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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:41 PM
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Schwarzenegger Will Propose Budget Eliminating State's Welfare-To-Work, Most Child Care To Poor
Edited on Fri May-14-10 03:49 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Los Angeles Times

Los Angeles Times | May 14, 2010 | 1:09 p.m.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will today propose a budget that would eliminate the state's welfare-to-work program and most child care for the poor.

His $83.4-billion plan would freeze funding for local schools, further cut state workers' pay and take away 60% of state money for local mental health programs. Higher education and state parks are among the few areas the governor's proposal would spare.

The plan, which would not raise taxes, also relies on $3.4 billion in help from Washington -- half of what the governor sought earlier this year -- to help close a budget gap now estimated at $19.1 billion. Billions more would be saved through accounting moves and fund shifts.

"California has no low-hanging fruit left," said the text of Schwarzenegger remarks, released in advance of this afternoon's budget unveiling in Sacramento. "I now have no choice but to call for elimination of programs."

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-state-budget-20100515,0,877220.story



And the Right's plan accomplishes what was intended.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:42 PM
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1. This will only make matters worse.
Where is Jerry Brown?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:47 PM
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3. Which Jerry Brown are we gonna get?
Edited on Fri May-14-10 03:48 PM by truedelphi
Are we gonna get the one I remember from thirty years ago, or the one who likes the notion of military schools for kids in poor neighborhoods?

Anyway, if this state is to remain free from rioting in the streets, the officials better think twice about the notion of cutting back on the life support. Even the Nixon Administration understood the importance of keeping people (minimally) supported.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:46 PM
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9. If you're hoping for Brown, good luck. He had his chance 35 yrs.............
...........ago when he was a young liberal dating a young barefoot Linda Ronstadt. Today, he's a cranky centrist Dem that's looking for his last hurrah. Hopefully (isn't that pretty much all we have left?) I'm wrong and he becomes a modern day (older) Robin Hood, either way California is in for some tough years.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:14 AM
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21. waiting in the wings
no worries
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:14 AM
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22. self delete
Edited on Sun May-16-10 12:14 AM by shanti
dupe
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:46 PM
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2. Oh wonderful...
Take from all those that truly need help.

They seriously need to legalize weed and tax the flippin' rich white penis' and that would solve CA's budget "crisis".
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:50 PM
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4. I always wonder what these MEN expect working mothers to do
with their children while they're at work.

It was a major scandal in Boston when it was found that new Chinese immigrants routinely bound their infants and toddlers and left them alone in their cribs while they were out working, but apparently that's what men like Schwarzenegger expect us to do with them.

When you ask one of these right wing men what our alternatives are, their eyes just glaze over because they haven't thought about what it's like not to have a wife to shoulder the burden.

Then they change the subject.

What Arnold needs to do is tap his rich friends by raising their taxes to cover the shortfall in desperately needed human services like day care.

Rich right wing men will never, ever do that, though, not when single mothers of young children are such an appealing target for all their blame.

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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:17 PM
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5. Time to tax the rich
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:48 PM
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10. You're kidding, right???
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 05:24 PM
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14. The rich will simply leave, then.
How many celebrities with homes in CA do you think live in CA for tax purposes?

Few.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:20 PM
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6. I wonder how many tax abatements to corporations he's going to take away?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:23 PM
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7. If the article was accurate, then it would be saying he is
Edited on Fri May-14-10 04:42 PM by RandomThoughts
doing within a system that has those effects. By following the rules of that system only bad effects happen, that is most of it, that system can not think on things like taxes, or thoughts of societal good.

The system in place in many places is made to create scarcity and sadness, and when it is thought on from inside that system, with that systems frame of mind, the outcome is pretty obvious. There are some good effects from that system, but only when in balance, but that system pulls to money first, and goes way out of balance, when not countered.

So he is looking at the data, and doing a computation based on rules of the system he is in, and fulfills that systems objectives. I think that is why what system you are in, and even the concept of being free from such systems is important.


Think on it, he is looking at data, then putting them through functions of a system meant to create suffering and hardship and even lead to people dieing. So those are the effects that occur when using that system.

It is a hard place to be, it takes a big jump to get out of that frame of mind. There are many things that try and keep people in certain systems.


I played this clip before, it is the mars frame of mind, or what is thought by many trapped in difficult systems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYwCoCLj7g

The Cohagen comment is the threat based fear ideas. It is to create fear, is about self only, and is not about happiness, does he look happy? It is to make one afraid of illusions of destruction, and a false claim, claiming to know more, and telling people not to think, only follow orders, authoritarian, business first.

I think Arnold probably cares much for people, but is only thinking from within that system, hence he is in a maze, not an open field with many options.


Better option, be who you want to be. And hope it is what is best. I think some bad stuff is keeping him down, that would be my guess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtoJBv-YHUo


Have to cut through red tape though...


Alan Jackson - I Don't Even Know Your Name. With Foxworthy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aNjYlgwBN0

Send in the Narwhals!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc


Better song.

Alan Jackson - Livin' On Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXLmYyFu4I
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:51 PM
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11. This statement...
"I think Arnold probably cares much for people, but is only thinking from within that system, hence he is in a maze, not an open field with many options."

His only constraints are California laws.

People are already leaving California in large numbers, heading for more tax friendly states. Once they're gone, their taxes go with them. It's called the "Law of Diminishing Returns" Those who live their life financially, will run like hell. The Corporations will move in and negotiate some sweetheart deals to keep jobs and revenue flowing. It'll probably mean less taxes, not more.

The money is gone. California spent it. They've hit the "unsustainable deficit" wall. Now they gotta deal with it. End of the line. It's the same in every state right now, there's just not enough money. Our economy shrunk by nearly 20% in the past couple years, caused mostly by declining home and real estate values. That means even less tax money.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 05:03 PM
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12. That is race to the bottom, you are describing.
Edited on Fri May-14-10 05:30 PM by RandomThoughts
You have to be as bad off as other people to get the corporate dollars. If a state has better climate for money, then it has less services, and money moves in.

One of the bad effects of money first. And why the fixes have to be global, and that is done in the hearts of people, not just in systems. The systems, based on profit, are without feeling, so lose the ability to counter rules made for money first, people can be feeling, but the systems in place in many places can not have feeling.

Why it must be about many people, not a hierarchy of a system with no moral component.


Want to play this song again.

Run To The Hills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO6RplZHYAs

I think it is a love song, but some see it differently.

Playing this song again.
Faith Hill - Breathe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCmsZUN4r_s
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 06:06 PM
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17. It is a love song, because it tells wrong that was done,
Edited on Fri May-14-10 06:08 PM by RandomThoughts
And it is sharing love for any that are hurt because of lesser reasons and thought.

It also was part of Derek Halfhand's story.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:18 AM
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23. ARNOLD
isn't thinking about anything. this is all the doing of pete wilson. he's GAS's cheney. union busting is what the big prize for them is. as they say, follow the money.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 04:45 PM
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8. What about that special deal for yachts?
...what ever happened to that thing that, the rich just had to buy
a yacht, take it to Mexico and park it for a short period...and
then they could avoid either sales taxes or some kind of luxury tax.

What happened to that?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 05:17 PM
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13. That is not the way I see ships.
Edited on Fri May-14-10 05:18 PM by RandomThoughts
Then again, I have never been one to make deals either, that makes assumptions.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 05:31 PM
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15. Pay attention, everybody. This is what happens when lowering taxes
becomes a people's only priority.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:19 AM
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24. and therein lies the irony
our taxes aren't low!
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 05:54 PM
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16. Wow....
and here I was having a wee bit of respect for him.

Fuck him and the rethugs.

Tax the goddamn rich. Period.

They have the money.

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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 06:07 PM
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18. More help the wealthy stay wealthy, and fuck the poor..how endearing a policy choice.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 09:31 PM
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19. I have to wonder how close the state is to the Gann Limit (Prop 4)
Few understand how ironclad that is.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:01 PM
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20. That's a hasta la vista for a Republican victory this year.
"Sorry poor people, we can't afford to help you because you're lazy and we can't manage our finances...but we can't raise taxes because most of the people who elected us to represent them will revolt and leave!" someone in the administration said (what I thought in my head).

If the Republican candidates for governor seriously agree with the current governor's proposals, how can the voters seriously allow this too?

People need to understand that these programs are WELFARE TO WORK and thus AID the economy! So how will eliminating these programs benefit California's struggling economy?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 01:37 AM
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25. Let me know when everything in California isn't bizarrely inflated.
Or, perhaps, tell me why it is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

My first guess is that California, like the east coast, seems to have insane amounts of income concentration in city areas, but when I looked at moving there, housing costs were laughably absurd.

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