House votes to expand national DNA arrest database

[IScreamSundays]

Source: CNET

Millions of Americans arrested for but not convicted of crimes will likely have their DNA forcibly extracted and added to a national database, according to a bill approved by the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday.

By a 357 to 32 vote, the House approved legislation that will pay state governments to require DNA samples, which could mean drawing blood with a needle, from adults "arrested for" certain serious crimes. Not one Democrat voted against the database measure, which would hand out about $75 million to states that agree to make such testing mandatory.

"We should allow law enforcement to use all the technology available to them...to reduce expensive and unjust false convictions, bring closure to victims by solving cold cases, better identify criminals, and keep those who commit violent crime from walking the streets," said Rep. Harry Teague, the New Mexico Democrat who sponsored the bill.

But civil libertarians say DNA samples should be required only from people who have been convicted of crimes, and argue that if there is probable cause to believe that someone is involved in a crime, a judge can sign a warrant allowing a blood sample or cheek swab to be forcibly extracted.

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[closeupready]

1. Unreasonable search and seizure; don't they need a compelling reason?

Just being someone who is arrested is not good enough.

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. How does that differ from finger printing?

:shrug:

[rhett o rick]

12. DNA provides detailed medical information and can be used by corporations to make decisions re. you.

If a corporation gets access to your finger prints, it means nothing to them. But with DNA they can decide not to hire you or not to insure you or make a loan to you.

[rhett o rick]

13. Why would you support such an intrusive action? nm

[rhett o rick]

14. They need "probable cause" according to the Constitution. Remember the Constitution?

We had one before Bush and Pres Obama doesnt seem interested in reestablishing it.

[saigon68]

16. What constitution?

[ShortnFiery]

22. We are now OWNED.

This is so very wrong.

One of the few last nails in Americans' Civil Liberties coffin. :cry:

http://yorick.infinitejest.org:81/1/img/card-bill_of_rights.jpg

[Iowa]

2. This is an outrage...

They continue to chip away at our civil liberties and move us toward a police state.

[madmusic]

3. DNA sample required for driver's license or ID?

It's inevitable. Some will refuse and not drive or whatever, then gradually, as everyone else is so obedient, they will cave. Then your DNA profiles will burst like a mushroom cloud like the Social Security card did, then they can do some really scientifically based eugenics.

It's going to happen and fairly soon. It really is.

[boppers]

5. DNA samples are already taken at birth.

Eugenics is an old code word, created before DNA was actual science.... it'll be interesting to see what this wave brings us in the next 20 years, now that we are actually mapping genes.

[rhett o rick]

17. DNA is taken at birth? When did they start that? And do they provide it to a data bank? Links? nm

[No Elephants]

18. boppers is funny.

[rhett o rick]

20. My first encounter. Lots of laughs. nm

[MilesColtrane]

4. American citizens are the frogs in the pot of water.

The heat is being raised so gradually that we'll boil before we jump out.

Just another step toward totalitarian fascism.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

6. Truly disgusting

[Hell Hath No Fury]

7. "....arrested for but not convicted..."

That should chill every American to the bone. Thanks for selling out my privacy once again, Dems. :mad:

[BadgerKid]

8. How about including all public officials before serving? n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Meh.

It's like fingerprinting.

[ShortnFiery]

25. Yeah, shut up Citizen and serve your masters in Government-Corporate USA!

http://yorick.infinitejest.org:81/1/img/card-panopticon_state.jpg

[ProSense]

11. The 32 no votes were Republicans

Roll Call

[Flaneur]

15. Too bad no Democrats voted against this creeping Big Brotherism.

[No Elephants]

19. So, not even the Progressive Caucus voted against this? Not even Kuch?

[ShortnFiery]

24. I lost hope in Dennis Kucinich ...

ever since his recent "plane ride" on Air Force One. :(

[truthisfreedom]

21. If Al Franken signs an equivalent bill in the Senate...

I want him to explain to my face exactly why he did.

And exactly how my DNA information is going to be protected from being used against me by corrupt police, officials, and corporations.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Even the establishment democrats have abdicated their power to large corporations.

By tracking us, they can control us.

Welcome to the POLICE STATE?

More and more we are going to realize this ... I hope and pray the American People stand up in unison and say "NO MORE!" before it's too late.

http://yorick.infinitejest.org:81/1/img/card-liberty_officers.jpg