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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:48 PM
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McDonald's targeted in US health ad
Source: The Guardian

It is an image to sap the flabbiest of appetites. An overweight, middle-aged man lies dead on a mortuary trolley, with a woman weeping over his body. The corpse's cold hand still clutches a half-eaten McDonald's hamburger.

A hard-hitting US television commercial bankrolled by a Washington-based medical group has infuriated McDonald's by taking an unusually direct shot at the world's biggest fast-food chain this week, using a scene filmed in a mortuary followed by a shot of the brand's golden arches logo and a strapline declaring: "I was lovin' it."

The line is a provocative twist on McDonald's long-standing advertising slogan, "I'm lovin' it" and a voiceover intones: "High cholesterol, high blood pressure, heart attacks. Tonight, make it vegetarian."

The commercial, bankrolled by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), goes further than most non-profit advertising and has drawn an angry reaction from both the Chicago-based hamburger multinational and the broader restaurant industry.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/sep/14/us-health-ad-targets-mcdonalds



Watch the ad either embedded on the Guardian story or at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUxIXQza-dM
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:51 PM
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1. Good, serves them F'en right. Still many don't get what gross SH** they peddle. n/t
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SomeGuynTexas Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:56 PM
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2. Amen. Let the homeless go back to garbage can diving....
I mean, those f'ing dollar menu's are just plain killing those homeless folks.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-09-06/bay-area/23990829_1_dollar-menu-mcdouble-menu-change">SFGATE: Hassle in Haight over McDonald's menu change

The nerve of that company!

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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:00 PM
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3. I like the idea of our government promoting better eating habits, but
I do NOT like the idea of our government promoting a specific eating habit like vegetarianism. This is like promoting a religion.

Fine to educate about things that are clearly bad for you supported by clear evidence, but going vegetarian is just not clearly an improvement over intelligent and healthy meat eating.
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jerseyjack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:09 PM
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4. It ain't a gub'mint ad
It is promoted by an independent physicians' group. Also, please explain intelligent, healthy meat eating.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:56 PM
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10. That group is in bed with PETA
They'd gladly toss me in jail for years for the dinner I'm cooking up tonight.

And intelligent, healthy meat eating is going for the lean cuts, not slathering them with salty sauces, and serving them on sugar-enhanced buns. But, if you're a vegan/vegetarian, that wouldn't make sense to members of your religion.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:32 AM
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13. This!
Contrary the religious propaganda meat in general is NOT bad for you. Some meat and some cuts are not good for you and are bad in large quantities, but then so are some fruits and vegetables.

Saying that a meatless diet is the only healthy diet is just as dangerous as saying that a meat only or meat heavy diet is the only healthy diet.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:59 PM
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19. Thank you
And welcome!
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:50 AM
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41. Poultry and fish.
The human body requires protein, and not everyone likes beans. I think tofu sucks, no matter how it's dressed up. I eat only poultry and fish as far as meat goes, and only 3-4 days per week, twice on each of those days.
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anthroguy101 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:20 PM
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5. Some think it's fun to bring that talking point about a certain person that was also a vegetarian...
But with all due seriousness, ANYTHING is better than McDonald's. I may not be a vegetarian, but I do know the damage this company has caused. Anything that can trash this company is worth it.

Also, especially when it comes to what McDonald's has done, that talking point is moot.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:22 PM
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6. Ronald McDonald is far more deadly than Osama Bin-Laden.
It's a shame the truth about that fact isn't said more frequently.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:33 PM
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7. I was just thinking that when I saw your post. Yeah, the psychological twist
they added by integrating Ronald McDonald and the rest of their do-gooder stuff they do to hook children and to force parents to take them there. I know one father that took his little kids there because he was ignorant enough to think they served all wholesome food. I hope he stopped after I explained to him that Ronald McDonald was not an innocent clown, etc., etc.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:17 PM
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21. The sorded history of actors who have played Ronald McDonald is the stuff of legend in H-wood
The first one was Willard Scott.

King Moody, a long-running Ronald McDonald, was famous for his earlier role as KAOS agent Shtarker on Get Smart, and several other sitcom roles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_McDonald
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:34 PM
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8. I had my Big Mac today since 6 months ago
I usually eat salads and yougurt for lunch, but today I gave in my cravings and ate at McD's. I am 62 years old, 5'2" inches, 102 lbs, and a size 1. I also have a very physical job and probably burn off whatever I eat very quickly, in addition to MY normal metabolism. My entire family going back several generations has been very small and thin.

I will IGNORE these ads. If I want a Big Mac or Hot Fudge Sundae ONCE every couple of months, I am not going to be scared by these stupid warnings.

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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:52 PM
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9. I think you missed it.
The point, that is!

I weighed 265 and developed type 2 diabetes. I quit eating McFood and slowly am down to 200.

Anything in moderation is fine, but have you walked around WalMarts McDonalds and looked at the customers? I bet you don't see yourself.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:53 PM
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18. You have to know your own body
If I listened to what the "experts" said, I would weight 85 lbs and be in the hospital with severe anemia and malnourished. As I said I am 62 years old. Been there, done that in my 20s. Yes, I WAS hospitalized following their "guidelines".

Eat 5 servings of fruits and veggies a day? I don't eat 5 servings of ANYTHING a day. You see they try to make it one size fits all. Well, after living over half a century, I have found that that is NOT true.

Tune in to your OWN body. Know what YOU can and cannot eat. We are NOT one size fits all.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 09:31 AM
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39. 5 servings
seems a lot, but you'd be surprised how small a serving size really is.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:27 PM
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48. That's the problem with these all-or-nothing pronouncements
I've got a BMI of 18, which is considered practically underweight, yet I love hamburgers and fries and indulge in them when the urge strikes me. My 86 year old mom loves french fries, and she weighs 90 pounds. All this stuff about "evil fast food" seems to ignore the fact that we do have control over what we put in our own mouths, and it's up to us to limit ourselves. I will not stand for health food nuts telling me I can't eat what I want. And I can probably outrun them anyway.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 08:46 PM
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11. Yes, eating at McDonald's occasionally isn't going to hurt you.
A Big Mac and a Diet Coke once a month is fine. People who eat there several times a week on the other hand need to get a life.
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 09:01 PM
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12. A life or a wife?
Either would be better.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:48 PM
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15. Unfortunately
Our government still subsidizes the processed food industry and food stocks that feed that industry. It is cheaper for a family to eat at McDonald's than it is to eat real food.

Showing a dead person with a big mac just isn't going to have any impact on this part of society. Eliminating the subsidies and protections and moving that money towards helping people eat healthy, and helping those who need the help to afford to eat healthy would be a much better way of spending the time and money.

I can't help but wonder how many families could have been given a health diet with the money spent on this ad.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:23 PM
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16. Yes, I understand. In many minority and poor neighborhoods it is hard to find fresh
fruits and vegetables and other healthy foods. And many residents don't have the wherewithal to go out to the suburbs to do their shopping. Yet it's easy to buy booze, chips and fast food. That has got to change. I was referring more to fat people who live in rich neighborhoods who could afford to eat a healthy diet if they wanted to.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:30 PM
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17. McDonalds may be the only way they'll get salad
There ARE healthy options at McDonald's if you really want them.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:43 AM
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33. The salad is worse than the Big Mac
For real.

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:53 PM
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52. If you eat the fried chicken version, it is
Does anyone know the stats on the grilled chicken salads? That's what I get, and they're better (at least in taste) than chopping up FRIED chicken (complete with the batter) and throwing it all over lettuce.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:26 PM
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24. In the Portland area, it's the other way around.
The suburbanites have to come into the city to get the good food.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:46 PM
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27. That goes against the conventional wisdom that I have seen, but since you are there and I'm not
of course I'll take your word for it.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:50 PM
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29. Portland is a leader, but many more cities are following.
Not many in the south, where structures were built later, and appear to be much more temporary.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:44 AM
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34. I think it's like that in many, many cities
It's like that here, too.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:25 PM
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23. I don't buy that.
I can make a heckuva dinner for our little family of three, and it will cost less than half what it would cost to go to McDonald's. Further, many mom and pop shops around town offer healthier food for maybe 10 - 15 percent more than McDonald's, and sometimes less.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:46 AM
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35. You are 100% correct, but people on here will say you are wrong
Flamewar after flamewar about this very topic.

As long as you have a hotplate and a small fridge, you can make healthy food for much less than any processed food, either fast food or boxed prepared food. So many people just don't want to take 10 to 20 minutes cooking.

Just look at breakfast: oatmeal is cheap, PB and bread is cheap.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:20 AM
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46. Not in all places in this country
Not everyone has access to good affordable(cheap) raw food ingredients. I can get really good fresh food from local farmers at a nearby farmers market where I live, but my coworkers in San Diego have said the prices at the few farmers markets near them are significantly higher, and the selection is nowhere near as good.

It all depends on where you live, and in the poor neighborhoods I have spent time in in Orange, Ventura, and Los Angeles counties there are few if any farmers markets or stores that have good affordable fresh food. It's really easy to get cheap fast food and cheap processed food like garbage at the stores that are there though.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 06:17 PM
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50. It doesn't have to be a farmer's market.
And I know some poor areas are underserved by grocery chains, but McDonald's is not cheap.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:23 PM
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22. Indeed.
Although, I can't stand McDonald's, I will stop by Burgerville, Carl's Jr., DQ and even Burger King now and then, usually after I've put in 20 or 30 miles on cross-country skis or 10 to 15 miles on a hiking trail. I figure my body can handle the salt and the fat at that point.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:45 PM
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26. Ah, Burgerville!
I go about once or twice every visit to the Pacific NW. Local food, prepared in a nutritious way, by workers who are treated responsibly by their employer. The Walla Walla onion rings are a special delight!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:49 PM
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28. That they are... uh, the onion rings, that is. The other things are good, too!
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 06:12 AM
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31. Don't forget the real strawberry shakes and the sweet potato fries
Can't wait for my next visit this Thanksgiving!
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:52 AM
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42. Ate sweet potato fries for the first time 10 years ago, and I've never looked back! Awesome!
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:24 PM
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14. Far more likely he'd be clutching a pack of cigarettes
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 12:25 PM by mainer
Taking into account the causes of cardiovascular disease, tobacco would be far, far higher up the list of culprits than McDonald's. I don't see why they chose to focus on the golden arches.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:28 PM
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25. Yes, but there are plenty of anti-smoking campaigns.
McDonald's is the biggest of the fast food monoliths, so it represents the cliche. Thus, it makes sense that they would use the big M.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:58 PM
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30. Or a big bowl of pasta
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:51 AM
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36. Why? Pasta isn't bad for you at all
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 07:51 AM by LostinVA
Unless you eat huge plates of it doused in Alfredo sauce (ick).
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 08:49 AM
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37. Hamburgers aren't bad for you either
Unless you eat them every day.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:09 AM
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45. Did I say occasional burgers were bad for you?
I replied to the poster saying pasta is bad for you.

The "Mediterranean Diet" has been deemed the healthiest diet. It has a good amount of pasta in it. I have dropped 20 lbs., and I ear pasta several times a week.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:54 AM
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43. Loaded with carbs. Just like white bread.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:07 AM
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44. There is nothing at all wrong with pasta -- or carbs, for that matter
White bread isn't bread, but there is nothing wrong with actual bread, either.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:26 PM
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47. I'll take the alfredo sauce
Over the pasta. One cup of cooked pasta (and how many people eat only one cup?) has just slightly less carbohydrates than a can of coke. By the time it hits your gut, it's sugar.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:10 PM
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20. I have mixed feelings about this.
People will defend their right to eat garbage, to smoke, to drive without a seatbelt etc. and they have that right. Unfortunately when they run into trouble they are not usually the ones to shoulder the cost of their irresponsibility. In a country where we are looking at over 50% of the population being overweight or obese, the cost becomes huge and the issue worth debating. I've heard the claim that it's cheaper to eat fast food than homemade but that just isn't true. Even if I chose to eat a burger and fries, if I made them at home it wouldn't cost me six bucks for the meal as it does at MickeyD's or other fast food joints. Yes it is expensive to eat well but again, it is less expensive to eat badly at home than badly at a restaurant. And for most it is in fact a choice. Time may be short but there are ways to get a meal prepared for the family and still work a forty-hour or more week. I know, I've done it before and am suddenly doing it again.

Eh, I think you get my point, and I know many will take issue with my perspective. Frankly if there was a single-payer system in place I wouldn't feel as strongly about the question as I do, but I lost my insurance when I divorced and have suddenly become painfully aware that what I pay for services and treatments is utterly ridiculous, in part because I am paying my share of everybody else's problems, and I can't afford it. Most of us cannot comfortably afford it and so if it takes a powerful public service announcement to raise awareness and affect change in our collective behavior, I can't object. Hey, it worked with the fur industry. Maybe it will work in the food industry.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:00 AM
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32. Beef processed with ammonia...
I haven't eaten a fast food burger since I watched Food, Inc.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 08:51 AM
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38. I will say one good thing about McDonald's
It revolutionized slaughtering practices of the beef industry, forcing more humane methods.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:44 AM
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40. One dollar double cheeseburgers are a helluva drug...
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 02:48 PM
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49. McDonalds management will tell you that they do not intend for their customers to eat there every
day. They promote occasional meals at McDonalds as a part of a varied diet. And as someone else already pointed out, they also carry salads.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:28 PM
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51. This ad? I'm lovin it!!!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:03 PM
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53. PCRM? More like PCVL
which is Physicians Committee for Vegetarian Living.

I tried watching "Super Size Me" but ya know, when you KNOW the whole premise is fucked, you tend to tune it out. Everyone who would actually watch that movie knows eating McDonald's three times a day, every day, is going to fuck you up.
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