BP official: 'We've significantly cut the flow' of oil from damaged rig

[jus_the_facts]

Source: Press-Register

MOBILE, Ala. -- BP has significantly cut the flow of oil leaking from its damaged Deepwater Horizon rig on the Gulf of Mexico sea floor, a company spokesman said this morning.

Childs said the company was still trying to activate a set of shear rams that are designed to seal the well by shearing off the drill pipe. The job is complicated, he said, because it is occurring at depths of more than 5,000 feet.

Read more: http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html

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They HAVE....yet HAVEN'T...YET?! :eyes:

[Webster Green]

1. How?

What's changed?

[jus_the_facts]

5. Wishful thinking... apparently nothing has changed....eom.

[ClarkUSA]

8. Wrong.

'Jeff Childs, a deputy incident commander for BP, said in a briefing with Alabama officials that the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams, helping to clamp the ruptured pipe and block the leaking oil.

"We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Childs said at the Mobile briefing hosted by U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa... Officials also said as BP is preparing a system never tried nearly a mile under water to siphon away the geyser of crude from a blown-out well a mile under Gulf of Mexico waters.

BP officials said they hope the system could collect as much as 85 percent of oil rising from the seafloor.

The plan to lower 74-ton, concrete-and-metal boxes being built to capture the oil and siphon it to a barge waiting at the surface will need at least another six to eight days to get it in place, with weather also a factor.'

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html

[jus_the_facts]

12. WRONG...."Childs said the company was still TRYING....

.....to activate a set of shear rams that are designed to seal the well by shearing off the drill pipe. IF we can stop that oil from pumping, or even slow it down, that's a big step. "

[ClarkUSA]

16. You're cherrypicking. What part of "successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears" do you not get?

:shrug:

[jus_the_facts]

17. Yeah...go ahead and cherry pick the obvious contradiction of the statement....

:eyes:

[ClarkUSA]

18. Have you read the entire article? Go to the link and then tell me there's a contradiction:

MOBILE, Ala. -- BP has significantly cut the flow of oil leaking from its damaged Deepwater Horizon rig on the Gulf of Mexico sea floor, a company spokesman said this morning.

Jeff Childs, a deputy incident commander for BP, said in a briefing with Alabama officials that the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams, helping to clamp the ruptured pipe and block the leaking oil.

"We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Childs said at the Mobile briefing hosted by U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa.

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html

You only included the part which supported your opinion, when in fact, BP really has succeeded in shutting down the annular rams, which is good news. Such cherrypicking is dishonest.

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[Webster Green]

21. There are two sets a rams on these things.

I saw a diagram yesterday. Two annular rams and two shear rams, or something like that. They sit in pairs, one pair atop the other.

If they managed to close a pair of rams, that would be very good news.

I guess that the acoustic shear ram that isn't in use here is something altogether different, in that it is automatically triggered.

[ClarkUSA]

25. They have shut down the annular rams.

MOBILE, Ala. -- BP has significantly cut the flow of oil leaking from its damaged Deepwater Horizon rig on the Gulf of Mexico sea floor, a company spokesman said this morning.

Jeff Childs, a deputy incident commander for BP, said in a briefing with Alabama officials that the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams, helping to clamp the ruptured pipe and block the leaking oil.

"We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Childs said at the Mobile briefing hosted by U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa.

[jus_the_facts]

51. WRONG.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4366358

[ClarkUSA]

60. Um, your own OP source was "WRONG". You'd better check your "facts" next time before posting.

:eyes:

[jus_the_facts]

63. The BP spokesman LIED.... get a clue.

[ClarkUSA]

64. So why are you taking BP's word as the truth now? Round and round you go... don't you get dizzy?

:crazy:

[TransitJohn]

30. Yes, two sets.

The annular rams (pipe rams) close off the annulus (the torus between the cylinder of the cased well and the cylinder of the drill string), and the pipe shears sheer through all (casing, and drill string), sealing the well completely. If they've managed to function the pipe rams, that's good news! The ROV pilots have figured out how under 5000 ft of water, and now should have a much better chance of sealing the well completely.

[ClarkUSA]

10. "the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams..."

'Jeff Childs, a deputy incident commander for BP, said in a briefing with Alabama officials that the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams, helping to clamp the ruptured pipe and block the leaking oil.

"We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Childs said at the Mobile briefing hosted by U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa... Officials also said as BP is preparing a system never tried nearly a mile under water to siphon away the geyser of crude from a blown-out well a mile under Gulf of Mexico waters.

BP officials said they hope the system could collect as much as 85 percent of oil rising from the seafloor.

The plan to lower 74-ton, concrete-and-metal boxes being built to capture the oil and siphon it to a barge waiting at the surface will need at least another six to eight days to get it in place, with weather also a factor.'

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html

[Webster Green]

13. Ah, they're saying thay got the annular rams shut.

I missed that, read too fast.

That would be good news, if true. I don't trust the mutherfuckers though.

[ClarkUSA]

19. Go to the link here and read it yourself:

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html

[Webster Green]

24. Yea, I read too quickly. i changed my reply.

Very good news. Hopefully.

[jus_the_facts]

14. Trying and DOING are two different things.....ant that's a huge IF....

.....Childs said the company was still trying to activate a set of shear rams that are designed to seal the well by shearing off the drill pipe. The to activate a set of shear rams that are designed to seal the well by shearing off the drill pipe. IF we can stop that oil from pumping, or even slow it down, that's a big step. "

You keep leaving that out. :wtf:

[ClarkUSA]

20. I quoted it correctly. Here is the link:

MOBILE, Ala. -- BP has significantly cut the flow of oil leaking from its damaged Deepwater Horizon rig on the Gulf of Mexico sea floor, a company spokesman said this morning.

Jeff Childs, a deputy incident commander for BP, said in a briefing with Alabama officials that the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams, helping to clamp the ruptured pipe and block the leaking oil.

"We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Childs said at the Mobile briefing hosted by U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa.

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html

[jus_the_facts]

29. Trust BP's word all you like....they've lied to minimize this from the beginning....

....this smacks of more disinformation by a corporation with their asses on the line....we'll have to wait and see just how relevent this article becomes.

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[ClarkUSA]

43. lol! Yet you "trust BP's word" enough to cherrypick quotes to form a misleading OP, eh?

So much for "jus the facts". :eyes:

[jus_the_facts]

47. WHO'S LOL'N NOW....and who's been MISLEAD,. EH?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4366358

[ClarkUSA]

58. D'oh! You just proved your own OP source was wrong.

:rofl:

[damntexdem]

26. "We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Hmm.

So, is there also a flow not through the pipe? Remember, shortly before the explosion, Haliburton was pumping in the cement that was supposed to seal around the pipe.

[Dappleganger]

2. Who's the plug?

[Demeter]

3. Sure they have

The "leaks" are all whistleblowers, no doubt.

[aquart]

4. If it's too difficult to do, then they shouldn't be drilling.

I want ALL their assets seized to pay for this "cleanup."

[secondwind]

6. I've heard that when the rig collapsed, it fell right on top of the drill hole....guess

that wasn't accurate? :shrug:


For everyone's sake -- and the sake of our wonderful sea creatures (dolphins are birthing now in the Gulf) -- I hope that this BP representative is telling the truth!

[jus_the_facts]

9. They've lied from the get-go....every day they've fed disinfo...

....don't trust them to tell the truth now. x(

[Dappleganger]

46. Agreed, it's all about CYA and keeping culpability to a minimum.

I refuse to trust any news about what is or is not flowing into the Gulf except from a non-corporate resource.

[Brother Buzz]

39. The rig didn't collapsed, it sank

and it's off the the side. The obstacle directly over the wellhead is the 45 ton blowout preventer stack that encapsulates the actual blowout preventer valves (BOP). Access to the valves is proving difficult by the ROV's.

Blowout preventer stack

The government over business, the individual over government, the environment over everything. - Justice Rosenberg (The Pelican Brief)

[Proletariatprincess]

7. oh yeah.....sure they have....

BP is just such a benevolent company we can surely believe anything it tells us and that it has everyones best interests at heart. ha.

[pattmarty]

11. At this point after all the lying they have done already, I wouldn't.................

...........believe them if they said "water is wet".

[elocs]

15. The truth of it is that it's in BP's best interest to get this stopped as soon as possible.

I am sure they are doing the best they can because for what possible reason could they want the oil to continue to spill into the Gulf?

It's time to engage in a little logic and common sense here.

[damntexdem]

22. It's perfectly safe to drill in water so deep that it prevents our efforts to ameliorate disasters.

BP should move it's offices to Egypt -- because it's already in de Nile.

[ClarkUSA]

27. Your OP is misleading because you did not include a very pertinent part of the article.

MOBILE, Ala. -- BP has significantly cut the flow of oil leaking from its damaged Deepwater Horizon rig on the Gulf of Mexico sea floor, a company spokesman said this morning.

Jeff Childs, a deputy incident commander for BP, said in a briefing with Alabama officials that the company successfully shut a set of hydraulic shears known as annular rams, helping to clamp the ruptured pipe and block the leaking oil.

"We've significantly cut the flow through the pipe," Childs said at the Mobile briefing hosted by U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa.

You only included the part which supported your opinion, but in fact, BP really has succeeded in shutting down the annular rams which is good news. Such cherrypicking is dishonest.

So much for "jus the facts". :eyes:

[jus_the_facts]

48. HERE's the FACTS.....JUST LIKE I SAID......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4366358

[ClarkUSA]

66. Um, your own OP source was "WRONG". You'd better check your "facts" next time before posting.

:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Sounds to me...

Like they've managed to successfully cut a significant amount of flow from the pipe, and they're still working on cutting the rest of the flow from the pipe.

:shrug:

[paparush]

31. See! The invisible hand of the free market at work.

After creating a total environmental clusterfuck, the market can self-correct if we just stand back and give it time to work its sea-turtle-killing magic. :sarcasm:

Hell, BP will probably patent some new techniques off of this disaster and make even more $$.

[SoapBox]

33. And then this! "Fox And Friends Pushes ‘Conspiracy Theory’ That Massive Oil Spill Was ‘Deliberate’ ‘

These people are freak'n crazy!

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/03/fox-oil-conspiracy/comment-page-2/#comment-6156404

[jxnmsdemguy65]

36. There is an article opining that the whole thing could be North Korea's fault..

... that they sent in spy subs to blow the rig up....

http://www.helium.com/items/1822086-possible-north-korean-attack-on-deepwater-horizon-oil-rig

(Discussion of subs begins on page 2)

[Subdivisions]

42. Oh brother...

:eyes:

[meow mix]

34. is "significant" less than half or more than half

in my estimations i would usually use the term significant around 30 - 40 percent i suppose

[HughMoran]

37. Sounds like a small amount of progress

Deliberate attempt at misquoting to spin the story aside.

Just the facts should mean "just the facts", not some Faux news idea of 'facts'.

[jus_the_facts]

53. Guess again, Moran....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4366358

[HughMoran]

54. You still misquoted

So, anything you post is garbage from now on since I now know you have no integrity.

[jus_the_facts]

55. BP has integrity though, riiiight.....

:nopity:

[ClarkUSA]

69. If you feel BP doesn't have "integrity" then why are you taking BP's word as the truth now? Hmm?

:crazy: :tinfoilhat:

[HughMoran]

70. BP is shit too

This whole situation is shit. Point is, THEY broke it THEY have to fix it. And I'm rooting for them to fix it since nobody else will and this is a fucking HUGE disaster.

[florida08]

38. self delete

[skip fox]

40. Any fact? BP estimates of lessened flow? Coast Guard?

This is an extrmemly interesting item for all America, but especially for us here in southern Louisiana.

[jus_the_facts]

45. Seems they're grasping at fallacious straws to minimize the impact of this....

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/experts_rain_is_helping_to_dis.html

Earlier reports indicated fumes were already being smelled in Mobile....we're supposed to trust BP and the media when they change their stories hourly...riiight?! :eyes:

[slackmaster]

41. K&R - Any reduction is good news

Unless you absolutely MUST have a crisis to make your life meaningful.

[skip fox]

44. Facts and estimates would be more useful than

scratching any ideological itch.

[jus_the_facts]

49. Read it and weep skip.....

....just like I tried to point out...yet got flamed to hell and back for it....sigh.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4366358

[AngryOldDem]

50. Until this is independently verified and witnessed....

...I call bullshit. Of course BP is going into CYA mode. Fuck them.

[jus_the_facts]

52. UPDATE: BP says Flow is UNCHANGED.... low and behold.... I told you so....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4366358

[BakedAtAMileHigh]

56. what is really pathetic is that the corporate cheerleaders here

will most likely not bother to read your link.

[jus_the_facts]

61. Indeed.... and still accuse ME of misrepresenting the facts.... ironical, no?

[ClarkUSA]

68. You did cherry pick quotes. Now you're taking BP's word as the solemn truth, which is amusing.

:crazy:

[ClarkUSA]

57. Um, you just proved your own OP source was wrong. Do you do that often?

:rofl:

[jus_the_facts]

59. It proves BP LIES.... and some are too dense to realize that....

[ClarkUSA]

62. So why you're taking BP's word as the truth now? Round and round you go... don't you get dizzy?

:crazy:

[jus_the_facts]

65. You obviously are dizzy from being hoist by your own petard. LOLZ!

[ClarkUSA]

67. No, I'm amused at your false OP source and your equivocating claims about BP's trustworthiness.

:tinfoilhat:

[TheWatcher]

71. So what is the Truth, now that BP is talking out of both sides of their ass cheeks?

While everyone quibbles over who was "right" about Whatever, the Crisis still continues, and we have no way of knowing what the truth is.

BP has not told the truth about ANYTHING from the very beginning.

As for getting actual facts from The Fourth Reic....Um, I mean Estate, The Corporate owned Media is set up by DESIGN now, to prevent most of the Public from having access to what is ACTUALLY going on in their country.

With everyday that passes, it becomes more difficult to differentiate our Media from the old Soviet Union Pravda.

And the fact that most of the Brain Dead, Propagandized, Hypnotized, "Go Along" Public defaults to whatever sound byte makes them "feel good" as the ultimate determining factor for what reality is, doesn't help either.

A Broken Nation, with a population of Broken People, run by an infinitely corrupt Criminal Government (owned, bought, and paid for by Corporations) Cannot heal from it's wounds.

It can only cover them up

I imagine this current crisis will underscore that mightily.

[workinclasszero]

72. Oh sure we can trust BP right?

:puke: x 1000000000000000000000

As much as we can trust the half-governor Palin who assured Americans that oil drilling off the coast was perfectly safe.:grr:

[WeDidIt]

73. I ain't buying it

I was one of the fools who bought that "The wellhead isn't leaking" bullshit last week.

I say, PROVE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!

[DCBob]

74. Unfortunately Childs mispoke.. "BP released a statement saying the oil flow remained unchanged"

By Monday afternoon, however, BP had released a statement saying the oil flow remained unchanged. "BP would like to clarify that, contrary to some media reports, the actions it has taken to date on the blow out preventer have not resulted in any observed reduction in the rate of flow of oil from the MC252 well," the statement said.

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/bp_official_weve_significantly.html