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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:34 PM
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State police: Gunman kills 5, then himself in rural Breathitt County in eastern Kentucky
Source: Fox News

JACKSON, Ky. – A gunman in rural eastern Kentucky killed five people with a shotgun before turning the weapon on himself Saturday, authorities said.

The shooting happened in a trailer park in the Mount Carmel community outside Jackson around 11:35 a.m. Saturday, Kentucky State Police and Breathitt County authorities said.

Sheriff Ray Clemons said the shooting appeared to be a domestic situation but it was too soon to make a complete determination.

Both Clemons and state Trooper Jody Sims say it's too early to release the names of the shooter or his victims. Sims said he had no information about the ages or relationships between the victims. That and other information could be released later Saturday pending positive identification of the victims and notifying their families.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/11/sheriff-gunman-kills-rural-breathitt-county-eastern-kentucky/
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:39 PM
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1. more insane gun violence . . . .
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freebrew Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:49 PM
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3. Yeah,
it would have been so much better if he had used a knife or crossbow.

Maybe a gasoline bomb...
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:55 PM
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5. Meh, the gun grabbers can't resist...
They've completely lost the debate, but they still can't avoid the temptation to turn a story about a murderer into an anti-gun tirade.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 05:23 PM
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6. As Long As Incidents Like This Keep Happening On A Weekly Basis....
....the gun militancy movement isn't winning the debate. Catch a fucking clue.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 05:27 PM
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7. unfortunately - they are happening multiple times weekly
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 05:39 PM
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10. Gun control is dead...
...just let it go.

It's over man.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 06:07 PM
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11. Clearly. There is no control.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 04:36 AM
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29. so are a lot of people
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:05 PM
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16. Yet violent crime rates are at a historic low and still falling
despite record gun ownership rates. Once you get past the emotion, the facts are on the civil rights side.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:15 PM
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20. Yes, they are.
It's both sad and amusing that the other side refuses to admit it.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 05:28 PM
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but it wasn't . . . was it? It was once again a gun
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 05:28 PM
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8. oops . . . .
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 05:29 PM by DrDan
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 07:57 PM
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14. AND, exactly how many people were killed in the US by a knife...........
..........or crossbow (that's really funny) or a gasoline bomb? Get back to us when your brilliant mind has computed all those millions of figures.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:43 PM
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2. The Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of neighbors and family members.
:eyes:
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 04:50 PM
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4. is anyone surprized by this?
gun violence is as american as you can get...
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 05:37 PM
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9. Let me guess: Shooter's name was Hatfield; victims names were McCoy. n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 05:37 PM by LawnKorn
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:23 PM
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17. ... enraged over how his wife cooked his eggs ...
Saturday, Sep. 11, 2010
UPDATED: Police identify man who allegedly killed 5 in Breathitt County
By Dori Hjalmarson, Valarie Honeycutt-Spears and Andy Mead - dhjalmarson@herald-leader.com
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/09/11/1430394/police-identify-man-who-killed.html
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:33 PM
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18. omg - at first I thought you were kidding

but of course it is never just about the eggs, but in this case that was the spark that lit the fuse

oy

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 09:41 PM
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19. "We're serious about our eggs here" might be a great state motto
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:16 PM
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21. ...

or 'crazy about our eggs'

(slapping self for saying it...)
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 06:09 PM
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12. "Only the Police and Military are properly trained to own and use guns." n/t
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divideandconquer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 06:54 PM
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13. America, highest murder rate of rich nations and proud of it
Gun pushers are proud of this, hey we beat former Soviet client states but India did beat us!

<http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita>
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:17 PM
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22. And the reason, according to DC: Rights!
If we just listened to him and got rid of those nasty rights, we'd all safe and sound.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:21 PM
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23. Why, we could even be like Qatar, if we give up all our rights. (bottom of the list.) n/t
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 07:59 PM
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15. "Only the Police and Military are properly trained to own and use guns."
Huh?

What does that have to do with this? Besides, it's not true.


But the "guns in every household = freedom" nonsense has got to get under control.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 11:18 PM
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I'd prefer mandatory training for ownership, myself.
...and there seems to be a lack of training on the part of police officers, if their chronic over-use is any indicator.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 11:18 PM
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26. Dupe
Edited on Sat Sep-11-10 11:52 PM by boppers
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:25 PM
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24. Has not a fucking thing to do with my right to legally own a firearm.
any more than the stack of bodies drunks stacked tonight is a problem with the breweries.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 10:28 PM
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25. Good luck convincing the control-freaks of that.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 12:02 AM
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27. it took law enforcement an hour to appear - that is unacceptable
I am so sorry for those who died because of some stupid asshole and his anger nonp-management.
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Sweet Charming Dem Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 04:27 AM
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28. That is the more pressing issue we should be focusing on than the actual gun issue
How can something like this take place and it takes the police more than an hour to get there? It's absolutely mind-boggling to me.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 10:27 AM
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33. Police are busy, they often have other priorities, and of course...
Edited on Sun Sep-12-10 10:28 AM by slackmaster
...Who wants to be in a hurry to go to a place where a crazy person is shooting?

The job of the police is to protect society in general, not to protect individuals. They also have a right to, and are expected to, keep themselves safe.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 10:26 AM
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32. It's also par for the course. I live in a city. Last time I called the PD it took them 40 minutes.
To respond to a possible shooting in a suburban neighborhood.

It turned out to be a fisherman's seal bomb detonated by a neighbor who had found the device in the trunk of a car he had repossessed.
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 07:46 AM
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30. Total ban now
on trailer parks.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 10:24 AM
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31. If only that family had been on a strict Vegan diet, this never would have happened
:grouphug:
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