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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:19 AM
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Judge agrees to delay release of militia members
Source: AP

DETROIT -- A judge has suspended a decision that would have freed nine members of a Michigan militia from jail while they await trial.

Late Monday U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts granted a request by the U.S. Attorney's office to delay their release. Prosecutors have until 5 p.m. Wednesday to tell the judge whether they will file an appeal. Roberts says prosecutors must provide a detailed explanation of why they think they their appeal can succeed.

The nine members of the southern Michigan-based Hutaree group have been charged with conspiracy to commit sedition, or rebellion, against the government.



Read more: http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/05/04/general-us-fbi-raids-militia_7573105.html?boxes=financechannelAP
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 08:05 AM
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1. A Sign of Some Sanity in the System
Edited on Tue May-04-10 08:13 AM by Demeter
The mothers in Michigan thank you.

Calling it sedition is glorifying a crime spree. It isn't really sedition until overthrowing the power structure is inevitable anyway..."sedition" is one of those slippery excuses to violate civil rights for all in an attempt to blanket the nation for the criminal actions of a few.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

United States

Civilian

There have been 24 attempts in the United States to regulate speech through legislation banning sedition.

In 1798, President John Adams signed into law the Alien and Sedition Acts, the fourth of which, the Sedition Act or "An Act for the Punishment of Certain Crimes against the United States" set out punishments of up to two years of imprisonment for "opposing or resisting any law of the United States" or writing or publishing "false, scandalous, and malicious writing" about the President or the U.S. Congress, but specifically not the Vice-President. This Act of Congress was allowed to expire in 1801 after the election of Thomas Jefferson to the Presidency. He had been the Vice-President at the time of the Act's passage.

In the Espionage Act of 1917, Section 3 made it a crime, punishable by up to 20 years of imprisonment and a fine of up to $10,000, to willfully spread false news of the American army and navy with an intent to disrupt their operations, to foment mutiny in their ranks, or to obstruct recruiting. This Act of Congress was amended Sedition Act of 1918, which expanded the scope of the Espionage Act to any statement criticizing the Government of the United States. These Acts were upheld in 1919 in the case of Schenck v. United States, but they were largely repealed in 1921, leaving laws forbidding foreign espionage in the United States and allowing military censorship of sensitive material.

In 1940, the Alien Registration Act, or "Smith Act", was passed, which made it a crime to advocate or to teach the desirability of overthrowing the United States Government, or to be a member of any organization which does the same. It was often used against Communist Party organizations. This Act was invoked in three major cases, one of which against the Socialist Worker's Party in Minneapolis in 1941, resulting in 23 convictions, and again in what became known as the Great Sedition Trial of 1944 in which a number of pro-Nazi figures were indicted but released when the prosecution ended in a mistrial. Also, a series of trials of 140 leaders of the Communist Party USA also relied upon the terms of the "Smith Act" - beginning in 1949 - and lasting until 1957. Although the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the convictions of 11 CPUSA leaders in 1951 in Dennis v. United States, that same Court reversed itself in 1957 in the case of Yates v. United States, by ruling that teaching an ideal, no matter how harmful it may seem, does not equal advocating or planning its implementation. Although unused since at least 1961, the "Smith Act" remains a Federal law.

Laura Berg, a nurse at a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hospital in New Mexico was investigated for sedition in September 2005<13> after writing a letter<14><15> to the editor of a local newspaper, accusing several national leaders of criminal negligence. Though their action was later deemed unwarranted by the director of Veteran Affairs, local human resources personnel took it upon themselves to request an FBI investigation. Ms. Berg was represented by the ACLU<16>. Charges were dropped in 2006 <1>.

On March 28, 2010, nine members of the militia Hutaree were arrested and charged with crimes including seditious conspiracy.<17>
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 08:24 AM
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2. Release them to the lions. (NT)
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:27 AM
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3. So remember kids: If you're just brown,black,yellow, or red you get arrested. If you're white,
plan to kill police, generally cause mayhem and try to overthrow the US government, you get arrested (maybe) but then released.

Any questions?
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feslen Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:16 AM
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5. you forgot to add "rich" ....to that statement and a member of the NRC
heh
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:05 AM
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4. Can't we just do a little "walling" and maybe some ice water on their nude bodies
maybe make them masterbate for the intertainment of our female guards. I am sure there are a lot of methods we could use on them that we learned from the wisdom of Republicans..Who knows if there isn't some ticking bomb about to go off that they or their associates put into place..It would make great TV and I am sure Americans would be glued to the screen..
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