U.S. Unable to Document Any Payments for Abu Ghraib

[Hissyspit]

Source: Associated Press

US unable to document any payments for Abu Ghraib

By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer – 7 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Fending off demands that he resign over the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress he had found a legal way to compensate Iraqi detainees who suffered "grievous and brutal abuse and cruelty at the hands of a few members of the United States armed forces."

"It's the right thing to do," Rumsfeld declared in 2004. "And it is my intention to see that we do."

Six years later, the U.S. Army is unable to document a single payment for prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib. Nor can the more than 250 Iraqis or their lawyers now seeking redress in U.S. courts. Their hopes for compensation may rest on a Supreme Court decision this week.

The Army says about 30 former Abu Ghraib prisoners are seeking compensation from the U.S. Army Claims Service. Those claims are still being investigated and many do not involve inmate abuse. The Army added that U.S. Forces-Iraq looked at its records and could not find any payments to former detainees. The Army also cannot verify whether any such payments were made informally through Iraqi leaders.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100926/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_supreme_court_abu_ghraib

[ixion]

1. Yes, Rummy was a drunken, lying bastard, as were so many members of the Bush Cabal

which is why is it so frustrating to see policies from that era continued today.

[Xipe Totec]

2. That's a known known. n/t

[rpannier]

3. That's about the only thing about Rummy I'll miss

His mind-bogglingly weird statements

[Enthusiast]

10. Oh, baby! PLUS ONE!

But Rummy had the blessing of the entire evil cabal. They were all complicit in torture, both here and there. Torture being the single greatest crime in existence. They should swing-to a man(and woman in the case of Condi).

[molly77]

15. The fact that none of the war

criminals from the bush era is a big "tell" that we do not know who really is in charge in DC.

[molly77]

16. Sorry not enough coffee

None of the war criminals are in jail from the bush era is a big "tell" that we do not know who is in charge in DC.

[Enthusiast]

20. It is a tell.

From 2000 to 2008 we had fascism 4.0.

Wonder what this new version will bring us.

The really sad part? The PTB would actually get richer if they abandoned their plan of complete control and subjugation.

[tblue37]

45. Remember the movie _Superman III_, with Richie Pryor and

Robert Culp? Culp played an evil billionaire. He told the character played by Pryor, "It's not enough that I win. Everyone else must lose."

The way rich guys measure their own dicks is by their ability to chop off everyone else's.

[Enthusiast]

46. Well this mega-greed is a

mystery to me. My wife and I have made some observations of some very wealthy people. Truly it seems the more they get the more vigorous they strive to get more till it becomes a sort of obsession. Still, I can't understand it.

[indepat]

32. Maybe when all known peace activists have been rounded up, focus will shift to the Rummy-types

;)

[Enthusiast]

42. That will happen.

:fistbump:

[valerief]

31. Bwahahahaha!!!

:rofl:

[Jackpine Radical]

36. I thought it was a known unknown

But I don't really know.

[Xipe Totec]

43. Rummy was a drunken, lying bastard. That's known, and we know we know it.

That makes it a known known.

:evilgrin:

[Solly Mack]

4. K&R

[babylonsister]

5. Wow. So rummy lied? I'd love to see him on the stand. nt

[SpiralHawk]

6. There is no end to Republicon lies

I am sure Jeebus is waiting on the bench for Judgement Day so he can let the Republicon liars know how he really feels about their pervo torture kink.

[formercia]

7. Look on the bright side of Life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ&feature=related

[Enthusiast]

11. But Republicans don't really

believe in Jeebus. They only use Jeebus as a masquerade, as camouflage and to fool the foolish. It works to perfection.

[xchrom]

8. gasp! it can't be -- rummy lie? nt

[Vinca]

9. What a good excuse to put Rummy on the stand and under oath.

[laughingliberal]

22. +1000 nt

[Enthusiast]

12. K&R!

Torture is the greatest crime! Say it again.

[tanyev]

13. Rummy's going to be doing a book tour--good chance for some journalists to ask him about it.

If there are any journalists left, that is.

[olegramps]

24. Don't count on it.

They only published the White House bull shit memos for eight years. There isn't one so-called journalist that is worth the powder to blow them up.

[1American]

14. Rumsfeld, the slime

That scum should be in Abu Ghraib right now!----along with Bush, Cheney, and Rove.

[TexasObserver]

17. Thanks for doing a nice job posting important articles for discussion.

You're one of a number of poster who always seems to post threads worth recommending. You, Heidi, and maddezmom are three who come immediately to mind.

Is it a good source for discussion purposes?

Is the article worth reading and discussing?

Is the topic a good one?

Is the tenor of the article and OP appropriate?

These are things I look for in quality thread starting.

[JohnnyLib2]

19. +1

[truedelphi]

37. Kpete is truly a national treasure.

Her posts never miss the mark. She is one of the reasons I am on this board.

[Hissyspit]

40. Kpete?

:)

[txlibdem]

18. Simple answer: just take a few inches off of one of the pallets of cash that were being

airlifted out of the country. Over $8 Billion was flown into Iraq on shrink-wrapped pallets.

Here's one General saying he had no idea where it went, saying, "what does it matter?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1

And here's $3 Billion being flown out:
"More than $3 billion in cash has been openly flown out of Kabul International Airport in the past three years, a sum so large that U.S. investigators believe top Afghan officials and their associates are sending billions of diverted U.S. aid and logistics dollars and drug money to financial safe havens abroad."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704638504575318850772872776.html

[glinda]

23. then is laundered and comes back to support Republicans in elections and lobbying

[Billy Burnett]

26. Or to pay for various regional black ops.

Just like Iran/Contra/(cocaine).
They'll take it from where they can get it.
Then, coke/crack was cheap on America's streets.
Now, it's Afghan heroin.

[txlibdem]

35. I still haven't figured out the thievery behind attacking Grenada

Maybe part of Iran/Contra or a way to slip some funds under the table to Noriega?

[jberryhill]

21. URGENT MESSAGE

Hello,

This post may come as a surprise, because I am seeking your confidential assistance. I am the widow of former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Before leaving Washington, my husband left a large cash deposit at a bank in Iraq....

[90-percent]

25. Rummy

Has this TREACHEROUS CRETIN ever done anything HONORABLE at any time in his public service?

All governments lie, and one of the best liars in recent American History is Rumsfeld.

The fact this man is not in prison is all the proof I need that America is run by selfish sociopaths, and in no way, shape or form do "we the people" have any control over our rogue, war criminal government.

-90% jimmy

[OnyxCollie]

27. K&R. nt

[earcandle]

28. The truth about religion and war out of the mouths of two beautiful babes, and American no less!

Two Hot Chicks discuss war and god and secular humanism


When are we going to get it about churches, gun-running and religion's part in war.

[Enrique]

29. deadbeat torturers

they're the worst!

[sofa king]

30. How very Creed Bratton of him.

[felix_numinous]

33. Looks like Rumsfield, Rove, Cheney & Bush are all above the law.

The rest of us can't even smoke the wrong cigarette.

We need a War on Corruption---not a War on Drugs!!! :rant:

[Amonester]

34. All of cheney bush rumsferatu & co, who authorized torture should

not only be put on trial for their crimes against humanity, but all their assets and bank accounts should be seized to pay for this.

Why should the U.S. taxpayers have to foot the bill (on top of everything else) INSTEAD OF THESE CRIMINAL NEOCON A-HOLES???

[Diclotican]

38. Hissyspit

Hissyspit

Problery becouse it was never given ANY competation, that be a simple "sorry we harm you in any way" to paid out money for competation for what they experienced in Abu Girhab at all...

I would bet mutch, that the paper trail would have been there, if any payment was given to the prisoner of Abu Ghraib at all.. So I would say, this is one more evidence, that no payment is given to them who survived, and suffered in the hand of US armed forces at Abu Ghraib

And no one, higher up, that be in the military intelligence, in Pentagon or in the sivilian leadership have faced any form of consequenses for this either.. Just some elisted who was stupid enough to be pictured on piles of humans bodys.. Other, who know this was wrong, was smart enough to never been couth of tape for what they did. And hey are still luring out there, ready to do it again, next time maybe against US sitizien, not just against some arabic...

Diclotican

[DeSwiss]

39. This is what happens when you don't look back.....

...and when JUSTICE is not on the table.

- K&R

[Festivito]

41. More Repub borrowing that will show up on Dem budgets. /nt

[grahamhgreen]

44. Failure to prosecute for war crimes, makes us all complicit in war crimes. NT