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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:15 AM
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T-Mobile Claims Right to Censor Text Messages
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 10:27 AM by Land Shark
Source: Gizmodo

T-Mobile told a federal judge Wednesday it may pick and choose which text messages to deliver on its network in a case weighing whether wireless carriers have the same "must carry" obligations as wire-line telephone providers.

The Bellevue, Washington-based wireless service is being sued by a texting service claiming T-Mobile stopped servicing its "short code" clients after it signed up a California medical marijuana dispensary. {...} EZ Texting offers a short code service, which works like this: A church could send its schedule to a cell phone user who texted "CHURCH" to 313131. Mobile phone users only receive text messages from EZ Texting's customers upon request. Each of its clients gets their own special word.

T-Mobile, the company wrote in a filing in New York federal court, "has discretion to require pre-approval for any short-code marketing campaigns run on its network, and to enforce its guidelines by terminating programs for which a content provider failed to obtain the necessary approval."

{...} It's the first federal case testing whether wireless providers may block text messages they don't like.

Read more: http://gizmodo.com/5645446/t+mobile-claims-right-to-censor-text-messages



Don't let anybody tell you that the "internet" or wireless bands "shouldn't be regulated" or subject to government "interference." It is already HEAVILY regulated - to the point and beyond of censorship - but the regulation is by private actors - corporations usually - via contracts, terms of service, and "discretion" like that above.

in turn, those contracts, terms of service and discretion they ask government courts to en-Force. CLearly the government has regulatory power regarding the internet and wireless communications, the question is only WHO MAKES THE RULES?

Will corporations be the legislator (via private law called Contracts and laissez faire govt policy) or will government be the legislator
(with at least a chance they will do their job and pursue the common good instead of private special interest)?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:18 AM
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1. They did this during the 2004 RNC Convention in NY
There were groups sending information about protests and incidents during the RNC convention. T-Mobile blocked the messages on the second or third day. It was wrong.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:28 AM
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2. Do you happen to have a link for that by any chance?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:36 AM
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4. Happened to me
:shrug:

I'm sure there's info out there about this, but it happened to me. I was receiving a flood of text messages about where to be and what to do, then T-Mobile cut them off.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:43 AM
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6. Did you somehow confirm that they tried to send you those messages? Or...
Did they cut them off at the level of the organizers' connectivity?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:45 AM
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7. Yes at the time
And I called T-Mobile. They told me they blocked them. It was a massive amount of messages and I think I had an "unlimited" plan.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:33 AM
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13. Interesting, thank you. YOU are "the link" (and there may be others) nt
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:23 PM
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22. Here's an Oct 2009 NYT link on protester use of texting and police response (references 2004 RNC)
It doesn't specifically mention T-Mobile but is a good description of the value of texting for First Amendment purposes, and police responses/abuses:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/nyregion/05txt.html?_r=1&bl
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:30 AM
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3. and that made the news too....
not a peep from the MSM
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:41 AM
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5. Whelp
if they do this full time, they'll lose tons a business and be gone soon enough. Which is one of the merits of capitalism when it works right.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:52 AM
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8. Self regulation by the market is a right wing myth
Thanks for sharing it.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:54 AM
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9. Its not "self regulation"
Its people wont want their texts censored so they either will choose a different carrier or they will switch carriers.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:38 AM
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14. Yet all carriers will reserve overbroad "rights" by contract in order to "protect themselves"
This is just what any normal attorney would do as long as they are drafting a contract that pretty much can't be negotiated with users or vendors -- take as many rights as they can, and then some.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 02:29 PM
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24. IT is precisely what is meant with the term "self regulating" in reference to unregulated markets.
It doesn't work for far too many problems to be the blanket answer its proponents assert. In this case there are many people affected whoo are not participating in the financial transaction. This has broader implications than the limited relationship between Tmobile and its customers.
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:53 PM
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28. Phil Valentine, is that you?
Wake up and smell the T-Mobile-GOP alliance, the stench of this prostitution is reeking the country up.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 07:23 AM
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31. Yes, just like people won't shop at Wal-Mart because their goods are made in 3rd world .............
countries where the workers are treated like slave labor. Or the fact that people will not pay upwards of $70.00/month just to watch more commercials.

:sarcasm:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 10:56 AM
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10. We OWN the spectrum... we can always take it back!
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:04 AM
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11. This is probably more complicated than just outright censorship
I would imagine that if the if the service for the short codes wasn't on the contract language then T-Mobile has a case.

We have blocked traffic on our network from customers who do not follow contractual guidlines. For example, you can't just have a customer sending 100calls per second without it being pre-approved.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:32 AM
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12. Not really - as private entities technically no one has 1st Am. rights (contracts are "private law")
When you refer to whether or not the T-Mobile contract provides for things or not you gloss over the violations of constitutional values and statutory law that applies to limit these contracts. In any case, whether or not the contract provides for it, it is still censorship, the only question is if it is illegal censorship or not. In other words, the legality of the censorship may vary or be more disputed, but it is censorship regardless.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:43 AM
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17. I'm not glossing over that at all, it is not relevant
and it's not censorship...

Carriers and Mobile operators have a right and responsibility to protect their networks. T-Mobile is in business for one thing, that's to make money. I can guarantee you they could care less that it's a pot dispensary. If a person or company is using the provided service in way that violates any contractual language or that is deemed harmful to the network, they have the right to shut the traffic down.

We don't spend millions of dollars a year to protect our switches from things like denial of service attacks just for grins.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:07 PM
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18. Because one has to send a code to get text, WHAT are they "protecting" themselves from?
You mention that they have a right and responsibility to protect the network. From consensual, private, non-spamming texting? Keep in mind one has a first amendment right to discuss illegal activity (not that medical marijuana is illegal, either...)
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:14 PM
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20. EZ texting is the company T-Mobile is providing service to..
Has nothing to do with the individual end users...

It appears EZ Texting violated their contract...

T-Mobile "has discretion to require pre-approval for any short-code marketing campaigns run on its network, and to enforce its guidelines by terminating programs for which a content provider failed to obtain the necessary approval."

I guess we will see how it plays out in the courts.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:21 PM
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21. EZ Texting was EXISTING client, going along fine, review demanded only upon new Med marijuana client
This kind of practice will certainly chill any texting service from going anywhere near controversial speech.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:31 PM
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23. I don't have enough details to know the traffic patterns and true contract violations
but again, T-Mobile is in business to make money and I am telling you, somebody at T-Mobile didn't go..

OOOOH LOOOK..texts about Pot..let's SHUT them down! And then that person would have to call and Engineer and have some kind of paper trail justifying why they would take a live customer's traffic down. (Because on the other hand, T-Mobile has to honor their end of the contract as well)


I have taken customers down myself that were singed up for many months. They sneak in then all of a sudden we start seeing massive call attempts (autodialers)...we shut that shit down. Good way to crash a switch and affect our other customers on that tandem.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 06:13 PM
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27. That's bullshit
They the obligation to send through ANY message anyone wants to send.

Fuck T-Mobile and it's corporate apologists.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:40 AM
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15. My thought also.
In other contexts, an unexpected flood of messages might be considered spam or perhaps an inadvertent denial-of-service attack, so to keep the network working, the company cuts off the offending source.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:10 PM
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19. by definition, "short codes" require a number or text to be sent for a user to receive a text
You can read the brief of T-Mobile and get their side of the story and while there's a bit more detail (as always) it's not all that complicated an issue. They reserve the "discretion" to START reviewing programs. They don't review every program equally. They start monitoring those they have "concerns" about (in their "discretion" of course)
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 11:41 AM
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16. ttyl tmobl & fk u BTW
u iz crazee
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 02:43 PM
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25. k & r
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 03:47 PM
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26. They'd think twice and more if people didn't buy or rent the darned things.
But I think Americans are like us Brits, suckers for corporatist exploitation on the worst of terms, rather than dig our heels in simply as individuals.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 07:22 AM
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29. We need to focus on the wireless end
Edited on Fri Sep-24-10 07:22 AM by Gman
that is where the carriers have their focus and is where they are going to do and charge what they want. Ultimately, wireless is the future and where we need to focus like we have on the wireline end.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 07:05 AM
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30. We should all try switching to Credo Mobile. If you don't know about them, check out this info:
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