, has more than many other cities found itself obligated to fight against fascism every step of the way - for obvious reasons. It is a solidly Social-Democratic town. But why should I even find myself in a position to defend what you have no idea about?

And for a dipshit like you to come along and open his big know-nothing trap... Good grief, you make me want to vomit.
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:34 AM
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9. What?
ignorant post:eyes:
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:41 AM
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10. Thanks, amaya.
Ignorant, indeed. That post needs to go down in the DU "Halls of Shame", if there is any such thing.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:53 AM
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11. English is second language--Norwegian poster. Is it just a language barrier?
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:06 AM
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12. No, Diclotian's post from Norway is not the problem at all.
His posts are very thoughtful, despite language barriers.

What has sent me into orbit today is one particularly ignorant and obnoxious post in this thread. I wanted to send a well-worded and thought-out reply, but then realized that with some folks who pen absolutely idiotic drive-by posts, this labor is in vain. I'm still pissed off, though.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:05 PM
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15. Oh, I see now. Sorry, I confused the thread hierarchy. I'm easily confused these days. too much crap
to keep track of what with the terrorist Teabaggers, Wall Street wankers, SCOTUS scum, etc.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 12:56 PM
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14. Uh, Naizism is ILLEGAL in all of germany...
these are very small bands of neo-nazis in Germany, because you will go to jail for expressing it there. It is illegal for a reason, and no one is particularly happy to see these groups marching about and keeping old wounds open.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 05:38 PM
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20. What on earth are you talking about?
Edited on Mon May-03-10 05:38 PM by LeftishBrit
Both Munich and Nuremberg are liberal/left cities, with Social Democratic Party Mayors and city governments.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 06:17 PM
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5. the Tea Baggers of Europe
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:37 PM
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16. Not exactly. Our Tea-baggers pretend not to be racist extremists. I would prefer they be as
up-front about it as the neo-nazis rather than wrapping their vile ideas in the constitution and American flag.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 08:48 PM
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17. I wish I were there. I guess I'll go to Arizona protests instead. n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 05:36 PM
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19. Glad to hear that the neo-Nazis are facing overwhelming opposition!
As I would have expected - but still good to know.
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