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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:53 AM
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White House: No 'improper conduct' on Sestak
Source: MSNBC

Top Obama lawyers release report on exchange with Senate candidate

WASHINGTON - Former President Bill Clinton was enlisted by the White House to speak with a Pennsylvania lawmaker about dropping his primary challenge against Sen. Arlen Specter in exchange for a job, NBC News reported Friday.

A memorandum from the White House's top lawyer confirmed that Clinton "agreed to raise with Congressman Sestak options of service on a Presidential or other Senior Executive Branch Advisory Board."

...

White House counsel Bob Bauer wrote in a report prepared after a review of the matter "We have concluded that allegations of impropoer conduct rest of factual errors and lack a basis in the law."

The positions discussed, the White House said, would have been unpaid.

Speculation had centered around a possible suggested appointment for the former admiral as the Secretary of the Navy. Bauer refuted that claim, writing that "at no time was Congressman Sestak offered, nor did he seek, the position of Secretary of the Navy."

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37381922/ns/politics-white_house/



WH memo here: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/___Politics_Today_Stories_Teases/Sestak%20Memorandum.pdf

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:56 AM
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1. Let's bring the newscycle back to the only thing that should be discussed
BP and their continuing lies and coverups. I know BP would just love to have this newscycle end and our attention to be drawn elsewhere and I say, No.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:42 AM
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10. Absolutely. All allegations of misconduct need to be immediately swept under the rug.
That's the White House's job.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 07:14 PM
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22. You don't seem newtothegame at all
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:49 AM
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26. no joke---this "Sestak story" is deliberately contrived to take heat off BP & coastal oil drilling
Assholes
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:02 AM
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2. "You right-wing whack-job hypocrites can go pound sand." - White House
Edited on Fri May-28-10 11:04 AM by SpiralHawk
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:03 AM
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3. They may say it's not improper
but it's a federal felony to offer someone a bribe (in this case a federal job) to drop out of an election, and government jobs aren't supposed to be traded as a quid pro quo, either.

This is extremely serious stuff - we're talking impeachable offense here. There are limits to what is fair game for political horse trading and both ends of this transaction are way over the line.

If there's a better explanation, they better come up with it quick, as this alone can hand Specter's seat back to the GOP, to say nothing of the ongoing damage to the administration.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:05 AM
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4. "z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z." - Sensible People Who Endured Bush and have O tolerance for hypocrisy
eom
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tqla Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:12 AM
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5. did you read this part?
"White House counsel Bob Bauer wrote in a report prepared after a review of the matter "We have concluded that allegations of improper conduct rest of factual errors and lack a basis in the law." The positions discussed, the White House said, would have been unpaid.

As far as I know this happens all the time. This is just another tactic in the Right's desire to impeach every Democratic president from here on out. We should have nailed Bush when we had he chance.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 10:12 AM
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30. If Reply 16 cites the only relevant statute, I agree with Bauer, However, I would never simply take
the word of White House counsel that the WH acted properly, any more than I would just take the word of an accuser that the WH acted improperly.
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Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:33 AM
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7. "Impeachable offense"???!! Ha, that concept is so '90s.
George W. Bush took us into the 21st century, where anything goes.



:yoiks:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:34 AM
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8. If this was illegal, every president in history would have gone to jail.
Laughable.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 06:47 PM
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31. Republicans want a criminal investigation; Let's add a Bushie investigation!
One special prosecutor to investigate Obama and Bush administrations, for the Sestak tempest, and the misinformation, run up and conduct of the Iraq War, respectively, looking for criminal conduct.

See if this is what the American people want.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:41 AM
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9. KKKarl is that you?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:28 PM
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14. Kindly cite the statute you think was broken and
With specificity, tell us how the conduct described meets the elements???
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. USC 18-211
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/211.html

Acceptance or solicitation to obtain appointive public office

"Whoever solicits or receives, either as a political contribution, or for personal emolument, any money or thing of value, in consideration of the promise of support or use of influence in obtaining for any person any appointive office or place under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."


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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:20 PM
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18. None Of these Things, Sir, Apply Here
Appointment to an unpaid position is neither money nor a thing of value. Nor is declining to run in a primary election money or a thing of value.

What this law actually applies to is the sale or purchase of appointive offices, which under no conceivable construction of the events actually occurred here.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:38 PM
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21. Let's not let fact, law, or logic ruin a perfectly good accusation.
I asked the poster to cite the statute, and then, prove that the behavior described fits the elements. Twice now....

Crickets.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:37 PM
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19. As I requested, you failed to point out how any of the behavior described
fits the required elements.


As I asked above, tell me the elements of this crime, and how the behavior described fits the elements.

You assert this statute was broken--so prove it.




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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:47 AM
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24. This seems to be about bribing someone to use their influence to get you appointed to a position.
Edited on Sat May-29-10 09:52 AM by No Elephants
Not what happened. Also, nothing like what you claimed in Reply 3.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:31 PM
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15. It will have no effect on Sestak, who is in no way at fault. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:49 AM
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25. Maybe, but the smear job on Sestak--by Democrats--may hurt Sestak.
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icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:38 PM
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20. Do you think they'll be an SP?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:39 AM
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23. Is it always election time?
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seabeckind Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:24 AM
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6. Legal or illegal doesn't matter
What matters is that this is just one more instance of the good ole boy network that permeates our political system.

I don't like it when some backroom decides who's going to be on my f'in ballot.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:56 AM
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28. This is the crux. Leave it to primary voters. Stop the deals. Stop the
Edited on Sat May-29-10 09:57 AM by No Elephants
"support incumbents, no matter what" policies.

Power to the people. It's our country, too, not only yours.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:53 AM
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11. Sorry. Not acceptable. Shame on the Obama and shame on Clinton n/t
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:07 PM
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12. disappointing

Just picture if Sestak hadn't had such a hard-working, smart team and hadn't won... a GOP party jumper, out to save their own hide, would have beaten a genuine Democratic candidate.

That is what should shame those who set this up.



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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:08 PM
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13. Job was supposedly offered in July
Sestak didn't announce his candidacy publicly until August.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:06 PM
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17. That is not what Sestak says.
He said Clinton called him in response to a candidacy for the Senate. The law says nothing about filing or announcing.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:52 AM
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27. who TF cares what he was offered? Presidents offer people positions all the time
The real question is why BP is not under criminal investigation for 11 homicides and ruining the environment of the Gulf Coast.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 10:03 AM
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29. It's a huge country. It can have more than one question at a time. For instance, here's
Edited on Sat May-29-10 10:04 AM by No Elephants
another question: why were driling permits granted when adequate safeguards were not proven?

But my question and yours should probably be deferred until the gushing has been stopped. Besides, I bet investigation has begun.
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