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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:17 PM
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BP withholds oil spill facts — and government lets it
Source: McClatchy


* Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2010

BP withholds oil spill facts — and government lets it

By Marisa Taylor and Renee Schoof | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — BP, the company in charge of the rig that exploded last month in the Gulf of Mexico, hasn't publicly divulged the results of tests on the extent of workers' exposure to evaporating oil or from the burning of crude over the gulf, even though researchers say that data is crucial in determining whether the conditions are safe.

Moreover, the company isn't monitoring the extent of the spill and only reluctantly released videos of the spill site that could give scientists a clue to the amount of the oil in gulf.

BP's role as the primary source of information has raised questions about whether the government should intervene to gather such data and to publicize it and whether an adequate cleanup can be accomplished without the details of crude oil spreading across the gulf.

Under pressure from senators, BP released four videos Tuesday, but it hasn't agreed to better monitoring.




Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/18/94415/bps-secrecy-keep-facts-on-gulf.html#ixzz0oKzy8tlW
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:22 PM
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1. This is insanity. Next Washington will let them conduct the explosion investigation. N/T
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:27 AM
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9. A badly built tunnel killed a woman in Massachusetts and Romney let the guys who built it
do the inspection to find out why and also to decide if the tunnel was safe to re-open. (Yes, I mean "guys." I saw them walking the site. No females.)

Turned out glue was not a safe way for these contractors to install ceiling sections that were heavy enough to crumple a car like paper if they fell. Who could possibly have foreseen that? I don't think there were any criminal prosecutions for manslaughter, though.

I was shocked to learn that those same construction companies that build the killer tunnel and also declared it safe to reopen were also among his campaign contributors.

BTW, general contractor for the Big Dig (the infamous project of which this tunnel is part)? Bechtel, which has been about Halliburton's only competition for heavy construction in Iraq. I don't know if Bechtel had to bid for the Big Dig or not, though. And it would have been a sub-contractor who installed the ceiling sections. Still, the general contractor has overall responsiblity.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:23 PM
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2. oligarchy at work
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:29 PM
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3. More transparency?
Up is down and flat is round.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:31 PM
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4. WTF??

Why is this shit even allowed??

:banghead:

Oligarchy/corporatocracy indeed.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:43 PM
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5. Enough.
Way past time for intervention. K & R.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:44 AM
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6. BP withholds oil spill facts — and government lets it
Source: McClatchy

Toby Odone, a BP spokesman, said the company is sharing the data with "legitimate interested parties," which include government agencies and the private companies assisting in the cleanup. When asked whether the information can be released publicly, he responded, "Why would one do it? Any parties with a legitimate interest can have access to it."

Joseph T. Hughes Jr., the director of the worker education training program for the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, said he didn't think "anyone has seen much of that data at all."

"The hard part about it is that in a normal response, when the government is doing this, there might be more transparency on the data," Hughes said. "In this case, when you have BP making the decisions and collecting the data it's harder to have that transparency."

Unlike the response to other past national disasters such as Hurricane Katrina where the government was in charge, BP has been designated as the "responsible party" under federal law and is overseeing much of the response to the spill. The government is acting more as an adviser.




Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/18/94415/bps-secrecy-keep-facts-on-gulf.html



Mr. Obama - how much oil is spewing from the pipes? You've had a month to tell us. You are supposed to be a smart man. You have surrounded yourself with smart men and women. As the leader of our country, your obligation to keep the American people informed about this catastrophe is paramount.

This is the clearest signal yet about how you believe government should act in a crisis. While BP is killing the gulf, you remain distant, aloof, politically correct - afraid of being caught up in the unpleasantness. Short of a few rhetorical words of unhappiness, you've engaged your blow out preventor and you have walked away.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/18/gulf-oil-spill-government_n_580815.html

You've turned your back on this affair, like Wall Street's disaster, you publicly scolded a few fat cats and walked away from the mess. Mr President you talk too much. Way too much. You don't walk the walk. You walk away.

Put our multi-billion dollar inventory of equipment, scientists and intellectual property to work and tell us how much oil is leaking. Tell us the types and volume of chemicals being used to break up the oil. Tell us the risks and plans for clean up.

This isn't an intellectual exercise or chess game. People are suffering, the environment is suffering. This disaster proves my instincts about you as commander-in-chief are correct. You have clearly demonstrated to me that you are not worthy of the position. We need leadership, not cheap fancy talk.

- Our spending and in Afghanistan exceeding the peak of Iraq. 100,000 troops, 100,000 private contractors.

- Insurance regulations have been written by insurance companies.

- Wall Street regulations are being written by investment banks.

- BP is in total control of a catastrophe that is crippling public municipalities in four states.

You are keeping your hands clean, determined to show that corporations can run government and war better than its citizenry. You are doing this regardless of the financial, human and environmental costs.

Bravo on your political survival instincts, Mr. President. Too bad for the Gulf. Too bad for dead Afghans, Iraqis and dead US soldiers. Too bad for stolen pension plans and families facing bankruptcy for lack of work. Too bad for laid-off workers whose jobs are sent to low skill workers in India and China where labor is unregulated. And too bad for those of us who still cannot afford proper care, even as Wall Street gets richer on health reform.

And ultimately, too bad for the East Coast and the Arctic. After Valdez and Deep Horizon, it's now their turn to bathe in the profits of big oil.







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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:44 AM
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7. hmmm. So much for transparency.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:44 AM
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8. Obama has to take this over . . . August to shut this thing down???!!!
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:21 PM
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12. This is so fucking spot on...
Mr. Obama - how much oil is spewing from the pipes? You've had a month to tell us. You are supposed to be a smart man. You have surrounded yourself with smart men and women. As the leader of our country, your obligation to keep the American people informed about this catastrophe is paramount.

This is the clearest signal yet about how you believe government should act in a crisis. While BP is killing the gulf, you remain distant, aloof, politically correct - afraid of being caught up in the unpleasantness. Short of a few rhetorical words of unhappiness, you've engaged your blow out preventor and you have walked away.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/18/gulf-oil-spill...

You've turned your back on this affair, like Wall Street's disaster, you publicly scolded a few fat cats and walked away from the mess. Mr President you talk too much. Way too much. You don't walk the walk. You walk away.


~empahsis added

Obama was right up there with Clinton as two of my least favorite candidates. I voted for him to keep Lady Blah Blah out of the White House. But as little as I expected of him, even I am disappointed in his performance.


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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:31 AM
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10. There is no doubt
in my mind that corporations are in charge of this country. I thought Obama might try to fix it. Silly me.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:49 AM
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11. kick - where is the commander in chief?
Edited on Wed May-19-10 08:49 AM by scentopine
awol, off playing 3d chess or dungeons and dragons or whatever.

We let BP borrow the gulf and they are returning it all fucked up. And they get their security deposit back.

Is this a great country for rich people or what!

For the rest of us, littering can land your ass in jail.


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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 01:02 PM
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13. If the governments "need oil," then it seems a regulatory conflict of interest.
With such a conflict of interest, it is no longer a question of if government can regulate oil companies adequately, but instead a realization that governments cannot.
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merkins Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:29 PM
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14. Where the Fuck is the US Government?
Insanity indeed this constant deferment to corporate power.

K&R
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