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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:33 AM
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Summer U.S. gas shortage feared
From the Globe and Mail, as described by an American expert at a conference in Alberta.

He's talking about line-ups at the pump, and gas at $3.00 / gal.

Summer U.S. gas shortage feared

Sid
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:36 AM
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1. I Can't Bear To Watch
I just can't bear to see an Escalade-driving Republican cry.

*sniffle*
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Misinformed01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:39 AM
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3. The Navigator drivers are the ones that tear me up
and...oh, those poor, poor little hummer folks....

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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:57 PM
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26. Speaking of which...
I was watching the local NBC news affiliate (DC) yesterday and they were interviewing people pumping their vehicles at the station. When asked about the soaring gas prices, one smartly dressed woman in her spotless, big-ass SUV, whined (after pumping 50 bucks of gas into her tank), "Oh, I don't know what we're going to do! I hope it comes down soon -- I just don't know what else we can do!" I couldn't believe what I was hearing, but I felt like putting my foot through the set!

For one thing, lady, get your ass out of that Navigator and into a sensible car. Seeing that you looked like you were dressed for a meeting of the Junior League and weren't carrying any passengers, why the hell were you driving a damned SUV to begin with?

Y'know, it's times like that I think America needs a reality check.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:39 AM
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2. New like that makes me glad I'll be in Japan this summer.
Iraqi oil my a--.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:13 AM
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12. Lucky you
It's a far, far better place to be. Too bad your dollar is worth squat nowadays--about $1.05 per hundred en last time I looked.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:51 AM
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4. I'm already getting a kick watching large SUV owners....
pumping gas into their gas guzzlers. :evilgrin: The other day,
there was a Ford Excursion at the pump next to where I was gassing up.
It took just 21 bucks to fill up my Dodge Stratus...the poor sod
was around 44 bucks when I left... :D and STILL gassing up! What's
the tank size on these beasts? 27? 30? :shrug:
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:20 PM
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21. My husband
bought a conversion van and it usually costs $55 to fill up. He voted for this idiot and he is one of those people who thinks low gas prices are a God-given right in America. I just sit back and laugh to myself as it eats into his paycheck (which, by the way, since * took office has gotten smaller each year in real dollars). However, he's like all Repugs - won't admit he made a mistake in voting for him (at least not to me).
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:33 PM
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28. 34 Gallons?
34 gallons is my Ford Econoline passenger van. 13 MPG = $63 per tank to go about 450 miles. At 4000 miles a year thats like $560 and 300 gallons. It looks like it will last 25 years or more. Got rear ended at 10 mph or so, needed a $400 bumper while the other car was totalled.

Why do people reserve the laughter for the SUV's when pickup trucks are only a wee bit better and Vans are just as bad? I'll call the pickups just as bad since the SUV and Van will sometimes actually have a lot of people aboard.

Yeah 4000 miles a year, my other car is a shoe :)

Make your other car a shoe, you'll save lots on gas and gym memberships.



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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:52 AM
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5. I've heard alot of people saying this for quite some time
but NOT $3/gallon :wow: It's gonna be UGLY!!!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:41 AM
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8. Who knows if gas prices will get that high?
But it sure as hell fun to use Repukes' own scare tactics against them ;)
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:56 AM
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6. It's Going To Get Expensive
Considering most of the food is shipped by Semi plus the dependence of farmers on petrochemicals for fertilizer and fuel for the equipment.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:06 AM
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7. Bring it on
watch the administration's poll numbers drop. Not even the false padding they give the polls will keep him close to kerry if there's a gas shortage. Even the dumbest american will revolt.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:58 AM
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9. Duhhhhh why do you all think Rove pulled out
the Kerry wanted to up the tax on GAS ads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x452778

While the mods locked this one, you can get the link.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:09 AM
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11. Kerry should be asking the
people if they would prefer that $.50 a gallon be going to reduce the national debt or to pad the bank accounts of Bush's buddies.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:06 AM
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10. Gas near $2.00 on west coast of Florida near Tampa... VERY close
to $2.00 for premium. $1.71 and more for regular unleaded... creeping ever closer.

Wondering if we should all take pictures of this event as it is sure to be one that will go down in history?!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:27 AM
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13. I paid $0.795 per litre yesterday in Toronto for regular unleaded...
That converts to $3.06 CDN per US gallon. Or about $2.30 US (at $1 CDN = .75 US)

Mind you, we probably have more tax in our gas pricing.

Sid
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:48 AM
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14. local businesses will suffer people wont go on vacation
the tourist town I live in will suffer tremendously. My sons restaurant he owns (hes a silent partner) will go under, it depends on summer traffic.
It barely makes it thru the winter.
I foresee towns becoming even more depressed as the gas prices go up. It might be a good thing if Kerry counterattacks Bush with some real solutions to this fiasco
But as long as USers allow all their tax monies to be thrown into bloated military spending, this will keep occuring. As long as people live like hogs at the trough, this will keep happening.
a lot of gas station owners here are saying drive offs from the pumps are really bad, getting worse...3-4 times a day rather then the usual once a month.
Hold on tight. lock your doors, crime will increase, drugs will flourish, blackmarket will increase as the monies continue to pour into Iraq fiasco and people continue to want to live like hogs at the trough of oil.
and more soldiers will die. for wealthy bastards to get even more wealthy.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:41 AM
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15. Bush told us he would
get OPEC to open the spigot....

WHERE'S THE DNC AD ON THAT?

THey are already 2 months late on it.

What are people talking about? HIGH GAS PRICES.

What do you have the current president promising during the 2000 campaign? TO GET OPEC TO OPEN THE SPIGOT.

It's not tough to prove a liar to be a liar - you just have to USE THE FOOTAGE.
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Katha Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 11:48 AM
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16. It's already over $2/gal in California
but three bucks? I have to say, I'm not surprised, but that kind of money for gas is insane.

Do any of our older DUers or DUers up on the 1970s remember how much gas was (on average) during the big shortage?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:54 PM
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25. The price of gasoline doubled in short order
It was 38 cents a gallon in my area late in 1973. In two months, people were lining up on odd/even days (according to your license plate number) and paying 80 cents.

It's important to remember that income was a lot lower then, I was making something like $2.25 an hour as a union janitor!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:10 PM
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17. I don't believe it will hit $3 a gallon for this reason. . .
Everytime in the past when gas prices have risen sharply, a price-point has been trotted out and extolled as the "plateau" we were heading towards. And each time, when prices fell short of the mark, the media would rejoice, the oil companies would clap themselves on the back, and everyone felt wonderful that the worst-case scenario had not come to pass. So I believe the $3 figure is a scarecrow erected in the summer to feed our fears while, paradoxically, it will also relieve our minds when prices fall short of this "terror" number. People will be happy to pay "only" $2.50 when considered against the worst-case scenario that was "dodged."
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:13 PM
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18. Even $2.50 is Too High
Strategic oil reseves will be depleted before that. The economic "trickle down" on Li'l Georgie's campaign will be a monsoon if gas prices go up another $0.80 only 3 months before the election.

It'll never get that high.
The Professor
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:14 PM
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19. I find it very sad, though,
that it will take something like rising gas prices and a stagnant employment force to get more people in this country to throw this bum out of our White House. Meanwhile, soldiers are dying every day as are innocent Iraqis and that's not enough to get them to complain about this maladministration? Granted, I'll take every little bit of bad news we can get to get more people on board with how awful this administration has been for our country, but what does that say about Americans? (That's a rhetorical question - I already know the answer and I don't like it one bit.)

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:16 PM
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20. Sounds like the Bushevik Oily Crew is stealing all they can
before the ride is over.

Stealing...all...they...can.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:31 PM
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22. WRONG: its an election strategy.
assumption: BUSH = OIL.

the price is not out of the hands of the BFEE-supporting oil industry is it? they set it. oh that's right, the "market" dictates. sure.

they'll squeeze unitl mid-summer, bush WILL get OPEC to "open the spigots", at least a token, and the price will plummet just in time for labor day & then the election.

people will rejoice, then forget, then vote bush.

watch.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:34 PM
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23. Exact opposite, OPEC is closing the spigot
to rid itself of Bush.

They know the effect.

It's also economics. OPEC is getting screwed by the exchange rate... i.e. he dollar.

20 percent of profits go poof... they had little choice.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:51 PM
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24. if we're at "Peak Oil,"
could someone please let me know? So's I can get my bike onto a plane bound for New Zealand? I don't wanna be around here when the lights (and the computers and the refrigerators and the air conditioners) go out all over America.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:58 PM
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27. Bring it on
I'm unemployed and hardly driving at all.
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