U of Michigan student body president seeks restraining order against assistant state attorney genera

[Bozita]

Source: AnnArbor.com

University of Michigan student body president seeks restraining order against assistant state attorney general
By: David Jesse
UPDATED 3:55 PM
This story has been updated with a PDF of the PPO application and with details from a police report filed after Armstrong called the police on Shirvell.

University of Michigan student body President Christopher Armstrong is seeking a restraining order against an assistant state attorney general who has been publicly accusing Armstrong of pushing a radical homosexual agenda and showing up at places where Armstrong is, court records show.

Armstrong will go to court next week for a hearing on the personal protection order that would prohibit Andrew Shirvell from contacting him or coming near him.

Judge Nancy Francis denied Armstrong’s request to immediately issue the order, instead setting a hearing for 1:30 p.m. Oct. 4. Armstrong is asking that Shirvell be banned from appearing within Armstrong’s sight, from having e-mail or Facebook contact with Armstrong and to be prohibited from approaching “current or former university students or MSA reps.”

Shirvell, an assistant attorney general for the state of Michigan, has been writing a blog accusing Armstrong of pushing a radical homosexual agenda. In addition, he has shown up at various Michigan Student Assembly events to protest Armstrong, including holding signs attacking him that have a rainbow with a swastika drawn on it.

Read more: http://www.annarbor.com/news/university-of-michigan-student-body-president-seeks-restraining-order-against-assistant-state-attorn/

[msongs]

1. the AG is a dangerous stalker nt

[AlbertCat]

26. the AG is a dangerous stalker

Sounds like a lovers' quarrel, doesn't it?

The AG's IN LOVE!.... and was rebuffed. :wow:


Besides, anyone who spends this much time over gays... especially on a college campus.... has personal issues.

[supernova]

2. Yes!!

Despite the fact that they are worth cheesecloth, you still must have a legal paper trail that you tried to get the person to leave you alone.

[Bozita]

3. Shirvell is a graduate of Tom Monaghan's Ave Maria School of Law

Does that surprise anybody?

http://www.annarbor.com/vielmetti/andrew-shirvell-vs-chris-armstrong/



Courtesy Chris Dzombak
Michigan Student Assembly President Chris Armstrong (right, wearing red) is the target of Michigan Assistant Attorney General and Ave Maria School of Law graduate Andrew Shirvell at a protest at the Ann Arbor Civic Theatre's May 2010 showing of The Laramie Project. Shirvell's sign, reading "Order of Angell = KKK", refers to the once-secret University of Michigan student organization formerly known as Michigamua.

[defendandprotect]

9. And this is who they are attracting and moving into government--!!!

Christian stalkers!!

Christian fanatics!!

Which it is -- or all of it -- something very wrong with this guy ....

and how did he make it this far?

[Downwinder]

10. The comments are informative.

[ck4829]

4. Michigan, your govt has a creepy stalker in it

Just putting that out there.

[butterfly77]

5. We know..

and there's more where he came from...

[bigworld]

6. Here's the creepy Asst DA on CNN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwObjKZg9Jw&feature=player_embedded#!

whoa.

[Exilednight]

25. This is a guy who looks and sounds like a man who has not come to terms with ................

his own sexuality.

[DFW]

49. I got that exact same impression.

This is one uptight VERY unhappy person. Probably asks for the death penalty for jaywalking in a state with no death penalty.

[wordpix]

60. my gaydar siren is screaming, too ---I think Shirvell has a big crush

[barbtries]

43. wow.

anderson just called the guy a grown up. i don't think so. the dude is sick.

[defendandprotect]

7. Amazing ...!!! How did this creep Shirvell ever become Ass't. AG of Michigan????

Seems clear "Christian" Shirvell is attack on a religious basis ... !!!

[msanthrope]

13. That would be an interesting inquiry. n/t

[KT2000]

15. he worked on the AG's

political campaign. The AG is an evangelical Christian. I don't know if Shirvell was employed there before that but the AG Cox knows him from the campaign.

[defendandprotect]

18. IMO, anyone who thinks government should run according to the Bible

or according to any religious teachings really shouldn't be in government!

[KT2000]

27. Agree!! Cox ran for governor

and lost so then he ran for AG. Surprised that they elected him. Looks like a frightening setup for anyone who is different in that state.

[defendandprotect]

31. How is Michigan that religiously fanatic ...??? I thought Michigan was a rather liberal state ....

especially with so many unions having been there -- ???

Working class people???

IMO, these religious fanatics get pushed into this insane behavior because they're

losing this battle on every front -- sure hope I'm right!!


Kinda like pro-life murderers??!!!

On the Thom Hartman show the other day, a woman involved in politics was relating how

the "pro-life" movement had been recruiting former drug addicts -- people who were getting

assistance with the drug I can't think of at the moment -- begins with an "M" ...

and hiring them to protest at the clinics! Don't know if she meant that this is still going

on???

Believe Cheney when he tells you the right wing creates the reality and the rest of us have

to deal with it!!

Everything is bought and paid for -- or the product of political violence -- stolen elections!


:)

[Malikshah]

37. Go North of Detroit and Ann Arbor....there are pockets of lunacy up north

Better have the right last name, skin color, and beliefs in some parts of Michigan...More than one would think.
Go back and look at the history of Militia movements there as well.
Spend eight years in the bubble that is Ann Arbor; got to meet lots of folks and let me tell you, it's a different world outside of Treetown...

I miss the Arb!

[defendandprotect]

38. Thanks for the response ....

:)

[HillbillyBob]

56. Partner had a teaching gig in or near Midland I think it was

He could not get out fast enough, esp after seeing the nazi billboards.
From the sound of it the guy needs a prostate massage.

[krkaufman]

58. The West Coast is pretty rabidly Christian fundie, no?

Calvin College, etc, over in Grand Rapids and the surrounding area?

[blue_onyx]

33. No

He was already AG when he ran for Governor. The Dems didn't have strong candidates which helped Cox win. He's termed limited and will be out of office in 3 months. Hopefully Democrat David Leyton is our next AG.

[KT2000]

52. OK - thanks

got this from Toobin last night on CNN.

[blue_onyx]

34. FYI

The AG is actually Catholic.

[KT2000]

51. Really - thanks

got this from Toobin last night. Guess you can't believe everything you hear on the news!

[Stevenmarc]

48. I have a feeling that Shirvell was attracted to Cox way before the campaign

I don't think I've ever seen a more self loathing closet case

[chollybocker]

8. Good. And it's about time.

This Shirvell guy is seriously unhinged.

Which begs the questions:
Do lunatics become Republicans, or do Republicans become lunatics?
Do lunatics become Christians, or do Christians become lunatics?

Either way, why is he still on the payroll as a public servant?

[davidinalameda]

11. I have the feeling that this isn't going to end well

just a bad feeling

[dgibby]

20. I said the same thing yesterday on a different thread.

I think this guy is likely to escalate, especially if he gets fired or reprimanded. I'm glad Chris is getting a restraining order. Now the U of M needs to ban Pee Wee mini me from the Campus.

[jhrobbins]

63. don't say it, don't say it, don't say it, - I've been thinking the same thing.

[thelordofhell]

12. Is this bigot doing this on his own time?

If he's doing this on government time, he should be fired as AAG.

[Downwinder]

14. It does not matter. That is not a position a bigot should fill.

[bertman]

16. This shit just gets crazier and crazier. A homophobic, christian fanatic,

Assistant State Attorney General stalker.

Rec.

[queerart]

17. Call It Like It Is For Fucks Sake.....

The Guy Is A Fucking Christian Terrorist....



ter·ror·ist
   /ˈtɛrərɪst/ Show Spelled Show IPA
–noun
1.
a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2.
a person who terrorizes or frightens others.
3.
(formerly) a member of a political group in russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4.
an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.




..... a grown man haunting a young Gay guy everywhere he goes like some moldering cadaver.......



.....and this "IS NOT" the first time this creepy freak has had problems with "The Gay"......

http://www.michigandaily.com/content/gay-pride-sticker-sparks-controversy-pizzeria


... and his boss says his job "is safe"... keep that in mind fellow Queers when you are looking to spend those "Pink Dollars" on a vacation get away....

[defendandprotect]

21. Looks like Shirvell recognized that trying to continue homophia as a religious value ....

is a losing cause -- as he notes clearly ... this flag was about the acceptance

of homosexuality as a norm -- and not simply a request for tolerance.

It's really over -- and has long been over for organized patriarchal religion --

unless they get themselves a new army!

With W announcing a "Crusade" that may have already happened?

[johnnyplankton]

19. This story is about the strangest story all day...

But only because our country just seems to get weirder by the
second. If this was a science fiction movie about something in
the water that causes people to become ludicrously insane,
no-one would watch it because it seems so implausible. If we
let the corporations win this election and Republicans
continue to let the Tea Party mentality further erode their
soulless thinking...WE ARE FUCKED!!!!  

[defendandprotect]

22. It's simply the right wing fascists taking us backwards in time .....

that's all --

A time when they were "demonizing" homosexuality and succeeding!!

They're showing us how it was done thru the ages .... as it unravels!

Only on this side of the age, citizens are reacting with shock to homosexual suicides --

and with disgust at those tormenting them!!

[nolabear]

23. Is there such a thing as "creepdar"? Because mine is going crazy.

I saw this earlier, and was just boggled that he is Asst. AG. Good GOD; did that happen without anyone actually TALKING to him?

[Tansy_Gold]

24. Okay, look, folks. I'm straight, so I don't have gaydar, but the minute I saw a picture of

Shirvell, with that stiff neck and tightly pursed lips and holier-than-thou stare, I said to myself this guy is a majorly self-hating gay guy. There's a very fine line between love and hate, and something is telling me Shirvell is going back and forth over that line a hundred times a day.

He didn't just pick on gays -- he picked on Chris Armstrong. He's fixated on one guy.


Andrew Shirvell is a dangerous, dangerous person


in the never humble opinion of


Tansy Gold

[Indianademocrat91]

40. +100

Couldn't have said it better than myself. He is a complete monster who needs to go and bury himself in a ditch. The Michigan AG is also in total agreement with this guy, he just doesn't want to say it. It is disgusting :puke:

[krkaufman]

59. Yeah, his fixation reminds me of Dan White and Harvey Milk. n/t

[Blacksheep214]

28. How many more bridges?

I am so fed up with these assholes who preach that our government is intruding in the bedroom, only to see that it's the same people showing up in someones bedroom.

How many more suicides and lives will they ruin.

But Jesus loves you! :sarcasm:

[The Backlash Cometh]

29. I think the State Attorney Offices, Generals etc.

Need a major clean out.

[Celtic Merlin]

30. I've got a sign for ya.

Shirvell = Westboro Baptist Church

The guy is a stalker and obviously obsessed with Mr. Armstrong.

Creepy MFer

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist

[cecilfirefox]

32. This is somewhat frightening, especially if this order is issues-

He will then be in whats considered a danger zone. I think, if this order is levied against him(and I think it will be) that its very likely he will then be fired, and that he will then go on a real possible path towards unhinged violence.

As much as I dislike the attorney general this man works for I will say something- he is right in that he has little to no standing to fire him. Unless he engaged in these practices on the clock, which I suspect he has obviously been smart enough not to, he could not possibly hope to sack him without a reprisal of a lawsuit that would probably turn out in the stalkers favor.

Let's say some prayers for this kid, this could be real scary- as one poster said, this could end really badly. If I were him I'd seriously get a gun, a conceal carry license, and utilize it at all opportunities. Also, more locks on the house. And witches to cast protective magic. >_<

[DimplesinMI]

35. Since I was a former MI State employee and Union Representative....MIKE COX...DO YOUR DAMN JOB!!!

As a former state employee, I have seen MANY employees terminated over "Conduct Unbecoming of an Employee". For instance, if an employee engage in alcoholic beverage drinking off the job.

The next day, they come to work (not having 8 hours to burn the liquor out of their system) on mandatory overtime...(with Correctional Officers/State Police)...it can happen. Then the employee is selected for random drug & alcohol testing and they test positive.....terminated..."Conduct Unbecoming of a Employee" is one of the charges.

Is it beatable...sometimes, with union help. Either way it is 50/50 and the employee is out of a job, an minimum of 18 months or more.

The moral of the above story is that if the State of Michigan can terminate an employee for one to many drinks the night before...(while OFF work...mind you), it is amazing that stalker boy still has a job. Mike Cox needs to DO HIS JOB...and get this "employee" into a disciplinary hearing A.S.A.P.

Give this "person" the questionnaire (state employees know exactly what I mean), write the memorandum for the disciplinary hearing/investigation and place this idiot on STOP ORDER (he cannot serve in his position and would be on paid administrative leave) until AFTER the investigation/hearing.

Like I stated....as a former state employee and union representative, I saw MANY other former employees terminated for much less. If serious mental issues that is leading to harassment of another individual during non-working hours; does not fit into "Conduct Unbecoming", I do not know what does.

[southerncrone]

36. Good God! What happened to professionalism & dignity?

This leaves me speechless & disgusted. :puke:

[Malikshah]

39. This is scaring the bejesus out of me. Shirvell is coming across as the incarnation

of Dan White.
He sounded calm on Anderson Cooper and not unhinged or raving--just calm...like someone who is following a path toward destruction--his or others. It's quite scary.

I keep reading folks talking about how strange and unprofessional he is acting--too me, he's giving me the creeps in a major way. I wish people in power in MI would take some action before this gets further out of hand.

[Trocadero]

41. HOW THE F___ IS THAT Asst AG NOT YET FIRED?????????

[Trocadero]

42. Why didn't Armstrong file a complaint with the Michigan State Bar Association?

[Lindsey]

44. If you guys haven't seen the interview Anderson Cooper had

with this nut job it's a must. I think you could probably you tube it. Armstrong should definitely get a restraining order. The nut case said he hasn't been doing it on company time but that doesn't matter in regards to being stalked, harassed, and cyber bullied. What a friggin' sad state we are in.... the fact that gays and lesbians are bashed on a constant basis and it's accepted. :mad:

[SoapBox]

45. Excellant. And, like others have said, can't the Stalker be fired?

...time for some protests against sickos in public office.

[Trocadero]

46. here is how to file a complaint with the michigan bar association

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/9/30/906799/-Punish-Mich.-AG-who-torments-gay-student.-UPDATE

[Trocadero]

47. WE SHALL OVERCOME these F'n bigots

[mackerel]

50. I watched the CNN Anderson Cooper interview

with this homophobefreakazoid. He says he's doing this off state time but come on...I work with attorneys they spend at least 50 hours a week working. They have very little free time. This guy is spending his free time on this? He's addicted to the net as well as having a madass crush on Armstrong.

Next time he gets ready to blog he ought to put on some areo speedwagon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYoh_sV35eA

[a2liberal]

53. What is wrong with this assistant AG guy?

A bunch of student groups here at U of M are going to be running an ad soon in the campus newspaper supporting Armstrong.

I hesitate to wander into controversial territory in one of my first replies for fear of being called a troll, but I have to say... is it really right to be banning the crazy assistant AG guy from approaching any "current or former university students or MSA reps."? Getting a restraining order against him bugging Armstrong in person makes sense, but that particular part seems to be over-reaching.

To be clear, I'm not condoning Shirvell's behavior, but at the same time I'm always concerned about putting arbitrary restrictions on people you don't like, because some day the shoe will be on the other foot.

[Tx4obama]

54. Michigan AG Cox has suspended Asst AG Shirvell

Article: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4560374

[DimplesinMI]

55. Good....he FINALLY took action!

He is suspend pending a investigation and I bet my bottom dollar that the charge is "conduct unbecoming a state employee".

[wordpix]

61. should have done it long ago

[TexasObserver]

57. recommend

[progressoid]

62. "radical homosexual agenda"??

:wtf: What's that?