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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:10 PM
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U.S. wasted billions in rebuilding Iraq
Source: MSNBC

KHAN BANI SAAD, Iraq — A $40 million prison sits in the desert north of Baghdad, empty. A $165 million children's hospital goes unused in the south. A $100 million waste water treatment system in Fallujah has cost three times more than projected, yet sewage still runs through the streets

As the U.S. draws down in Iraq, it is leaving behind hundreds of abandoned or incomplete projects. More than $5 billion in American taxpayer funds has been wasted — more than 10 percent of the some $50 billion the U.S. has spent on reconstruction in Iraq, according to audits from a U.S. watchdog agency.

That amount is likely an underestimate, based on an analysis of more than 300 reports by auditors with the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction. And it does not take into account security costs, which have run almost 17 percent for some projects.

<snip>

Even completed projects for the most part fell far short of original goals, according to an Associated Press review of hundreds of audits and investigations and visits to several sites. And the verdict is still out on whether the program reached its goal of generating Iraqi good will toward the United States instead of the insurgents.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38903955/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/



and they call this "news"?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:13 PM
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1. Someone got the money.
And that was the whole point.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:16 PM
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2. Yep
After the bad workmanship in building facilities for our own troops I would doubt that those empty structures are usable anyway.

Made for great profits though.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:23 PM
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82. Profits which vanished to a PO Box in the Bahamas
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:17 PM
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3. Bingo!!!! +666 trillion!!!! Ditto for Afghanistan. nt
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 12:17 PM by valerief
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:24 PM
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4. Yep,
Thanks to George W. Bush and his greedy administration, billions went to their buddies and big donors. This is what we got from having republicans in charge of congress and Bush in the WH. We need to remind all americans of this because if they vote the republicans back in, it will happen again, sooner or later!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:28 PM
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5. This is an ongoing problem, and it is happening in Afghanistan as well.
Iraq was a bipartisan war, as is the current escalation in Afghanistan!


President George W. Bush along with bipartisan leaders from the House and
Senate announced the Joint Resolution to authorize the use of the United States
Armed Forces against Iraq. "The statement of support from the Congress will show
to friend and enemy alike the resolve of the United States," President Bush said
during the announcement in the Rose Garden, Wednesday, October 2, 2002.
White House photo by Paul Morse.

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:52 PM
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18. This is the post to recommend a thousand times! The illegal and immoral invasion and

occupation of Iraq was AND IS a bipartisan effort. Both parties aided and abetted the Military/Industrial Complex in yet another campaign to fatten their wallets at the expense of the American taxpayer and the Iraqi citizen. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. There were NO WMD. The invasion of Iraq was planned long before cheney* and bush* stole the White House.

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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:39 PM
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7. dems supported it
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:30 PM
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26. No they did not - they criticized it - nice try though
Bush and GOP cronies got these contracts - yup

:thumbsdown:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:49 PM
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29. Explain the Obama Administration renewing Blackwater/Xe's contracts
and enlighten us as to how there is no collusion involved between the Obama Administration and the merchants of death.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:57 PM
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39. Xe builds power and sewage treatment plants? Don't think so
Fail
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:00 PM
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41. but Halliburton does, and their contracts were also renewed
In fact, all the corporations making money out of Bush/Cheney's wars, are still making money out of Obama's wars (all 75 of them).
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:31 PM
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55. Yeah - Obama inherited a lot of shit from Bush/Cheney especially Rummy's FdUped "Contract Military"
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 05:39 PM by jpak
Obama withdrew all combat brigades in Iraq this month.

The remaining troops will be out of Iraq next year.

I makes no sense financially or operationally to void all those contracts - which supply the troops with food, water, and fuel - and go through a bidding process that will last longer than the US occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan.

But that's OK - we all know Obama = Bush.

not



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:45 PM
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58. Those were no-bid contracts
a transfer of taxpayers money into the pockets of corporations such as the Halliburton subsidiary that built showers in which soldiers were electrocuted.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:51 PM
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36. Also don't forget the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
Passed by a supermajority in the House, unanimously in the Senate, and signed by Democratic president Bill Clinton.

Clinton stated:

We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st century. They feed on the free flow of information and technology. They actually take advantage of the freer movement of people, information and ideas.

And they will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen.

There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region and the security of all the rest of us.


and

If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program. We want to seriously reduce his capacity to threaten his neighbors.


I wonder if Americans remember 1998 more for Monica Lewinsky than for the Iraq Liberation Act.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:59 PM
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40. Wow - quite a leap from that to Bush-era Iraq construction scams
but we all know that Obama = Bush/GOP

not
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:31 PM
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49. For the record, some yea/nay highlights
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll482.xml

Democratic Yeas:
- Anna Eshoo (CA-14)
- Barney Frank (MA-4)
- Joseph Patrick Kennedy II (MA-8) -retired in 1999
- Patrick J. Kennedy (RI-1) -retiring this year
- Ed Markey (MA-7)
- David Obey (WI-7)
- Charles Rangel (NY-15) -now under ethics investigation
- Pete Stark (CA-13)
- and pretty much a majority of Dems in the House at the time

Democratic Nays:
- John Conyers (MI-15)
- Barbara Lee (CA-9)
- John Lewis (GA-5)
- Cynthia McKinney (GA-4) -left the House in 2003; returned for 2005-2007 session; ran for President as a Green in 2008
- Nancy Pelosi (CA-8) -now Speaker of the House
- Maxine Waters (CA-35) -now under ethics investigation
- and the more liberal wing of the Democratic Party; these all should be familiar names

Republican Nays:
- Roscoe Bartlett (MD-6) -has consisently gotten high conservative ratings by the American Conservative Union and National Journal
- Helen Chenoweth (ID-1) -known as a hardline conservative, she retired in 2001.
- Terry Everett (AL-2) -86% lifetime by ACU
- John Hostettler (IN-8) -Part of the "conservative class of 1994" and retired in 2007 and lost 2010 Republican primary for Evan Bayh's former Senate seat
- Ray LaHood (IL-18) -now Obama's Secretary of Transportation and has gotten a 69.85% from ACU
- Ron Paul (TX-14) -the most libertarian representative who's always opposed the Iraq War and advocates trimming defense; 82.4 from ACU
- Richard Pombo (CA-11) -lost the 2006 House election to Jerry McNerney (D). Running for the House in CA-19 even though he doesn't even live there! 97% from the ACU.
- James T. Walsh (NY-25) -retired in 2009; 65.71% from ACU lifetime (treading into Rockefeller territory??)

Interestingly, both the far-left and far-right members of Congress have voted no on the ILA.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:22 PM
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48. DLC's neoliberals are the soulmates of neocons
Don't forget that our Democratic Congress passed similar resolutions in regards to Iran.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #26
66. Oh, they criticized it....
they just didn't try to stop it.:banghead:
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:10 AM
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77. I respectfully recommend you go back and look at the vote count
on the Joint Resolution to authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces against Iraq. It had lots of Dem support.

In fact here's a wiki link that does have the the vote count about half way down on the left side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:51 PM
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17. And then we made sure not to tax their ill-gotten gains.
Unpatriotic war profiteer parasites bleeding the American treasury.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:06 PM
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22. Exactly - that money
wasn't wasted. It was always intended to go where it did, into the pockets of cronies, misfits and trust funders, Who do they think kept the stock market propped up; what about all those millions flowing into re-election coffers. You can be certain saurove kept track of it all. It's now funding his wingnut candidate selection group.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:16 PM
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24. HALLIBURTON AND its subsidies got the money which
was the only trickle down action we know worked...it trickled down into Cheney's pocket. You know those 43,000 shares he kept in Halliburton stock. Who said he could be discriminary and not vote for pay offs to Halliburton. WHY do you think he gave them all thos no bids contracts. Trickle trickle and floodying down to Cheney that's why. Bush wanted to be sure all his corporation buddies filled their pockets with taxpayer money. Else why would he over look 9 billion dollars in CASH that disappeared. He wanted it to, so he and his buddies could get their cut.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:29 PM
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54. a three word phrase comes to mind ...
it starts with the word "No", and ends with the word "Sherlock!"
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:28 AM
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71. Halliburton, Bechtel, Blackwater--friends of Dummya and Darth
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:24 PM
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80. They got billions and billions...
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 12:25 PM by BrklynLiberal
Iraq was like a private money tree for friends and cronies of pres shit-for-brains
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:32 AM
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78. +1!
that's it in a nutshell and the reason we were in iraq. follow the money, ALWAYS.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:32 PM
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6. No, really?
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:53 PM
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8. $436 Million a day.. 24/7/365... this is what it costs to maintain the wars..
.. yet we can't afford teachers.. we are throwing home owners into the street.. our roads and bridges are crumbling... and they are coming to steal our Social Security money so they can give it to Wall Street.

Hillary just hired 7,000 more Blackwater guards at $50 Million per year to protect the Embassy in Iraq.

And so it goes.. MSNBC doesn't notice.. Faux News cheers it on and advocated war and the American people..? They are busy praying to Glenn Beck... I mean God.. in Washington.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:33 PM
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56. I watched the "History Channel" talk about the Mississippi river, and how
the ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS is responsible for maintaining the waterways, with a BILLION dollars a year just spent on the Mississippi river, making sure it was cleared for commercial water traffic.

And how much was spent by the Republican-controlled House and Senate (since 1/3/1995) on re-enforcing the levees in New Orleans???
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:55 PM
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9. Our school district is trimming corners closer and closer
Laying off workers and not replacing retiring teachers. Remaining teachers have had pay cuts levied against them. So I'm SO proud that we could pour blood and treasure into the thirsty, ingrate sands of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:03 PM
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21. Government employees
don't usually bribe legislators like defense contractors bribe.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:19 PM
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10. Rec. Getting the word out is important, hindsight or not.

Failure to learn from history......
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:24 PM
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11. No bid cost plus contracts I wonder who thought up this way of doing things?



U.S. Embassy Iraq (aka White Elephant)


Billions if not trillions were skimmed off the top in organized crimes.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #11
31. The whole story is told in a book entitled The Halliburton Agenda
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:53 PM
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37. I can't stand that photo
of Five Deferment Dick licking blood off his fingers with a evil glint in his eyes. He's the devil personified.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:45 PM
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81. Here is the way that picture looks to me


What kind of mind can reap such violence, murder, and terrorism, both what he approved and the blowback that he set up for years to come, and still sleep at night without any guilt out of the millions he made from it all?

He is the most vile and despicable of creatures.


Researching google images for "bloody hands" to doctor the above image, I ran across this favorite moment of mine. Had to repost it. God bless this woman for her courage and determination to confront a war criminal with such a powerful statement.

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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:26 PM
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12. these wars were requested by the MIC. the repooks and dems were happy to comply.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:34 PM
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13. so much was money was hidden it is said it will end up costing over 2 Trillion dollar$ including the
cost of taking care of all the soldiers which they are doing an abysmal job of.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:39 PM
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14. + $1.5 billion that vanished into the night...
In one notorious incident in April 2004, $1.5 billion in cash that had just been delivered by three Blackhawk helicopters was handed over to a courier in Erbil, in the Kurdish region, never to be seen again. Afterwards, no one was able to recall the courier’s name or provide a good description of him.

Paul Bremer had a slush fund in cash of more than $600 million in his office for which there was no paperwork. One U.S. contractor received $2 million in a duffel bag. Three-quarters of a million dollars was stolen from an office safe, and a U.S. official was given $7 million in cash in the waning days of the CPA and told to spend it “before the Iraqis take over.” Nearly $5 billion was shipped from New York in the last month of the CPA."

The waste and theft is one hell of alot more than $5 billion.
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:47 PM
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15. enormous sinkhole for our hard-earned money. And Afghanistan is worse...
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:48 PM
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16. Why, you know, it would have been cheaper not to destroy it in the first place!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:55 PM
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19. The money wasn't wasted, it was stolen
The war was a fraud perpetrated on a massive scale.

Contractors reaped the stolen loot and the taxpayers were left with the bill.


Let's all thank Bush and Cheney on the success of their racket.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 01:58 PM
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20. You can bet there are some beautiful McMansions and yachts
in Texas and Palm Beach owned by Halliburton,Bechtel, etc. Bush robbed the treasury for his red state buddies.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:21 AM
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74. ...or Dubai.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:09 PM
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23. No bid contracts, understaffed/underqualified auditors,
Paul Bremer stealing billions in cash, and Paul Wolfowitz as head of the World Bank, making sure the Iraq Development Fund trough is well stocked while denying support to other countries to combat "corruption".
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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:26 PM
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25. Rebuilding?
What about all the billions wasted destroying Iraq?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:37 PM
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27. That was shock & awe!


Why do you hate America?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:39 PM
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28. Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it's not news
Without plenty of reminders of how badly things were done in Iraq, it gives the republicans a free pass to declare it a "sucess", and therefore (re)justify Bush and everything that was done under him.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:01 PM
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30. Enough said.
"Christensen acknowledged that mistakes have been made. But he said steps have been taken to fix them, and the success of the program will depend ultimately on the Iraqis — who have complained that they were not consulted on projects to start with."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:07 PM
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32. It's OK, we will just cut Social Security to pay for it.
Right, politicians?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:12 PM
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33. "Waste" implies unintentional screw up, not, it was a give-away to the M-I Complex.
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:39 PM
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34. Hey.Maybe war is a racket.Nah.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:48 PM
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35. All these projects were propaganda to say all the good we are doing over there.
How many of you have read letters from junior enlisted and junior officers saying that only the bad news is covered and not the new schools, hospital, roads, etc being built? Special ops started putting out a newspaper in Iraq pushing out all the projects that the US were doing. News stories done by special ops were picked up by AP and printed word for word. etc, etc.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 03:54 PM
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38. Meanwhile, this country falls apart at the seams.
Wish we would have used that money to rebuild our own country.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:02 PM
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42. And now states are cutting essential services and education funding for want of a few billions
talk about having warped priorities!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 10:16 PM
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68. Check it out. What less than $5 billion would buy the people
of Virginia as just one example. (4.6 billion, actually-- for proposed total Iraq and Afghanistan war spending by Virginians in FY2011):

893,911 People Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR

64,961 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR

608,620 Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for One Year

467,782 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR

832,062 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR

1,614,101 Children Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR

609,256 Head Start Slots for Children for One Year OR

820,180 Households with Renewable Electricity - Solar Photovoltaic for One Year OR

2,187,148 Households with Renewable Electricity-Wind Power for One Year OR

75,441 Police or Sheriff's Patrol Officers for One Year OR

82,685 Firefighters for One Year

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/tradeoffs?location_type=1&state=51&program=707&tradeoff_item_item=999&submit_tradeoffs=Get+Trade+Off

Completely nauseating.





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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 10:18 PM
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69. exactly!
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 10:19 PM by Vehl
think of what could have happened if the money spent on IRaq war was spent on the nation?
The republicans are damn hypocrites
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ctwayne Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:07 PM
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43. Where are the Indictments?
It is quite obvious that the military contractors under Bush and the Republicans wasted or robbed billions of taxpayers dollars. It is equally obvious that the Obama administration has done little to prosecute these crooks or to try and recover the money.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:13 PM
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44. Nation Building 101
Wreck 'em & rebuild 'em.

That is America.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:13 PM
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45. "Conservatives" LOVE spending money. They put the 'moron' in oxymoron.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:16 PM
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46. But we have to cut SS right now to save the economy.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:18 PM
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47. as you said;
this is news to whom?
:shrug:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:32 PM
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50. It was a scheme to loot the American tax payer and pay off War contractors.
Mission Accomplished indeed.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:45 PM
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51. Wasted? this implies that it has come to a halt
which I sincerely doubt
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:51 PM
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52. That subject line should be - 'US pays billions of taxpayer dollars to
corrupt contractors, corrupt military suppliers, murderous mercenaries and other personal relations to the republic party'.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:00 PM
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53. This story pretty much makes you want to puke.
The need in this country is so great and there shouldn't be a dime wasted. It's as if the giant pile of taxpayer dollars sent to Iraq was an attempt to atone for the crime of invading a country for no apparent reason. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the criminals should have been tried and should now be rotting in prison. That unfinished one in the middle of the desert would be a good spot for them.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:44 PM
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57. Corporate wars for profits! It's why corporations never want wars to end.
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 05:49 PM by GreenTea
Over 200 corporations were and ARE still reaping in billions of OUR tax dollars.

And why the the rich, the republicans and their corporations are always encouraging more wars for profit and imperialism (stealing other countries resources, installing American right-wing corporate backed leaders and exploiting cheap labor market).

Huge gigantic military budgets, again, corporations making billions in contracts form our tax dollars and crippling our social economic infrastructures with their deficits.....this is all republican deficit raising and it's only the rich and corporations raking in the trillions of dollars at the expense of the workers, middle-class and small business!
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 05:48 PM
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59. Halliburton doesn't think so.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 06:00 PM
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60. OOPS! There it is!!! n/t
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 06:00 PM
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61. Wasted... Is wasting... Same difference?? n/t
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 06:11 PM
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62. You can't get rich on the government dime by actually DOING anything.
And getting a few hundred undeserving Americans filthy rich was the entire point of the operation.

Mission accomplished.
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Dj13Francis Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 06:35 PM
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63. Immediately
upon reading this headline I was like, "Duh."... Is this news? Untold billions have been stolen. How bout' we hold those responsible accountable!
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 06:36 PM
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64. It was called a stimulus plan for Halliburton and the other corporations
doing this kind of work. That of course is why we have these continual wars - so we can pass out the tax money to the military/industrial complex.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 06:46 PM
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65. We didn't waste it. All of Bush's corporate buddies got it - just like it was planned
this "war" was always a money making scheme. this "war" has cost us more than we'll probably ever know. :(

bunch of greedy asshole republicans got rich off of it though so everything is good right? :puke:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 09:12 PM
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67. U.S. wasted trillions wrecking Iraq. n/t
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:53 AM
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70. It's sitting in Dubai at Halliburton headquarters!
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:33 AM
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72. bookmarked.
K&R

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:07 AM
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73. Nothing surprising here....
Losing billions in cash, overpaid contractors giving substandard products and service, (which cost servicemembers lives). War profiteers, pushed forward by the bush administration that wore blinders for nearly a decade.

It has become the norm, and I'd fall over dead if anyone is held accountable.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:53 AM
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75. They don't exactly waste billions. They steal billions. nt
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:55 AM
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76. Understandable, I have a similar problem
Whenever I put my cash for the month onto skids and ship it abroad, I always end up losing some.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:22 PM
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79. Not to mention the immense pallets of CA$H that were sent there, and disappeared into limbo
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 12:23 PM by BrklynLiberal
We will probably NEVER know how much of our tax money was lost/wasted/stolen/misused/siphoned in Iraq
...
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:25 PM
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83. It's not a waste if you were one of the many recipients of the 'free' money.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 10:26 PM by pinniped
Just tell me where to meet the helo for my pallet full of American cash.

That amount is likely an underestimate....

You mean there's a chance it's not?
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:38 AM
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84. so all of those who "rah, rah, rah" America-"go our team"
When are they going to get it, that Little Boots and his ilk, are not on your team. After syphoning our money into their great corporate con game--when are they going to get that while we have lost our decent jobs and our infrastructure goes to shite--that these cons could care less about americans or this country? They have more allegiance to the great global corporate market than to our country?

Blackwater-XE, Halliburton move headquarters to the ME while they're still getting our money-enough said!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 08:29 PM
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85. Iraq War destroyed this country
the American Empire is over
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Sulis Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 08:13 AM
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86. US Defense Secretary arrives in Iraq. The war is not over?
US Defense Secretary arrives in Iraq. The war is not over?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE68000X.htm

Hm, suddenly enough, I say! Believe me, our big bananas never visit Iraq for nothing moreover don’t make such statements contradictory to the presidents’ words. As fact, Gates has put us up to the fact that this war in Iraq is not over yet indeed and won’t be in the nearest future. Being the former military servant myself, I can say with certainty that here the US Defence Secretary’s visit to Iraq as well as all the words he said there mean much more that the Obama’s official address on the end of the Combat Mission in Iraq, which practically dies on the White House’s website. There’s nothing to rejoice at, I say! The war is not over. And I really doubt that before long I’ll indeed see my brother in the doorways here, in spite of the fact that the army he is serving in was to leave Iraq among the first.
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