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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:27 PM
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IBM to hire up to 800 for new center in Missouri
Source: Bloomberg

COLUMBIA, Mo.

IBM Corp. said Monday that it's hiring up to 800 technical jobs for a new service center in Columbia, Mo.

The center will provide information technology services and business process outsourcing to IBM customers. It is the third such center IBM has opened in the last 18 months. The other two are in Dubuque, Iowa, and Lansing, Mich.

IBM will start hiring this summer and the new center, at 2810 LeMone Industrial Blvd., will open in the fall after a renovation. Jobs range from entry level positions to professionals.

The center will mainly support U.S. clients and their needs, including server systems operations and maintenance of hardware and software systems.

Read more: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9FOQ5700.htm



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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:33 PM
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1. IBM didnt they provide database mngt for Nazi Germany?
Oh yea, they are a global corp. but were they in 1939? What a great place to work
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:35 PM
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2. In 1939 they were just an adding machine company
and I don't believe computer databases were in existence yet.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:45 PM
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4. I have no knowledge as to the validity of this, but according to the article
Edited on Mon May-17-10 08:52 PM by RKP5637
I found IBM did have some involvement, as I say, I have no idea about its validity... this just sparked my interest.

Here it is...

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jun2001/ibm-j27.shtml

Also see http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/02/41753
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:00 PM
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8. Its true, the more you learn the less shocking it all becomes.
after all war can be very PROFITABLE! thaats why we are always in one or two or three.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:25 PM
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11. Yeah, isn't that the truth... History is ripe with profiteers from war that makes
for strange bedfellows. I think if McCain were in now we would also be in Iran... like what this country needs is more wars.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:41 PM
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13. Could be, nothing shocks me anymore,.... nt
Edited on Mon May-17-10 09:41 PM by Lost4words
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:02 PM
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17. This is an interesting read... speaking of profitability in war...
Edited on Mon May-17-10 10:09 PM by RKP5637
I'm not saying I agree with all of this, I certainly don't know all of the facts... some of it was interesting to me as I've heard pieces of some of it over the years.

http://mtwsfh.blogspot.com/2008/11/1939-1940-wars-just-good-business.html
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:54 PM
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6. Are you saying they did not provide these services?
I want to know before my next reply, are you that uninformed? Really? Ever heard of punch cards? And not database but numerical tabulation machines. Giving exact numbers would be a very useful tool. IBM Programmers made up the punch cards for german prisoner disposition, final disposition. Or didnt you know this little fact?

Your country has strong values until there is cold hard cash involved.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:17 PM
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10. No, I'm not saying they did not perform work for the Nazi's
Edited on Mon May-17-10 09:21 PM by notadmblnd
Hell many US corporations aided and abetted the Nazi's. I'm saying that databases did not reside on computers. Now the first computer was built in Germany during the late 30's and was operated out of the guys parents home, so I doubt highly that IBM was operating as a computer database company at that time in history. Punch cards? You're talking to an old keypunch operator (it's how I got started in IT) After I became a computer operator, the data that was keyed into the punch cards, was read into the computer but did not reside on the computer, therefore, no computer databases existed at that time. Punch cards, believe it or not, existed in the late 1800's however, they were not used by computers. Now you may consider an abacus a computer, but a database does not reside on it.

In 1961, programmer Charles Bachman invented the first database system, called Integrated Data Store (IDS). This primitive database contained a flat file layout, much like a spreadsheet. A decade later, Edward "Ted" Codd of IBM developed the relational model still used in today's SQL databases.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/2008793
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:56 PM
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:04 PM
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19. Old-Fashioned Pecan Pie
Ingredients

2 eggs, slightly beaten
1 cup light corn syrup
1/4 cup brown sugar
1 Tbsp molasses
2 Tbsp melted butter
2 Tbsp flour
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 1/4 cups pecans, coarsely chopped

1 9-inch pie shell, chilled for an hour if freshly made, defrosted for 10 minutes if frozen. (See pie crust recipes.)

Method

1 Preheat oven to 375°F. Spread pecans along the bottom of the pie shell. Mix the remaining ingredients and pour over pecans. The pecans will rise to the surface of the pie.

2 Bake at 375°F for 45-50 minutes until the filling has set. About 20 minutes into the cooking you may want to use a pie crust protector, or tent the edges of the pie crust with aluminum foil to prevent the pie crust edges from burning.

3 Remove from oven and let cool completely.

Serves 8.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:08 PM
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20. Never, Lemon meringue, your good at copy paste but witless
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:42 PM
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23. Look, I don't know why you have to be so nasty to everyone you may disagree with
Edited on Mon May-17-10 10:43 PM by notadmblnd
(perhaps you have a deep seated need to make yourself feel superior?) Ford, GM, IBM, GE, Coca Cola, Bayer.... the list goes on, all did business with the Nazis. You're telling me that you personally boycott all these companies today and that we all should still boycott all these companies 60 years after WWII? Who am I supposed to have compassion for nearly a generation after the event? I think that you're just mad because you were ready for an angry rant and I didn't give it to you. And I never said it was ok in my posts. You added those words yourself.

Now perhaps you should take your meds and calm down old timer, before you give yourself a stroke.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:57 PM
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7. Ah they were more than that grasshopper, research my friend...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 06:28 AM
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24. Hollerith machines


In 1939, the German government conducted a census of all persons living in Germany. Census takers recorded each person's age, sex, residence, profession, religion, and marital status, and for the first time, they also listed the person's race as traced through his or her grandparents. This information was later punched into coded cards by thousands of clerks.

The cards were sorted and counted by the Hollerith machine, an early version of the modern computer. The Hollerith was invented in 1884 by a German-American engineer, Herman Hollerith. The machine was used in the United States and by most European governments for processing census data in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The Holleriths used by the Germans were developed by a German branch of the American company later known as International Business Machines (IBM).

The information from the 1939 census helped Nazi official Adolf Eichmann to create the Jewish Registry, containing detailed information on all Jews living in Germany. The Registry also recorded the names of Jews in Austria and the Sudetenland of western Czechoslovakia, which were occupied by German troops in 1938 and 1939 and made part of the Reich (German empire). Nazi racial ideology and policies did not stop at Germany's borders.

Technology and information that were under other circumstances helpful tools became, under the Nazi regime, a means of locating victims.

http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007703
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:04 PM
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25. IBM 803. I actually operated one of these. It's still just a big adding machine.
Capable of sorting fields and calculating results. Not a database as neither stored any information.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:50 PM
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5. See #4. n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:41 PM
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3. are they gonna import the workersz/ nt
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:06 PM
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9. Man, some good news for a change
and all the downers have to jump in.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:36 PM
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12. I thought this was good news?
Am I the only one?
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:04 PM
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18. Its like the Gulf of Mexico we got a big leak and we are now capturing a little bit of oil.
I suspect IBM is doing this for their US customers who increasingly dislike overseas tech support.

So in a nutshell IBM is doing this because they have to, not out of some altruistic purpose.

Corporations are never your friend, in time you will learn this.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:42 PM
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14. They're only hiring for cheap labor jobs.
They've been shedding the good-paying US jobs for awhile now. Anyone who's been there for some time has seen the writing on the wall.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:43 PM
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15. The article says professional jobs
as well as entry level.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:11 PM
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:19 PM
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22. I know what they are doing.
My brother-in-law was just laid off from them after 16 years and knows what is happening too. They let him go and then outsourced his job, as they did to thousands of others. Don't be fooled by these corpoRATS.
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