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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:29 AM
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Costa Mesa declares itself a 'rule of law' community
Source: LA Times

Costa Mesa has sought for several years to reduce the number of illegal immigrants within its borders by regulating day laborers, asking police to check the immigration status of people they stop and limiting the number of soccer fields in parks.

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The Costa Mesa City Council has voted unanimously to declare itself a "rule of law" community, further widening the divide over illegal immigration in the central Orange County city. This week's resolution follows an April news conference in which Mayor Allan Mansoor called for stricter regulations to catch illegal immigrants living, working and driving in the city.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0520-costa-mesa-immigration-20100520,0,5482036.story?track=rss




No irony in the fact that they are called 'Costa Mesa'...which literally means "coastal table" in Spanish. (There must be no more room at the table)

So, I guess we need to boycott these idiots too if 'limiting the number of soccer fields in parks' is their way of saying 'I want my country back'. Let's see, so we need to be sure and avoid the big ones: Southcoast Plaza, the Orange County Fair (July) & the Pacific Amphitheater... for starters.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:33 AM
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1. I hope AYSO kicks their @ss.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:33 AM
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2. And those who spoke against the resolution, the Mayor described as "reckless". . .
The resolution passed despite pleas from community members. No one in the audience spoke in favor of it.

"Immigrants are part of America," Silvia Hernandez told the council. "We work, pay taxes, go to church and participate in our communities. We need a solution that brings people out of the shadows."

"Americans across the political spectrum agree that our immigration system needs fixing," said Keturah Kennedy. "It is unrealistic to deport the 12 million undocumented residents of our country. Workable solutions must include a realistic pathway to citizenship for those who are currently working, paying taxes and learning English. We need all the residents of Costa Mesa to have full economic and civic participation to help our city thrive."

Mansoor dismissed residents' comments as reckless, adding that they do not reflect "what's being introduced tonight." He said the resolution was aimed at setting the tone for a strong anti-illegal immigration policy both now and in the future.


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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:43 AM
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3. I'll have to boycott my in-laws I guess. Well we were going to invite them for Thanksgiving this
Edited on Thu May-20-10 02:55 AM by county worker
year. Their kids play soccer though. Do "real" Americans play soccer?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:51 AM
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4. No one in the audience spoke in favor of it.
The resolution passed despite pleas from community members. No one in the audience spoke in favor of it.

"Immigrants are part of America," Silvia Hernandez told the council. "We work, pay taxes, go to church and participate in our communities. We need a solution that brings people out of the shadows."

"Americans across the political spectrum agree that our immigration system needs fixing," said Keturah Kennedy. "It is unrealistic to deport the 12 million undocumented residents of our country. Workable solutions must include a realistic pathway to citizenship for those who are currently working, paying taxes and learning English. We need all the residents of Costa Mesa to have full economic and civic participation to help our city thrive."

Mansoor dismissed residents' comments as reckless, adding that they do not reflect "what's being introduced tonight." He said the resolution was aimed at setting the tone for a strong anti-illegal immigration policy both now and in the future.


:banghead:


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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:09 AM
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5. Irony is if they are paying payroll taxes they must be using forged documents.
Really you can't be an illegal immigrant without breaking a whole list of laws. Driving without a license, using false social security numbers, not paying taxes. It is impossible to be an illegal immigrant who breaks no laws.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:35 AM
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6. What's ironic about breaking laws? You know what's actually ironic, though?
Edited on Thu May-20-10 04:00 AM by No Elephants
Bet their employers are breaking a lot of laws, too. Perhaps even supply the allegedly forged documents. Yet Costa Mesa, a self-proclaimed "rule of lawcommunity" doesn't seem the least bit concerned about their lawlessness.

Neither do most people who seem obsessed with undocumented immigrants (sometimes incorrectly labeled "illegal immigrants).

Wonder why the vast discrepancy.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:35 AM
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9. Oh I'd like to throw those employers in jail.
You can't stop illegal immigration if you don't hit it hard from all sides. It would be easy enough to do if we were serious about it. In this area our federal enforcement is a joke.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:47 AM
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10. I agree
The employers need to be thrown in jail also, but it seems that Costa Mesa will only follow the rule of law as long as no one's profits are affected.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:41 AM
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14. Almost nobody drives on an interstate highway without breaking laws
People often break laws.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:46 AM
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7. So, no one present supported the resolution, but the Mayor and City Council passed it anyway?
Edited on Thu May-20-10 03:53 AM by No Elephants
Ya know, I don't recognize the name Mansoor from the Mayflower's passenger list.

I wonder where Mansoor's folks hailed from. Are their "papers in order?" Are his?

Soccer? :wtf:


My son grew up--in Massachusetts-playing soccer.


So, now, we've added bigotry about sports to bigotry about people? Racism, ethnocentrism AND sportism?


Seriously, folks, just how much hating do you assume our bodies and minds can take?


Orange County, California. *shakes head*
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:08 AM
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8. first 'softball', and now 'soccer' - tea bagger code words know no end

and then Reagan, the granter of amnesty, suddenly forgotten by the tea baggers who supposedly worship the ground he walked on.

selective memories, what little brain power they have left

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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:25 AM
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12. I thought the same thing. Doesn't sound like HIS folks were WASPs
Years ago, a bunch of us soccer parents approached the local school board about starting a soccer program at the local high school. We volunteered to fund all costs of uniforms, equipment, travel. A parent who was also a teacher offered to be coach. School board refused to consider it because, as one board member told us, "We don't want no Messican sports in the school."


TG
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:19 AM
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11. UGH! I am ashamed of my former city!!!!!!!
for shame, Costa Mesa!! :-(
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:26 AM
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13. Shall we tell them what we think? Here is a link to their emails:
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 03:46 PM
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15. thanks for posting that - very helpful indeed /nt
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