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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 05:31 PM
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Republicans stall immigration Dream Act
Source: Washington Post

Republican lawmakers on Tuesday stalled a Senate measure to allow children of undocumented immigrants to get on a path to citizenship, and accused the Obama administration of seeking amnesty for illegal immigrants through administrative changes within the Department of Homeland Security.

The so-called Dream Act to grant permanent residency to immigrants who were brought to the United States as children and who have completed some time in college or in the armed forces has been a sought-after goal for Democrats, who attached the measure to an important defense spending bill. Republicans used a procedural vote to block the bill. Immigration advocates accused Republicans of sacrificing the well-being of thousands of young people to cater to nativist sentiment.

Brent Wilkes, national executive director of the League of United Latin American Citizens, said the vote showed that the Republican party had "once again proven that when Latinos need support, they support a different constituency even when the constituency they are supporting does not have a dog in the fight. If my kids are legal and they are going to college, why would I want to stick it to my neighbor's kids?"

Senate Democrats vowed to reintroduce the Dream Act, but odds of the measure becoming law this year are slim to non-existent.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/21/AR2010092104918.html?hpid=moreheadlines
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 05:38 PM
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1. [F-word] politics!
As I posted in the Congress forum earlier, although 12 Republicans (even hardline conservatives like Larry Craig and Sam Brownback) voted for the 2007 DREAM Act, all Republicans voted nay on cloture regarding this defence bill (S.3454). This ain't for the people! It's effing politics!
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 06:20 PM
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2. Well you have to hand it to the GOP. They can keep their ducks in a row unlike...
well, you know.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 06:43 PM
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3. Yeah, darn that Connecticut for Lieberman party.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:25 PM
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15. Wow, We Are Admiring The Republicans For Voting Against DADT Repeal?
Up is down when "liberals" express admiration for those people who vote against liberal measures while holding those who vote for repeal of DADT and the Dream Act in contempt.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 07:01 PM
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4. once again ..
The Party of No... Republicans suck.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 07:26 PM
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5. Good. This bill shouldn't pass. It is an incentive for illegals to come here.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 07:27 PM by w4rma
It's just as much of an incentive, or greater, as an off the books job doing carpentry, painting, janitorial or as a farm hand.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:05 PM
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7. It is not an incentive.
It has to do with those kids that have already been here for along time due to no fault of their own that want to enter the military and to go to college.

You can read up on The DREAM Act here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_Act

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:08 PM
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9. an incentive, or greater, as an off the books job
Well, if those good patriots would stop hiring off the book workers, they wouldn't come here for that.

But at least , this close to election time, Dems can point and say "See, if you vote for Repugs, you'll just get more "no". They don't want to do anything. What is their alternative? You might as well vote for no one!"
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:23 PM
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13. "Good" that children that have been here their whole lives
can't even obtain citizenship after completing college or military service? Sorry if it offends your intolerance to "illegals", but this act not passing harms millions.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:47 PM
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16. There a party for that. 'Republicans stall immigration Dream Act'
Edited on Tue Sep-21-10 08:49 PM by pampango
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getthefacts Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:03 PM
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6. Reid is gotta go
Not from the senate, but he can't be leader any more. This is the second time he uses immigration for his own political gains. Why bring the measure to the floor if he didn't have the votes. C'mon, he knows how to count. He knew it was going to be defeated, together with DADT. Then, he would be able to blame Republicans for it.

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:07 PM
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8. DADT & The DREAM Act was in the Defense Appropriations bill because....
that is where President Obama wanted it to be.
And the reason he brought it to the floor was to show how many republicans would vote against 'funding the troops'.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:14 PM
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10. to show how many republicans would vote against 'funding the troops'.
exactly...


Now if he would just make them ACTUALLY filibuster.... read from the phone book, get the cots out!. Especially this close to elections, it'd be nice to see Dems enduring staying up with them and have hours of video of Repugs blocking funding for the troops over gays and immigrants (two groups that will then back the Dems even more). Just make 'em REALLY filibuster instead of just threatening to do so.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:24 PM
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14. See, Liberals and Democrats Buy Into The Narrative Of Blaming Democrats
The Republicans vote against the DADT repeal, the Dream Act, try to make tax cuts to the rich permanent, and the media blames Democrats, and even liberals give Republicans a free pass.

1. Most Democrats voted for the Dream Act and for the language setting up the repeal of DADT!
2. All Republicans voted against these.

Who gets the blame? A DEMOCRAT! :ROFL:

That is the power of the corporate media. Even liberals end up giving Republicans a free pass, because they are only being Republicans after all.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:19 PM
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11. Who says it's a Democratic senate???
It's a fucking BROKEN senate!!! :grr:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 08:22 PM
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12. It will not be a democratic senate until we have 60 democrats in there. n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:03 PM
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17. That's not going to happen after this coming election
While some think this vote is a win for Reid, it's also considered a win for Repugs in red states who wanted to show some solidarity with the tea partiers.
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