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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:27 PM
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Unions Find Members Slow to Rally Behind Democrats
Source: NY Times

The Democrats will depend on labor unions — the shock troops of their political campaigns — to offset two new developments this election cycle: Tea Party enthusiasm and corporations’ ability to spend unlimited amounts thanks to a Supreme Court ruling.

Labor leaders, alarmed at a possible Republican takeover of one or both Houses of Congress, promise to devote a record amount of money and manpower to helping Democrats stave off disaster. But political analysts, and union leaders themselves, say that their efforts may not be enough because union members, like other important parts of the Democratic base, are not feeling particularly enthusiastic about the party — a reality that, in turn, further dampens the Democrats’ chances of holding onto their Congressional majorities.

“The problem for us is to really re-excite the rank and file to the greatest degree possible,” said Gerald McEntee, president of the American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees and chairman of the A.F.L.-C.I.O.’s political committee. “They’ve been disappointed that the House and Senate haven’t done more, especially to create jobs.”

It is a measure of the dread among Democrats and their labor allies that several unions are no longer threatening to withhold endorsements from some conservative or moderate Democrats, like Representative Zack Space of Ohio, because they had bucked labor on health care legislation or other issues. Now, unions are generally backing those Democrats, feeling labor cannot afford such a strategy when the Democrats’ prospects seem so troubled.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/18/us/18labor.html?_r=1&hp
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:29 PM
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1. Have union members somehow gotten the idea that the Dems won't fight for them?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:45 PM
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5. NAFTA maybe?
Did you forget your SARCASM thingy?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:48 PM
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6. I didn't forget it, I just thought it was obvious.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:38 PM
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21. don't worry...
good sarcasm doesn't need the tag- I got it :)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:29 PM
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2. Well, when a party that is supposedly your ally is bashing you and busting you...
...is anyone surprised no one is enthused?
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:36 PM
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3. Well...
when you continually get thrown under the bus after awhile you begin to run the other way.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:37 PM
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4. Wow, I can't possibly imagine why that would be.
Next thing you know you'll be trying to convince me that women, gays, and young people are slow to rally behind democrats as well.
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bc3000 Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:53 PM
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7. Shock troops? that seems rather pejorative
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:25 PM
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32. Yep. More liberal media bias.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:05 PM
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8. It will serve Space right if he gets kicked out for supporting Beck instead
of his constituents.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:19 PM
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9. Let me think
just how could that be?
Tired of being mocked and called names maybe? Nothing done for the unions?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:20 PM
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10. Fool me once......
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:41 AM
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28. Fool me a hundred times...
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:25 PM
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11. F--- the UAW, remember that one?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:39 PM
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22. I bet every UAW member does. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:49 PM
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37. Which Democrat said something that suicidal? Must have been some fucking liberal retard!
Hope s/he at least got fired immediately.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:43 PM
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12. $50 Billion for infrastructure, but $200 - $300 Billion for taxcuts to move factories to anti-union
states. Why would they be very enthusiastic?
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:06 PM
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13. What would cause teachers to be enthusiastic about them?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:11 PM
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14. Everyone gets one vote - so union members can decide to get behind the GOP who supports them
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:32 PM
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15. Well, everyone will get what they deserve. In this case: Republican congress
that should be fun.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:12 PM
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18. Obama and the Democratic Congress will get the Republican congress they deserve.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:32 PM
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20. Don't kid yourself - when that happens it will be all of us who suffer. It
will be Obama, the congress, the union and us who will be back in boooshland again.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:35 PM
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16. I can't imagine that the Cadillac tax has got labor ecstatic, either
Yes, I know that the unions bargained a delay in the White House committee, but when Scott Brown got elected, it was time to throw the working people out the window, rather than renegotiate HCR from the ground up.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:40 PM
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17. A chunk of the left wanted to eliminate all Cadillac plans entirely.
They wanted single payer, instead.

In the end, a lot of people are pissed about HCR, because so many folks wanted so many different things.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:30 PM
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33. BS. Medicare for all= Cadillac Plan for everyone.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:44 PM
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36. 1
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:14 PM
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19. There are several D's that need to rally behind labor too

K&R!

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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:31 PM
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23. WIMPS!!
Yeah...this is exactly what will get them ahead...GIVE UP! I'm going to hold final judgment for a bit longer..but if that's what union backbone is all about...then they can eat shit and bark at the moon.

Yeah..they haven't gotten what they want. Have they been watching WHY? Honestly, I'm ashamed to be a union person if this is all the grit these boys and girls have. There are something like 40+ repukkes and a handful of coward-repukkkes in Democratic clothing in the Senate...and nothing gets done. THEN TOSS THE BASTARDS OUT!! Instead, sounds like they might want to quit playing and stick their heads up their asses??

Give me a break. If you think QUITING is going to get you what you want, then you aren't anything more than Tea baggers in Union clothing. This is disgusting. Give it up. Two years of President Obama busting his ass to inch your goals ahead...and you don't like the speed. Well...f*ck you! wimps!

The Unions better show some grit and muscle and get the job done, or this country is f*cked. Maybe that's what they want? Too much glen beck for your little egos? Jesus....how sad. Your brother and sister-ancestors would be ashamed of you!!
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:34 AM
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24. 21 year Teamster
Tell you what, good luck finding Democratic Teamsters in PA outside of Philly and Pittsburgh. Nothing but a bunch of nra rednecks who just love the tough guy rugged individual bullshit of the GOP.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 07:16 AM
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26. Yup, I was going to say the same....
There are a lot of union members that are more Reagan Democrats anyway. These types will either stay home or even vote for the Republicans if they sound a lot of the right socially conservative, patriotic/jingoistic themes.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:20 AM
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25. K&R'd
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:08 AM
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27. If the Democratic Party won't get its head out of its ass, the unions should
field a real labor party.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 06:16 PM
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39. Well, I guess they'll just have to settle for the GOP
being in charge. Like it or not, we have a two-party system,
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:52 AM
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29. I retired from UAW Local 160
GM Tech Center. A large majority of the hourly work force is conservative and vote that way.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:39 PM
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34. Forty years ago, that was not so. What do you suppose changed--
the needs and aspirations of working people, or the Democratic Party?

If people get very little back from government, the party that has a reputation for lowering taxes may seem like the worker's best bet.

Of course, unions ain't what they used to be, either.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 06:08 PM
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38. If neither party will deal with jobs going overseas,
then why not vote for the folks who don't bash your religion and your values?

Remember Obama talking negatively about those people who cling to their guns and God?

Obama's still taking scads of money and spending his time with people who hate the rank and file.

Remember Austan Goolsbee and his reassurance of the Canadians that Obama wouldn't amend NAFTA?

Goolsbee just got promoted to Christina Romer's job.

The Dems left the rank and file blue collar union members a long time ago.

Now they've left the teachers, too.

What's left? SEIU?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:00 PM
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30. and that slack-mouthed, me-so-innocent, why-do-they-hate-us surprise at that reluctance
will only repel even more people
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:12 PM
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31. For this election, the union needs to get its issues addressed BEFORE the vote
or, just like '08, after the election it won't be the "right time". Pass the Employee Free Choice Act and THEN we can talk about "ground support".
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 06:24 PM
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40. Yes, AND get behind teachers...
...instead of scapegoating them to implement education reform. It's hard to be energized when under attack. I am sorry to say that, because I support President Obama...but it's true.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 07:36 PM
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42. I know that the UAW rank and file will never back teachers
I hear it at union meetings all the time. The thought is that teachers were the largest unionized group that lead a mass exodus to non union Asian automakers. It cost the UAW millions of jobs.

For the record, I'm one of em.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 08:04 PM
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44. Actually, my thought was more that administration Democrats...
...needed to stop scaprgoating teachers. You may be right that the UAW won't 'back them' (teachers) but I have to tell you... if unions (all of them) don't unite and stop fighting each other...we will ALL pay a price.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:41 PM
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35. Why do working people think we wont have their backs?
NAFTA
Single Payer
Teacher bashing..

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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 06:59 PM
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41. The problem with Kaine and Emanuel and other Manchurian Democrats is this game

Now they suddenly "need" the base, so we should all just forget about how un-enthused the administration has apparently been in actually getting some populist stuff passed with Congress and a mandate.

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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 07:48 PM
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43. Good. Maybe for once the Democrats will learn.
I, for one, am sick and tired of being taken for granted and being pandered to and begged for support in the months before an election, and then told to go sit and wait and settle after an election. I wish unions would withhold more endorsements and cash and volunteers.
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