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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:28 PM
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Brain Dead Man Demonstrates Need For Immigration Reform
Source: KPBS

Immigrants rights activists say the story of a man who lies brain dead in a San Diego hospital is another example of why the nation's immigration system must change.

Forty-two-year-old Anastasio Hernandez and his brother crossed the border illegally Friday night and got caught.

Anastasio's family says he'd been deported a few days earlier and was desperate to get back to his wife and five children in Encanto. He's lived there since he crossed the border illegally to work 26 years ago.

Federal border officials say Anastasio became out of control Friday as they processed him for deportation.

Officials say they Tasered him. Now his family must decide when to cut off life support.


Read more: http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/may/31/brain-dead-man-demonstrates-need-immigration-refor/
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:32 PM
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1. Brain Dead fromTaser??
This is cruel :(
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:37 PM
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2. what is this?
This story doesn't say a damn thing.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:00 PM
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7. little more details on this link
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:32 PM
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10. Thank you
That's why the poor guy is brain dead, cuz they beat him nearly to death.

Desperate people do desperate things.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:47 PM
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3. Thought this was another thread about Rand Paul...
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:52 PM
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4. well if they had sent the entire family back like they should have he wouldnt have tried to once
again break the law of the United States and cross the border once again illegally.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:55 PM
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5. What is the immigration status of the rest of the family?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:56 PM
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6. Since he has been in US for 26 years, I presume his children
are US citizens since they were most likely born here.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:27 PM
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9. He's 35.
That means he's been here since *he* was a child.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:37 PM
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11. your compassion is overwhelming, NOT
but your talking points are completly right wing
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4saken Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:20 PM
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13. How many left wing people need to be a proponent...
for a position before its talking points aren't considered strictly "right wing"?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:44 PM
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15. more than a few.
most taking this particular right wing position aren't left or even center at all

a few yes - they have more reasoned thinking/arguments, the trolls are all about the law breaking and job stealing
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:54 PM
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17. The number of supporters doesn't move the position to the left.
It moves the supporters to the right.
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4saken Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 07:27 PM
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20. Or maybe..
Edited on Tue Jun-01-10 07:33 PM by 4saken
Or maybe the position isn't really in a right/left wing dichotomy.

Those who like to propose such a false dichotomy do so for a reason. It's a typical tactic for trying to cast doubt on a position. Consider a position on its own merits, not whether you have put it in a category that you have predefined in order to add a connotation.
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getthefacts Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 09:17 PM
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21. What kind of person are you?
The guy is a human being, quit with the ifs. Slavery was also legal, you know?
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:17 PM
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8. This is not about immigration reform, this is about police brutality. n/t
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:38 PM
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22. +1
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4saken Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:53 PM
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12. How does this have anythign to do with immigration reform?
If a taser can cause that kind of damage they need to fix the tasers.

No information is given in this article about why exactly he was tasered. Police are justified in using tasers in certain circumstances. This could be one.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:51 PM
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16. Not a taser. Beaten and kicked.
Edited on Mon May-31-10 08:52 PM by ManiacJoe
See the link in #7.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:32 PM
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14. Is this LBN or flame bait? There are millions of personal stories like this
though not this tragic, of illegal immigrants wanting a better life. This boy came here for work when he was 16. Why did he never apply for citizenship? How did he miss the Reagan amnesty? Was he the first illegal immigrant after the amnesty? Then, to end the story with the tragedy of a taser incident.

We'll have stories like this daily, hourly, as there are a plethora. My question is, is this really LBN?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:55 PM
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18. "Why did he never apply for citizenship?"
Edited on Mon May-31-10 08:57 PM by AlphaCentauri
He probably was in the process since he had an 18 year old daughter who might be a US citizen but he was deported for a second time then he could be banned from entering the US for the rest of his life.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:58 PM
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19. How do you know he never applied for citizenship?
And if these stories happen hourly, shouldn't we know about them? Or does the fact that border patrol agents routinely half kill helpless people make them undeserving of notice?
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