New drug reverses even 'untreatable' cancers

[IScreamSundays]

Source: telegraph UK

Reovirus, which lives in human respiratory and gastrointestinal tracts without causing any symptoms, can help magnify the effects of radiotherapy in treating even the most advanced cancers, laboratory tests have shown.

Tumours shrank or stopped growing in every patient who underwent radiotherapy coupled with a new drug, Reolysin, which contains particles of reovirus.

One patient had a large tumour mass in a salivary gland which was reduced in size enough to be surgically removed after undergoing the treatment. Another who was close to death with a serious form of spreading skin cancer was still alive 17 months later.

A total of 23 patients with a range of solid tumours including lung, bowel, ovarian and skin cancers took part in the clinical trial. All had stopped responding to traditional therapies but were able to get some pain relief from radiation treatment.

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Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7738352/New-drug-reverses-even-untreatable-cancers.html

[MidwestTransplant]

1. A Canadian drug company found this and the study was conducted by a UK doctor? IMPOSSIBLE. THEY

HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

[aquart]

2. And now they have the patents and we don't.

And I'm thinking, best seller?

[gtar100]

79. Probably all the better we don't. In America, cures are suppressed.

Not much money in cures... why kill a cash cow? After all, let's keep our priorities straight here. :sarcasm:

[Mark D.]

88. I've Always Said

If you really figure out a cure for cancer, don't announce it on American soil unless you're in a bunker. Notice the ultimate form of energy, water (not Hydrogen, but water) was discovered in Japan and there are several prototype vehicles the same size, shape, and power of gas vehicles (not all weird looking like other alternative vehicles) right now that can drive around on nothing but tap water. Their engine extracts the hydrogen, no need for storage issues of the highly explosive hydrogen. No need to go to an Exxon / Mobil to put hydrogen in your car (which is the goal of that energy company and others, trying to get hydrogen power from gas). Ok, we did it. We can take a gallon of water in our car, pour it in a little supply thing, and drive hundreds of miles with zero pollution. Why isn't it here. Well, what do cars run on, who drills for that, and notice how 3 of the 6 largest companies in the world are oil companies.

Any questions? I digress. Cancer is an industry. If this new treatment option is a cure, which I hope it is, I can see the day some bean counter sociopath soullessly says in front of Congress how such a cure would cost those in the cancer drug industry (chemotherapy) thousands of jobs. Ironic one of the top side effects of radiation and chemotherapy is - cancer. That's called repeat business. Carcinogenic pesticides and food additives like Aspartame are made by chemical companies involved in some way, very often, with the manufacture of chemotherapy. Any attempt to connect these obvious dots is called conspiracy theory, the best defense mechanism the ruling corporate elite have to keep other serfs 'on the case' defending a status quo of greed, wealth consolidation and hoarding, global enslavement, disease for profit, and so on, firmly in place. Puppet governments in tow - they make great scapegoats.

[CrisisPapers]

90. An engine fueled by water.? Not gonna duit.

"... right now can drive around on nothing but tap water."

Sorry, Mark D., but it's time for you to go back to school and take a course in basic physics.

"Nothing but tap water" can't drive a car, the first and second laws of thermodynamics say so.

First law: Energy can not be created or destroyed.
Second law: Energy "degrades" from useful (free) energy to useless (bound) energy.

That's why you can't burn a lump of coal twice -- after the free energy has been bound. Also why carbonate rock (e.g. limestone and coral) can not serve as a fuel -- the consitutive carbon is "bound." Likewise water: the hydrogen, excellent as a fuel source when elemental (H2) is useless as an energy source when bound with oxygen in water.

Strictly speaking, neither hydrogen nor electricity, by themselves are "energy sources." They are energy "conveyers" or "secondary sources" -- i.e., produced from other energy sources.

Mark D. gives himself away with "... their energy extracts the hydrogen." The "extraction" must require more energy than the following consumption of free hydrogen. That's called "entropy," baby! And it is an inviolable law of nature. So what is the energy source that extracts the hydrogen, and can it be put under the hood of an automobile? That energy source, whatever it is, drives the car.

For more about thermodynamics and entropy, see my "The Entropy Trap" --
www.igc.org/gadfly/papers/cornuc.htm#entropy .

Ernest Partridge
www.crisispapers.org

[Dubiosus]

93. and there is a way!!

Water is one of the most unknown and miraculous substances there is to find for us.
They do it with the right addition of salt/minerals and electricity! The secret lies in the
frequency. Everything is frequency, every atom is pulsating. It appears as if the
right frequency with a few amps and volts with a certain configuration of the metal
plates is triggering a cascade of a kind I don't know exactly to explain. I am no expert!
But it is HHO which is escaping the water in large amounts.
Water is mighty...
And if handled accurately it can blow up the world as hydrogen bomb, couldn't it?
By the way, there is a real academical trap. Our science is bought by the industry
and nobody can change that. That is a trap!

And the entropy thing isn't as valid as it seems. Out of dung grow mushrooms, beings of
the highest order, who can speak to you if ingested...academic testing and studying has occurred,
a book written called "The spirit molecule".
And what is called entropy is the decreasing "order" from a academical kind of view point.
What we call decay or burning up? Losing information! But it is just our point of view living
in an explosion addicted society! Read and watch some stuff about Victor Schauberger and Tesla and
Emoto and think again. The Japanese are on their best when they can improve existing or developed things.
We need educated academics who are still curious and not judging things that wouldn't fit in
their boxes immediately. Not understanding is no big thing and confessing it even less. It is
quite normal. But our scientists want us to think that we have to live the way we live and the worst
part is: Tooth and nails they will fight to convince you that they know it because they believe it!!
Over and over the same mistake through out history. Condemn the visionaries and later call them saints! :crazy:
They know shit but wouldn't tell you or they know it all and wouldn't tell you either! Tell ya


-Dub-
:evilgrin:

[BunkerHill24]

10. What the heck!....you mentioned it!

[dipsydoodle]

24. I don't think its actaully available on our NHS

Yet. Soon maybe.

[autorank]

35. Thank you for emphasizing that very important fact

We're sold this bill of goods that our big pharma is the ONLY way to viable treatments. That's
simply not the case. I can't wait to see the tab for producing this medicine, if it's the real
thing. Compare that to the crazy claims of hundreds of millions for new drug development here.
Great point!

[wolfgangmo]

77. Let's see ... premature ejaculate alert.

One study. Preliminary results. RioVirus not well studies. No longitudinal studies. No efficacy studies.


Hmmmmmmmm. This is not a breakthrough yet. Maybe in 10 years or 20 years. In the meantime we don't know; that it works in larger study groups, that it isn't dangerous or have as yet unknown effects, of if it will be approved at all.

We do know that radiotherapy is; expensive, sorta dangerous (in that exposure to high radiation levels is guarenteed to give you cancers later in life (helllllloooooooo - Hiroshima anyone?), and not efficacious in all cancers.


Is this potentially good news - yes. Is it the "wonder pill?" No.

[caraher]

83. Good reminder that this is all very preliminary

But your slam on radiotherapy is off-target. The people who receive it ALREADY have cancer - that's the whole point. Certainly there are risks of the therapy inducing new cancers, but that's a risk well-worth taking in many instances. And the induction of additional tumors is scarcely "guaranteed;" and even if it were, most people will gladly accept getting cancer again in 20 years if it means they don't die of cancer this year.


Nobody pretends radiation doesn't cause cancer, so I'm not sure what the point of bringing up Hiroshima is. But the radiation-induced cancer death toll from the Hiroshima bombing is at most a few percent of the total killed according to the best available estimates. Comparing the deadliness of a fission bomb to radiation exposure in cancer treatment is at best highly misleading.

There are significant limitations, costs and drawbacks to EVERY treatment for cancer. I agree with you that this study scarely proves they've found a "magic bullet" against cancer, but at the same time I'm glad to hear we have one more potential tool to develop. My chief cynical response to all cancer treatment breakthrough stories is the lopsided emphasis on spending for treatment over seriously regulating the multitude of known environmental causes of cancer.

[Laurab]

86. VERY well said... nt

[Wapsie B]

84. dupe

delete

[icee]

38. That's okay. Pfizer will steal it and charge $10,000.00 a pill for it.

[wolfgangmo]

75. Canada does NOT have socialized medicine.

Put down that jug o' koolaid and step away slowly.

[DFW]

3. My uncle has been treated with something like this

He is 85 and has non-Hodgkins lymphoma.

He has had 4 treatments, and although it is not gone, it has been literally stopped cold in its tracks.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. How wonderful, my dear DFW!

Here's to it disappearing!

:toast:

[DFW]

73. That's apparently not in the cards

He told me that the progress can be arrested (in itself a milestone), but previous damage cannot be reversed.
He is the last surviving sibling, and the other two died of cancer as well, so this kind of progress is VERY
relevant to me and my siblings.

[gateley]

60. Wow - that's great! Does he live in the U.S.? nt

[DFW]

72. Yup. New York State. n/t

[TZ]

4. Interesting sounds promising

A couple of issues- one this is a VERY small study group . 2- I've worked with Reo virus and I'm not convinced it's entirely harmless to people. Hopefully these effects can be duplicated in a larger study.

[foxfeet]

11. What are the potential harmful effects of reovirus?

Honest question, not a bash.

[dipsydoodle]

26. I don't think

that those receiving it really give a shit to be perfectly honest.

Better than nothing as they say. I think the intro into the UK was carried out on advanced patients only. If it was experimantal they'd have signed waivers.

Have a rummage through these : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=Reolysin+uk+trial&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&gs_rfai=

[foxfeet]

41. Thanks!

[tavalon]

21. I Am Legend comes to mind

But maybe that's just because I adore Will Smith.

[sce56]

61. It is the first thing I thought of also!

[tavalon]

64. I really loved that movie

Of course, it has two of my favorites, end of the world scenario and Will Smith.

[MannyGoldstein]

31. But 100% Shrink or Stop in Even 23 Patients Of This Type Is Super Unlikely To Be Chance

Either there's something that they're not telling us, or it's an outright fraud, or it's astonishing!

[sam kane]

6. Yes, but if true this would kill the Pharm. Industry.

the horror.

[sharp_stick]

8. Why do you say that

These guys have spent years building up venture capital to produce this treatment and carry out incredibly expensive trials with it. You can also bet that they are in constant contact with at least 5 or 6 major pharmaceutical companies in order to negotiate the sale or license of this treatment if it ever comes to anything.

[kimmerspixelated]

14. Until the cancer "industry" is brought to its knees,

This won't be marketed properly. A macrobiotic diet, etc. will also stop cancer in its tracks.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. LOL

[EvolveOrConvolve]

42. A macrobiotic diet stops cancer in its tracks

Really? Is there any proof for your claim?

[kimmerspixelated]

92. You'll never really see anything with tunnel vision.

Let food be thy medicine-Hippocrates

[EvolveOrConvolve]

95. I don't understand what that means...

Tunnel vision regarding what? And what does food and Hippocrates have to do with anything?

:shrug:

[kimmerspixelated]

97. Hmmm... Look up the teachings of Hippocrates

The father of modern medicine! The right foods are healing, it's ancient wisdom.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

99. Do you think that Hippocrates' advancement of the "humours"

is valid in modern day medicine? He may have been revolutionary for his time, but what do his ancient methods (many since proven to be false) have to do with the way cancer is cured in the year 2010?

[Robb]

43. What's the "etc"? Chemo?

[MissB]

46. Bwahahaha!

Perfect! :rofl:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

68. LOL

[GoneOffShore]

49. Uh - Okay - Yeah - Sure

Have you done it? Are you willing to trust your loved one to a "A macrobiotic diet, etc. "?
You're ready to watch them die slowly and horribly?

[Crunchy Frog]

51. Didn't work for Gilda Radner.

[BrklynLiberal]

57. How are yorr adorable Crunchy Froglets doing? they must be much bigger than in that pic by now.

[cliffordu]

53. Sure it will.

Glad you're not my doctor...

[dotymed]

66. I am a smoker, ex-whoremonger

you name it.
I don't proscribe to a lot of theology or "miracle cures."
I have lost two family members to non-Hodgkin's and my aunt has been living with it for about 5 years. Her husband died (relatively) quickly from it. Her daughter, w/5 young children was able to live a decent life, far beyond medical expectations, 12 years after diagnosis, mostly symptom free, before she passed.
My cousin and now her mother refused traditional medical treatment. They opted for a diet based cure (macrobiotic?). Their lives and symptoms were were greatly improved. All I know is that their food was expensive. My cousin was able to raise (mostly) her children before dying. I don't know the specifics, but their diet was miraculous..

[fascisthunter]

13. nah... it will never kill the industry

they will always be a necessity for those who need drugs.

[glinda]

36. Pharma will make sure it will never see the light of day here.

[laughingliberal]

7. Very good news! eom

[sharp_stick]

9. NIce to see

I went to school with some of guys that discovered this.

It's still very early to be drawing any conclusions about the drug though.

[fascisthunter]

12. my chest just got very heavy from reading this..

I am happy with this news but torn because it may have saved my father's life... all I can do is wipe the tears from my eyes. What a helpless feeling.

[FailureToCommunicate]

17. Same for me regarding my recently departed younger brother. I know 'hope springs

eternal' but it's a little late in coming this Spring.

Sorry to hear about your father.

[fascisthunter]

27. right back at you

what burns me up, was how good of man my father was... I wish folks like him could stick around longer, they make the World a much better place.

I too am sorry for your loss. All we can do is hold onto our memories of them, and live through their good qualities.

[goclark]

30. Please let this be a piece of the puzzle

Please :cry:

[patrice]

33. me too

It's been less than a year, since my Paul passed on, if we could have figured out how to have helped him to hold on just a little longer . . .

I'm hopeful for others, but not happy.

[xchrom]

15. Awesome! Nt

[greiner3]

18. Let me see;

Produced in Canada. That means the US FDA needs to approve its use here. In which decade do you think it will be approved if it acts like the article says?

[villager]

20. Yet consider the uptick in medical tourism!

;-)

[truedelphi]

32. Approximately the first few years of

The twenty fourth millenium... Give or take a month or two

[Old Troop]

19. Good news regardless of who developed it. When I was being

treated for advanced lymphoma, the doc said that very soon cancer will be seen as a chronic rather than terminal condition. I guess they're getting closer.

[wolfgangmo]

78. Wow.

Chronic.

That means a life time of painful, debilitating, and expensive treatments. Jackpot. Time to reinvest in big pharma. They are taking the long view.


The truly sad thing here is that we know how to prevent almost all cancers. The SAD diet is the only one proven to lead to illness and yet we insist on eating it. Too bad it doesn't contain much in the way of food.

[bongbong]

22. Don't get your hopes up

I hate to say this, but the stock hasn't budged in a long time (incl today). If this was a miracle cure, the stock would've gone up 100x instantly.

Small biotechs can double or more in a few hours based on just vague rumors of success with a 10 person test group. ONCY hasn't moved on this news.

Caveat: I might be wrong.

[On the Road]

25. That is an Interesting Observation

I don't always connect those two worlds. May do some research and put a buy stop order on it in case it does start to skyrocket.

[glinda]

89. True. When Bush was going to win, Drug Co. stocks went through the roof.

[BrightKnight]

71. 14 employees, no apparent PE,

low trade volume...

Biotech companies are all in the miracle cure business. I hope that they have something and the stock value goes through the roof. I'll pass on the investment opportunity.

[metapunditedgy]

23. *Why* is reolysin (supposedly) effective?

Article doesn't give much information and I'm curious.

[defendandprotect]

28. k

[colsohlibgal]

29. Maybe Close?

To mastering this horrible affliction. We can at least hope so, and this report is so encouraging.

[SocialistLez]

34. I wonder how much it will cost.

I really don't want cancer.
It's one of the few things that scares me.

If I can't afford the cancer drugs, I can always kill myself.
"WE'RE NUMBER 1! WE'RE NUMBER 1!":eyes: :eyes:

[cindyperry2009]

37. This is tremendous news

for those who are ill I am very happy you will get help. I just wish it was here about six years earlier to have helped my dad in time. Now i am alone.

[Aaria]

39. After Moms bout with cancer I did a lot of reading, and there are cures

for cancer but no one makes any money from them, and there is an army of poo poo'ers paid to cast doubt about them. So if this will help anyone you know pass it on or bookmark it, you may need it someday. google: Kelly Eidiem Hub, how I cured cancer. The information there is very helpful, for instance. Did you know that the same enzyme is released in your body when you have cancer as an expectant mothers? Think you may have cancer, grab a preg. test and see what it says. IF you couldn't be pregnant and it's positive, get to the doc. Then cure yourself.

[Lorien]

63. Thanks for the info Aaria

and welcome to DU! :hi:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

70. Garlic and Habenero peppers?!

Good lord....

[Lance_Boyle]

85. Why do you post this dangerous woo and misinformation?

Don't you realize that you could get stupid people who might believe you KILLED if they should opt for woo over medicine? You should be ashamed.

[Aaria]

94. And you have never heard the phrase, if the cancer dosen't kill you the Chemo will?

Chemo only has a 5% success rating, reaks total hell on your immune system, why wouldn't you want to try something natural? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result. This is a food, if it didn't work break out the chemo. UCLA did a study and found Caspian oil kills cancer cells and leaves the healthy cells alone, they also found that if it is shot into the pancreas of mice with type 2 diabetes it cleaned out the fibrin fibers and the pancreas was returned to healthy function. Man made isn't always better.

[northernlights]

40. link to clinical trials in US and UK

for those for whom it may be in time. :hug:

http://www.oncolyticsbiotech.com/clinical.html

[FourScore]

44. Yea! Another cure for cancer!

I'm sorry if I sound cynical. I have read about so many "promising cures" only to never hear about them again.

[salguine]

45. If it actually works, you can be damn sure it'll never see the light of day.

[GoneOffShore]

50. Yeah, right along with that special carburetor and the 40 year light bulb

:sarcasm:
http://scienceblogs.com/whitecoatunderground/2010/05/dont_believe_it.php

[Dubiosus]

91. And along with this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

looks good to me!!

[jtracy]

48. And the cure for diabetes is also just around the corner

Or so I have been hearing for the past 40+ years.

[Lorien]

65. That's what I worry about. So many "cures" disappeared over the years

with no explanation as to WHY.

[pipoman]

76. In fairness

there have been some clinical trials which have resulted in far worse side effects than the condition being treated. One I heard about years ago. My sis is an asthmatic, this drug was supposed to lower or reduce the need for steroids in severely steroid dependent asthma patients, it ended up causing some form of brain hemorrhage in like 50% of people who took it within 2 years of taking it..the pharm co didn't publicize this result of the trials..the drug never came to the market

[Dawgs]

87. Actually, many of those treatments you heard about are still saving lives today.

You might never hear about them again, but that doesn't mean they aren't still being used.

It was just a few years ago that many cancers were fatal as soon as they were diagnosed. That's not the case today.

No, a magic pill to cure all cancers has not been found yet, but that doesn't mean "cures" have just disappeared.

[Sub Atomic]

47. Thank you for posting this.

Hopefully this is the methodology behind the new UPMC clinical that starts in a few weeks.

And I hope my brother gets in.

Great info in this thread - thanks guys.

[MissDeeds]

52. Hope with all my heart it's the real deal

K&R for a cure to this insidious, wretched disease.

[donheld]

54. Make it so!

[Control-Z]

55. But - how will US

pharmaceutical companies continue to make a profit off of band aid treatments, if this is true?

Oh, wait, the FDA will find a way to take care of that - through trials, and red tape, for at least 10 - 20 years.

[Canuckistanian]

56. Talk to me in two years

I've seen too many of these things come and go without another mention.

Pardon my cynicism.

[BrklynLiberal]

58. uh-oh. Can we import it from CANADA!!!????? I thought that was forbidden.

lol

[lonestarnot]

59. yeah!

[Lorien]

62. How long before this new drug disappears down the memory hole?

I've read so many similar articles over the years, but the promising new discoveries always seem to disappear with a year. Cancer is big Business and someone is buying them out! I hope that this becomes the exception to that horrific rule.

[ObaMania]

67. It won't..

You're right about them being bought out.

Sad but true. IMO, all disease is big business and prolonging the inevitable through pharmaceuticals and treatment is more lucrative than complete recovery where chances are, they'd never see another dime from you or your insurer.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

69. Actually that has more to do with crappy science reporting from the media

A team of scientists make an observation (in this case the observation was in a small sample group-23). They report the findings("Dr Brad Thompson, president and chief executive of Oncolytics Biotech Inc, the Canadian manufacturers of Reolysin, said: ''We believe that this study clearly demonstrates that the combination of low dose radiation and Reolysin is well tolerated and that the very high response rate warrants further investigation.'')



The media reports it as "CURE FOR CANCER FOUND!!!!!"

When the results turn out to be more complicated than that, well...

[pipoman]

74. On one hand horray

OTOH, my mother is dying of liver cancer right now...too late to help her..

[hippywife]

80. Oh, pips!

I am so sorry to hear about your mom. Wishing her a peace-filled and pain-free transition. And strength to you and your family, my friend. :hug:

[pipoman]

96. Thank you for your kind wishes my dear..

[valerief]

81. Big Pharma must have killed this already. Can't let it get out to the little people, after all. nt

[ooglymoogly]

82. Look at it from the eyes of the corporate gatekeepers

They lie, cheat, steal and assassinate to keep their bowl of rice unchallenged, in tact and overflowing; Caring not a fig for anyone else. After all this is America.

Anyone remember, in the mid last century, the wildly successful electric car that was reclaimed by the corporate overlords and destroyed to the last one after their mistake became evident, in that profits would be badly dented by this car. Now of course when we have been conditioned to 4 bucks a gallon, a few innovations from anywhere but here, are being grudgingly allowed in this docile country of highly propagandized and over medicated zombies. If I had cancer I would check this discovery out thoroughly: And if true and accessible, get myself to Canada. From what I read, the gain far exceeds the risks.

[Quetzal]

98. Pfizer or Merck

will just do a hostile takeover of the companies in order to gain the rights to the patents.