Red Cross confirms 'secret jail' in Bagram, Afghanistan

[dipsydoodle]

Source: BBC News

The US airbase at Bagram in Afghanistan contains a facility for detainees that is distinct from its main prison, the Red Cross has confirmed to the BBC.

Nine former prisoners have told the BBC that they were held in a separate building, and subjected to abuse.

The US military says the main prison, now called the Detention Facility in Parwan, is the only detention facility on the base.

However it has said it will look into the abuse allegations made to the BBC.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8674179.stm

[saigon68]

1. Same shit different country

[Lerkfish]

2. NOT IN MY NAME!

end torture. I don't care if Obama is left, center or right, END IT NOW!

[chill_wind]

3. Same shit, new bosses.

K & R.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. Yep.

x(

[Demeter]

12. New Figureheads, Certainly

Which raises the question--Who Is Number 1?

[glitch]

31. More of the SHAME. nt

[ShortnFiery]

4. Shameful. I could not be more embarrassed of our AMORAL "leadership" as a ...

supposedly civilized, first world nation.

Is it any wonder that the rest of the world loathes and/or fears us?

[sasquuatch55]

8. De-evolution! We are far from civilized, just look around at the disregard for each other and nature

Capitalistic greed trumps humanity, while values and compassion cease to exist. We (the US) put ourselves on a self rightious pedestal; yet we are as despicable as those we condemn.

[elias49]

5. If there's nothing to hide

why can't the Red Cross visit, and see for themselves. Or allow a member of the press?
It's the same kind of logic the gov't uses in terms of compromising personal privacy in this country: "if you're innocent, you shouldn't have anything to worry about."

[EFerrari]

7. It was a point of pride that the Red Cross would never be allowed in the door

It was a point of pride that the Red Cross would never be allowed in the door, Jeff says. This is important because it defied the Geneva Conventions, which require that the Red Cross have access to military prisons. "Once, somebody brought it up with the colonel. 'Will they ever be allowed in here?' And he said absolutely not. He had this directly from General McChrystal and the Pentagon that there's no way that the Red Cross could get in — they won't have access and they never will. This facility was completely closed off to anybody investigating, even Army investigators."

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ0806TERROR_102#ixzz0ncbYuxiH

From 2006.

[chill_wind]

13. Proud. That is an astonishing notion. Imagine the evil that is occurrig

that makes it so necessary to keep it so hidden. These are grotesque excuses for humans.

[Capt. America]

9. The United States does not torture, period. (void where prohibited)

[mbperrin]

10. Will the criminals who ordered this and continue to do so, ever be

held to account?

I'm sure Vladas Zajanckauskas never thought he would be.

[Soylent Brice]

11. K&R

[Eyerish]

14. Absolutely disgraceful....

K&R

[Solly Mack]

15. K&R

[bullwinkle428]

16. "The U.S. of Tortureville - Now Under New Management!"

:cry:

[fascisthunter]

17. we have some verrrry sick people in our country

and this is a prime example of how sick they are. They even kept it secret because they too realize how fucked up their own actions are, and how indefensable it is to torture anybody!

[JBoy]

18. It was harmless fun. Secret jail was just frat house for those on "double secret probation"

:sarcasm:

[Moochy]

19. Oh Look, nobody from my ignore list!

Imagine that, that the shills here keep clear of the radioactive subjects like this one.

KICK & REC

[gratuitous]

20. Oh good, the military "will look into the abuse allegations"

Well, we'll get to the bottom of this toot fuckin' sweet now!

Creating a Solzhenitsyn for a new generation.

[Robb]

21. It is because of the Red Cross being right in 2004

...that we even know about the Guantanamo abuses.

Further, it is because of an Obama policy (reversing that of Dubya's cabal) that the ICRC is given lists with the names of every prisoner taken and held.

I look forward to the second-day story on this. And K&R.

Edited because I can't spell Guantanamo without checking.

[AngryAmish]

22. How could this be?

President Obama is a committed supporter of human rights. Is the military withholding this information from him? And isn't that insubordination?

[dorkulon]

24. Keep dreaming. nt

[Iowa]

26. I think you forgot the sarcasm tag.

[EFerrari]

30. As the article I posted up thread shows, the goods on McChrystal

were out there four years ago. :(

[FiveGoodMen]

23. Someone send this to the Nobel Peace Prize committee and tell them to Fuck Off and Die.

[Iowa]

27. +1

[Coco2]

29. +1

[glitch]

32. Second this. Fortunately we have real awards for real human heroes.

actually working on making life better for everyone on this planet: http://www.rightlivelihood.org/

[earth mom]

25. Nice hope & change you got there Obama.

NOT!

:grr:

[ultracase24]

28. How can Obama defend this

Id really like to know. Please dont tell me after 17 months he's "unaware" of this. No one is buying that anymore. Bush and Cheney are laughing and gloating over this. Really disturbing stuff that Obama is continuing.

[ultracase24]

33. kicking and recommending

Please, please let someone come on here and defend this crap.

[boppers]

34. Will do!

I was held in a detention area, recently, where I was placed on exhibit, in a glass and metal box, for others. I felt singled out and humiliated, for crimes of mere circumstance. I had no red cross contact, amnesty international knew nothing about me, and my body parts were pressed and fondled while the guards laughed and joked.

That's what an airport flight out of Portland, Oregon, one way, will get you.

I could try to insist that this is an egregious violation of my human rights, and scream at the top of my lungs about it.... or I could point out that being frisked is different from gang rape, and that calling every temporary transfer facility a "secret prison" is insulting to those who died in secret death camps.

[tekisui]

35. knr.