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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:27 AM
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Vatican Bank 'investigated over money-laundering'
Source: BBC

The head of the Vatican Bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, is under investigation as part of a money-laundering inquiry, police sources say.

Prosecutors also seized 23m euros ($30m; £19m) from the bank's accounts with another smaller institution.

The inquiry was launched after two suspicious transactions were reported to tax police in Rome.

The Vatican said it was "perplexed and astonished", and expressed full confidence in Mr Tedeschi.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11380628
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:34 AM
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1. Anyone who is familar with the history of the Vatican bank/money is
NOT "astonished".
betcha the story "goes away" very soon.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 02:36 PM
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13. Not if I can help it.
Those assholes told me to shut up or else. I don't like being threatened.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:35 AM
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2. They might need to sell a painting to pay it back! n/t
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:41 AM
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3. petty cash
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:49 AM
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4. The Vatican: Just another word for "mafia"
at the end of the day.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:55 AM
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5. Gosh!
Will their troubles never end?
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:57 AM
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6. Not until they make drastic changes at the "Boys Club"
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:21 AM
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7. It's happened before.....links:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/269.html

and

http://www.associatepublisher.com/e/v/va/vatican_bank.htm

and

http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-philosophy/326975-legal-actions-against-catholic-church.html


There are PAGES more - the Vatican had close ties to Hitler's Germany, and aided many Nazis wanted for war crimes to escape to South America and elsewhere - the bank providing financial aide to get them started in their new lives...

mark
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:32 AM
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8. I though we already went through this with Godfather III.?
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SpeechlessDem Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:52 AM
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9. CLOSE IT DOWN!
enough with that Vatican already, close the damn place down

It's full of criminals and pedos!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:59 AM
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10. it is the biggest Mafia of the world
it does need to follow the rules like everybody else
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:51 PM
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11. Shades of Roberto 'God's Banker' Calvi, eh?
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 01:53 PM by emad
Hope that Calvi's death is not a spooky omen for God's Banker MK#2, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, - given that Papa Ratzi has just departed London!!


Approximately two weeks after Pope John Paul II's London visit ended in June 1982 Roberto Calvi was found hanging under Blackfriars Bridge in the City of London.

Initially Calvi was pronounced a suicide dead cert, his death spawning a host of conspiracy theories.

Several coroner's inquests eventually established that the Calvi suicide theory was nonsense and a murder inquiry was launched.

The significance of the Blackfriars Bridge site was mired in satanic theories about ritual slaughter etc.

But what commentators failed to grasp at the time was that Calvi's body was found inside the City of London and that at that time the head of the City of London Police reported directly to the Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher and not the Home Secretary like the Commissioner of the Met.

Cunning, eh?

Hopefully Mr Tedeschi will enjoy a long and fruitful life free of the complications that felled his predecessor Calvi....

A number of Calvi murder trials in Italy ended in shambolic acquittals and/or not entirely unexpected retrials - all of which have failed to nail the killer or killers.

Meanwhile the P2 Lodge, a satanic/paedophilic branch of Freemasonmry which bankrupted the Vatican Bank and whose members were chief suspects in the Calvi murder investigation, has flourished and gone largely legit.

The role of a Polish religious order the Marian Fathers in Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, UK played a huge part in the theft and laundering of a UK assets portfolio via the then Midland Bank (now HSBC).

This consisted mostly of UK residential and commercial property estates whose deeds were fenced by the Marians in a business arrangement with Trinity Mirror Group's Robert Maxwell.

Eventually the rightful owners sued the Midland Bank and associated solicitors to regain their portfolio.

The Vatican Bank then collapsed owing roughly half a billion dollars.

DU archives are stuffed to the gills with posts about how the Vatican Bank's Cardinal Marcinkus claimed immunity from prosecution in Italy before fleeing to Arizona in the USA where the patronage of George Bush Senior saw him eke out a very cushy life free from any threat of criminal litigation.

And still Calvi's death is an unsolved mystery, offically!

One hopes that Tedeschi's fate will be a lot kinder than Calvi's.





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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 03:42 PM
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18. Surely you can recommend a book or some reading about this?
I had no idea.
Would like to read more.
You may pm if you do not feel like posting titles/links.

:hi:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 04:53 PM
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19. The Broken Cross by Piers Compton is a good source of backgroud info
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 04:55 PM by emad
about the satanic P2 Lodge.

The online edition doesn't carry the original photos but there is two pics in the hardback edition that are credited as having been published in 1979 shortly after Pope JP2's accession in the Italian magazine Oggi (Today).

Haven't got an online copy of it but the pic shows Karol Wojtyla in a string vest and very short tight shorts playing with an Arian looking young boy aged maybe 4 or 5. An older child, a girl, looks on.

The caption for this pic (facing P152 in the nardback edition) reads:

"AN unusual photograph of Karol Wojtyla when, judging by his mature appearance, he was neither a student nor a young priest but probably a Bishop of Cardinal. The identities of the young lady and the small boy are unknown. This and the following picture, which appeared in the Italian magazine 'Oggi' (Today) in January 1979, are extremely rare, which is strange, since they feature 'human interest' that is much sought after by publicists."

The second pic, overleaf, shows Wojtyla in the same string vest and very tight high cut shorts through which the outline of his privates is unmistakable, sitting on some grass with his legs splayed while the same young lady and small boy asre cuddled up beside him.

The caption from the book reads:

"Another photo of the present Pope in the same setting."

IF I can get these scanned I will post the photos on this thread.


The author Piers Morgan died in 'very mysterious circumstances' about five miles away from the Polish Marian Fathers' HQ in Oxfordshire that I posted about.

A link:
http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/brokencross/
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 02:35 PM
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12. K & R (n/t because it would give me a stroke)
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 02:38 PM
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14. K/R
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 02:53 PM
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15. Why do they need to launder dirty money when all they have to do is bless it?
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 02:53 PM by rocktivity
Anyhoo, get Martin Scorcese on the phone--it's time to shoot Godfather 5!

(That's right, Godfather 5--Godfather 4 has been done.)

:rofl:
rocktivity
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 03:09 PM
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17. I like the scene where they make theGodfater a Knight of Malta
The boys put that ribbon with a white Maltese Cross around his neck. Making his bones in the big time.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 09:07 AM
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20. Francis Ford Coppola. nt
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 03:06 PM
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16. Re: 'Some 20m euros was destined for JP Morgan in Frankfurt'
Now, who do we know who is on a massive JP Morgan consultancy, knows the Pope and was in the front ro at every public Papal shindig in the UK last week?

Oh yes, Tony Blair.

Maybe his 'expenses' for fixing up the smooth paypal - er...Papal! - freakshow came to - let's see! - 20m euros?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:56 PM
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21. More like perplexed and astonished they were caught.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 02:32 PM
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22. Gobsmacked that they hadn't cracked the reported 12 month
Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 02:35 PM by emad
police surveillance op!

Looks like their troubles are just begining.

SNIP:
News reports circulated more than a year ago that Italian investigators were scrutinizing millions of euros worth of Vatican bank transactions to see if they violated money-laundering regulations.
------------------------

According to the reports, the Vatican bank had neglected to communicate to financial authorities where the money had come from. The reports stressed that Gotti Tedeschi wasn't being investigated for laundering money himself but for a series of alleged omissions in the transactions.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jZE68q9X88dHYq8WimifrCvtjYXgD9ID4U4G0
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