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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:18 PM
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Calif OKs rate boost for Blue Cross (13.4%), Blue Shield (18.5%)
Source: Associated Press

California has approved large rate increases on individual health insurance policies for Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield.

The California Department of Insurance says Blue Shield customers face an average hike of 18.5 percent and Anthem Blue Cross customers face an average 13.4 percent increase.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/25/state/n141108D28.DTL&tsp=1
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:21 PM
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1. Big Insurance, Big Oil, Big Finance, Big Pharma, MIC, Prison-Industrial Complex......
I don't know which biz is the biggest blight.



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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:39 PM
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6. All of them, in their own escpecially disgusting way
They are all in cahoots in an effort to bring it all down so they can rebuild it in their image.
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ChiTownChavista Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 08:57 PM
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17. Capitalism is a DEMONSTRATED EXISTENTAIL crime against humanity
Socialize now! It's time for health care Justice!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:22 PM
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2. They're slitting their own greedy throats
Reform will come. Don't ask me when. Or how. But it will come.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:28 PM
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3. but in the meantime...
..."My god how the money rolls in!"
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:29 PM
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4. Too late for many very good, but poor people.
I know many that just can not afford Insurance, hence health care..Many own just enough property so they do not qualify for Medicaid, yet do not make enough to afford Insurance...America...you can do so damn much better..
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:33 PM
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5. And many more who will join them because of this
I don't use the hyperbole often, but this whole "make money off of denying medical care to people" thing is a sin before God. It truly is.

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:40 PM
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12. Poor people? The average person can't afford health care.
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 06:41 PM by superconnected
Many of my co-workers say they want it but it's just too expensive - and that's on the corporate plan. I have it but I'm a single woman and I'm one of the few. I have several co-workers with families who do not have it because of the cost.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 05:49 PM
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7. Bad new in lots of ways. We have Anthem.
Nearly no information in that article. How about the Insurance Commission's reasons for allowing the increase. Some background info on recent industry lobbying and pressure would be nice too.

Apparently the SF Chron has stopped any kind of investigative journalism to concentrate on lightweight columnists and PR agency and political party stenographers.

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 01:26 AM
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25. more complete article
Edited on Thu Aug-26-10 01:29 AM by xxqqqzme
"...State regulators find that the firm's proposal meets the requirement that 70% of premiums go for medical care. As a result, they can't stop the increases, which average 14%. Blue Shield also is cleared to raise its rates....

Anthem said it intends to put the new rates — averaging 14% and as high as 20% — into effect Oct. 1 for nearly 800,000 individual California policyholders.

Regulators also allowed one of Anthem's nonprofit competitors, Blue Shield of California, to move ahead with rate increases — averaging 19% and as high as 29% — for 250,000 individual policyholders..."
more
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-insure-rates-20100826,0,7225011.story

Interesting - from same article

"Regulators in California have no authority to block increases if insurance companies meet the 70% threshold, although state lawmakers are now considering legislation that would require insurers to get the Insurance Department's approval before raising premiums.."

I think I smell a future proposition.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:02 PM
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8. Holy shit.
My Mom has her supplimental through them -- this is really going to kick her when she is already down. :( :mad:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:18 PM
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9. Wish I understood how State Ins. Commissions make their decisions.
Anyone?
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:27 PM
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10. ...just holding the little people upside down and SHAKING the last pennies out of them.
wow...this stuff is just criminal.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:40 PM
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11. John Boehner will fix Health Insurance!
:sarcasm:

Please Vote in November!
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ChiTownChavista Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:01 PM
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18. butcher
he is a butcher. A nazi racist batista butcher.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:51 PM
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13. Grrrrrrrrrrrr. Nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 08:33 PM
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14. life is just peachy for the trust fund generation
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ChiTownChavista Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:03 PM
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19. golf & learjets
with some grey poupon.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 08:45 PM
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15. Hey don't worry about INFLATION! Health Insurance goes up over 13%...but Interest Rates are near 0%
so just go out and get car loan, buy your Dream McMansion and LIVE GOOD LIFE. THERE IS NO INFLATION!

HEALTH CARE REFORM WAS "A GOOD THING!"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 08:47 PM
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16. Check this link for NC Blue Cross Raising Rates for Individual Policies!
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 08:48 PM by KoKo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x418522

Blue Cross raising price of NC individual policies

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. North Carolina's largest health insurer plans to raise prices next year on individuals paying for their own coverage by an average of about 7 percent, the smallest increase since 2007, the company said Thursday.

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina is asking state insurance regulators for permission to raise rates on about 300,000 of its 3.7 million customers who buy their own health insurance. This year, rates for individual coverage rose an average of 12 percent.

Blue Cross is the dominant company providing health insurance to individuals, with more than 90 percent of the market.

The company said while some individuals will see double-digit premium increases, about 70 percent will see costs rise by less than 10 percent. Almost 28,000 customers would see rate decreases.

Customers of its Blue Advantage and Blue Options HSA plans will be notified by letter in October what their specific rate increases will be in 2011, the company said.

The latest rate hike request comes almost a month after Consumers Union criticized the Chapel Hill insurer and nine other Blue Cross health plans across the country for raising rates while sitting on big cash reserves. The company responded that it was meeting a state requirement that health insurers keep up to six months' worth of costs in reserve.

Blue Cross CEO Brad Wilson said last month Wilson said he expects to cut about $200 million from the company's $1 billion annual budget by eliminating open positions, cutting jobs through attrition and early retirements, outsourcing and other streamlining efforts. The company employs about 4,400 workers.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/08/19/636467/blue-cros...

And More:

Aug. 20--The state's largest health insurer plans to hit some members with sharp rate increases again next year, blaming changes from the health overhaul and rising medical costs.

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina asked state regulators Thursday for permission to increase rates an average of 6.97 percent for its 300,000 individual members in the state. That's the lowest proposed annual increase since 2007. About 28,000 people would see their rates decrease, including women in their early 20s.

But rates for some children, men and older members will increase 30 percent or more.

Assuming the new premiums are approved by the N.C. Department of Insurance this fall, Blue Cross officials plan to reach out to members facing the biggest increases to discuss options such as cheaper plans with higher deductibles. Insurers set rates by using a variety of factors, including age, medical history and where you live.

The latest rate increases are significant because Blue Cross controls most of the state's market for individual health coverage. It is also the dominant provider of employer-based coverage, with 3.7 million members statewide.

"If you have health care, you're going to pay more," said John McDonnell, a principal with Progressive Benefit Solutions in Raleigh, which helps employers buy insurance.

Health law is changing

Some of his clients are facing rate increases of more than 20 percent. And not just from Blue Cross, but from other big providers, including Cigna, Aetna and United Healthcare.

It's partly because of increasing medical costs and more people using expensive services, but also because the new federal health law is forcing changes such as eliminating annual or lifetime limits on coverage, expanding dependent care for children until age 26 and more, McDonnell said.

"With everything that's been added, you can't really expect costs to go down," he said.

The situation isn't likely to improve any time soon. As more provisions of the health overhaul law take affect in 2014, Blue Cross officials said they expect rates to rise further.

"We do expect significant premium volatility in 2014 as the industry moves to an entirely new rating structure," said Patrick Getzen, Blue Cross' chief actuary.

The rising rates will likely force more people in North Carolina to cut back on coverage or go without, said Adam Linker, a policy analyst with the N.C. Justice Center's Health Access Coalition. And some of the additional "safety net" measures of the federal law won't start until 2014, he added.
"I'd like to see insurers take a small hit now and then figure out what adjustments they need to make in 2014," when federal subsidies will help the uninsured afford coverage, Linker said. At that point, health insurers also will get a boost in business from new members.

http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.aspx?id=219415
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:27 PM
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20. As this happens year in and year out, people are going to love staring down the barrel of a mandate
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:28 PM
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21. That's 'cause Poizner, the Ins. Commisioner is another republican FUCK!
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 09:30 PM by ProudDad
He's a right-wing republican prick!

I remember this pin-head piece of shit from when he tried to buy the governor's office...

Waste of fucking skin!



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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:31 PM
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22. So if we were to follow the Republican "Free Market"
principle and people said screw you to these companies....would they be allowed to fail?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:14 PM
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24. The problem is that health care is a natural monopoly of sorts
so normal "free market" approaches simply do no work, which is why not a single industrialized country but ours leaves healthcare delivery on the own devices of the free market.

Simply saying "Screw you" to the health insurance companies doesn't work because healthcare is not optional. You can't live without it.


How this country decided to conduct a health care reform in the XXI century says plenty about who we are as a society... regardless of all the bullshit spin people come up with to justify. Godspeed on the poor who need care, and thanks to all those people who cared and tried to make a difference. Little changed in the end... Pastor Wright had it right.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:01 PM
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23. Prop 13 bars raising taxes on wealthy... but they can increase profits for corporations????
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 10:01 PM by defendandprotect
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 07:38 AM
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26. how will health care "reform" prevent this?
we're all going to be forced to buy from these criminals and I doubt there will be any actual way to prohibit increases like this. I live in Massachusetts and it's already the reality, mine went up 25% this year. By law, I have to buy it, but the legislature seems powerless to stop the increases. I called my state senator and they said they were "working" on it.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 06:31 PM
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27. These numbers will translate directly into dead people
Buckle up America! Now that these companies have dodged the public option bullet, they are ready to start soaking as much money as they can from Americans.

We have been scammed once again!
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