CNN Fires Rick Sanchez After Comments About Jews, Jon Stewart

[Tx4obama]

Source: Talking Points Memo

CNN spokesman Bridget Leininger confirmed to TPM that Rick Sanchez has been fired from CNN. "Rick Sanchez is no longer with the company. We thank Rick for his years of service and we wish him well."

Sanchez's departure comes after he said yesterday that "The Daily Show" host "Jon Stewart is a bigot" against "anybody who doesn't agree with his point of view, which is very much a white liberal establishment point of view."

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Leininger said CNN will broadcast CNN Newsroom from 3-5pm for the foreseeable future.

Read more: http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/rick-sanchez-fired-from-cnn-after-calling-jon-stewart-a-bigot.php

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TPM has changed the headline three times.
I've updated the headline on this post here at DU.

[Aramchek]

1. Aye, Dios Mio!!

[rocktivity]

74. And an "Oy-vey," too.

x(
rocktivity

[Spazito]

2. I would hope so!

I bet Sanchez is hoping Faux is hiring.

[cal04]

3. Rick Sanchez Fired From CNN

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/breaking-rick-sanchez-fired-from-cnn/

CNN released this statement today:

“Rick Sanchez is no longer with the company. We thank Rick for his years of service and we wish him well.“

They will broadcast CNN Newsroom from 3-5pm for the foreseeable future.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez-fired-from-c_n_747607.html

[tridim]

4. I bet Jon is LHFAO right now.

EPIC flameout! :rofl:

[iandhr]

25. I don't think Jon intented to get him fired

[BrklynLiberal]

36. Jon didn't DO ANYTHING at all. Sanchez did it all by himself.

[CLANG]

50. I don't think Jon will get much pleasure from this

Rick Sanchez is in need of a bit of psychotherapy.

I feel sorry for him because he just self destructed and he was not a neoconservative. He was pretty close to liberal as far as I could tell.

He was in pain, and probably a little manic, and he threw it all away. He may have been on cocaine. I hope he gets back on his feet. But if he goes to Fux, the bet's off!

[Rhiannon12866]

84. I agree with you.

I've been in The Daily Show audience and Jon Stewart was extremely nice to the folks who came to see him. It'll be interesting to see how he handles it, since it would be tough for him to get away without mentioning it... :shrug:

I've liked Rick Sanchez, after getting over his tazer incident, LOL, because he seemed pretty outspoken. But then I saw his show when Ann Coulter was on and he lost a lot of points with me... x(

[CLANG]

97. I missed that show - I guess its for the best now...

[Rhiannon12866]

104. If you mean the show with Ann Coulter, I couldn't sit through it...

You can imagine what she was like and he was still nice to her... x(

[CLANG]

244. Yeah that's what I meant.

But I'm not surprised that he treated her well, since they've been "angry sex" partners.

[Rhiannon12866]

246. I thought that he was married. He's had his young daughter on and

Always talks about his wife and his mother. I guess I'm being naive, but I can't imagine Ann Coulter appealing to either gender... x(

[CLANG]

250. Yeah, my head's pretty much blown and I also blew chow!

[Ken Burch]

298. I'll have a Mindbleachtini...and make it a double!

:puke:

[marasinghe]

101. agreed. Jon would not be happy about this clown's fate.

Jon's not some bully like billy liar - who's gotta run to daddy to cut off the mike, when he can't handle a heckler.
Stewart can roll with a low blow & counter-punch clean & fast enough, a sucker wouldn't know he was out until he heard birdsong in his daydreams. rick sanchez is a pathetic bozo who shoved his foot in his mouth once too often; they should give him a gig on voice of america's cuban broadcasts, instead of canning his whiny little ass. as always, like the rest of the cowardly msm, CNN is gunning for some two-bit idiot they can kick with impunity, instead of bringing out the dead of iraq & afghanistan.

[bobburgster]

240. I agree with you on all but.......

one thing. I can't help think that Stewart would get a little throat chuckle over the whole thing.

[No Elephants]

149. Dude, it wasn't about neocon v. liberal. He was an anti Semite broadcaster.

No one who hates on the basis of the way anyone is born should be broadcasting on public airwaves, whether it's race, religion, national origin, gender, disability or orientation, especially on a news network that purports to be unbiased. (I realize orientation is more controversial, but we are not dealing with that now.)

[Leopolds Ghost]

210. What, just because he pointed out that Jon Stewart is not a minority broadcaster?

I call bullshit.

Look one post above for someone saying he should be confined to cuban broadcasting. Sounds like someone proving Sanchez's paranoia correct.

[boppers]

300. Massive global conspiracies to execute you...

Over 1,000 years of Pogroms...
Ongoing Blood Libel...
Lynchings without trial....

So, what makes for a minority in your eyes, then?

[CLANG]

245. That may be true, but I never saw the anti-semitism until this blowup.

Then again I don't watch CNN much nowadays.

[howaboutme]

261. Where did the media get the idea that a rant equals bigotry?

What person on this planet hasn't made many statements in anger that they regretted and didn't really mean? A statement in anger does not represent how a person lives or treats others. It represents a weak moment often when other factors are in play.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

198. correct.

Jon has it in for blowhards like Fucker Carlson, because they earn it. If anything horrific happened to him, I don't see jon celebrating.

The real problem here is that Jon is smarter than Rickie, knows more about current affairs, politics, and to boot, he is more educational at the same time as he is hillarious. When we laugh at Rick, we use the active "AT" compared to "WITH" that applies to Jon.

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[MellowDem]

6. Ricky always seemed a little buffoonish...

I guess all those repeated taser videos that Stewart would make fun of eventually got to him. I must say, Stewart and Colbert are getting more and more under the mainstream media's skin, more than I ever remember, and I am loving it. Ricky is an idiot, but really, CNN is even worse for hiring someone like that and for pushing the shit they call "news".

[underpants]

12. Stewart has mostly ragged on him but he has also given him credit from time to time

Sanchez is on...well WAS ON... in the afternoon when the Daily Show is in the crunch of show prep so he is probably their regular view. The blonde on Fox (forgot her name) is also repeatedly used on the Daily Show because they probably have both on at the same time.

This seems a to me to be a petty reason to fire Sanchez.

[still_one]

15. Not a petty reason at all. The problem is that beck and limbaugh make racist and bigoted statements

and nothing happens to them

[howaboutme]

39. But their racism is about blacks and Latinos.

not "Jon" brother of the COO of the NYSE.

[No Elephants]

151. No idea what your post means, but he did not get fired for criticizing Stewart, but for anti-

Semitism.

"They are not some minority. Everyone who runs CNN is like Jon Stewart." (paraphrase) is a comment about Jews, not a criticism of Jon Stewart as an individual human being.

Now, what does brother of the NYSE mean?

[No Elephants]

164. Too late to edit, but forget my question. I read the NYSE part of your post too fast.

I now understand what you wrote.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

180. It Means He Was A Jew

Maybe he typed in stormfront and this site came up by mistake.

[No Elephants]

192. I thought that at first. Then I re-read and decided the poster was being literal.

(For a cynic, I'm very gullible.)

After seeing your post, I googled: A man named Liebowitz is COO of NYSE. BUT then I saw a post stating Jon Stewart had changed his name from Lieberwitz {sic}. So, I googled again. Jon Stewart does indeed have the same mom and dad as the man named Liebowitz who is COO of NYSE. http://blogs.reuters.com/summits/2010/03/29/jon-stewarts-brother-says-mom-pretty-happy-with-both/

As for the rest of whataboutme's post, my lips are sealed.

(Edited for typo.)

[Leopolds Ghost]

214. Jon Stewart is brother of the COO of the NYSE? And people think he's liberal?

[boppers]

301. Is George Soros a conservative?

Do you have a financial litmus test? Maybe a professional litmus test?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/06/AR2005080600848.html

[craigmatic]

48. They're employed by people who don't care about appealing to minorities.

CNN is trying to be for everybody without bias. That's why Sanchez had to go.

[davidinalameda]

88. exactly

and their audience doesn't care about their bigotry

[Leopolds Ghost]

215. That's fair. They got rid of whasisname too, the morning talk show guy. Imus.

[whathehell]

268. Yes.

..although it took a lot longer and Imus, I think most will concede, was more bigoted and direct about that bigotry.

[No Elephants]

152. +1

[DemocratSinceBirth]

179. Limbaugh Lost His Gig On ESPN For His Bigoted Comments

If Sanchez can get 20,000,000 folks to listen to rail about Jews he will get a show somewhere.

[heliarc]

28. You should have seen him spout his nonsense

On Miami local news throughout the 80s. This guy is a buffoon and a Yellow journalist.

[NYMdaveNYI]

45. yes, I could not have put it better myself. nt

[No Elephants]

153. Well, the taser videos and Jon's Judaism got to him. Unless Jews at CNN and elsewhere in media

were also running the taser video, the taser video alone was not responsible for Sanchez's anti-Semitism or for his firing. Please see Replies 149 and 151.

[seafoamrider]

248. Rick Sanchez

Sanchez never seemed too bright. I always wondered how he got the job because he really did sound dumb sometimes.

[seafoamrider]

249. Well, duh! lol

I'm new and was so stymied by what to put in subject space I forgot to say hello. Glad I registered because I'm starting to worry about the election and needed to be with a good crowd. Hi all!

[Botany]

7. memo to self ....

Don't mess w/ Jon Stewart :rofl:

or the Jews that run the World either

[WolverineDG]

20. Why is this such a surprise?

After all, it was Jon Stewart who took down Crossfire.

How soon they forget. :)

dg

[missheidi]

37. Oh, I forgot about it!

The "dick with a bowtie" comment to Tucker Carlson. Now I remember...I give Sanchez...until Christmas before he's on Faux News. Or at least a guest on Beck's show.

[defendandprotect]

69. Really? Good to hear ...

That show was the pits for 20 years or more --

kept on the air by GE ... who has long sponsored and pushed Pat Buchanan!!

[No Elephants]

155. Yes--and now MSNBC sponsors and pushes Buchanan, yet many believe

MSNBC is a Democratic network, as opposed to one that replaced Dennis Miller with Olberman, its first Democratic host, as Bush's approval ratings slid down. MSNBC and its sisters, NBC and CNBC--all run by Republicons.

[defendandprotect]

236. Agree .... but I've been asking frequently about the oddity ....

of MSNBC a few years ago beginning to put on more liberal shows like Olbermann

and Maddow -- Schultz later -- and I think some say Ratigan is a liberal show?

Never do catch that one.

GE was more right wing than John Birch Society! And was guilty of defrauding

government -- but never barred from future contracts.

Only thing I could figure is that they foresaw the shift to Dems coming and were

worried about their defense "bread" and who was going to be "buttering it" ????

Now here we are with Comcast!!

Imagine that is a threat to all of these programs --

Phil Donahue has given us much insight as to how even a liberal show can be greatly

controlled -- of course, they finally tosed him -- their #1 show -- anyway because

they couldn't control him sufficiently.

The truth is that when liberal/progressive ideas can be heard at all, any right wing

concepts are finished! So, even a bit of truth to the right wing, is like being

just a little pregnant!

Comcast, btw, makes $500 million a year from internet porn!!

:)

[jhrobbins]

31. memo to self...

convert to Judaism........oh, wait a minute, I don't have to - already a MOT.

[boppers]

302. A Bolian hairdresser?

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mot

:evilgrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot

[pinto]

8. Over the line, and I'm guessing he was questionable as a rep of CNN for a while.

Of late, his segments have been as much about Rick Sanchez as they have been about news stories being covered.

[BrklynLiberal]

9. Monday's Daily Show should be interesting..........

[still_one]

17. Actually, nothing might be said. I am not too sure how mentally stable Sanchez is /nt

[BrklynLiberal]

35. You are right Sometimes it shows a great command of the English language to say nothing at all.

:thumbsup:

[Bombero1956]

10. I called it ealier today

I bet he ends up at Faux Noos.

[underpants]

14. Miami

he will probably go to one of the major stations in Miami. That would be my guess either that or NYC maybe LA.

[louis-t]

60. Miami? Really? NYC?

I don't know if anti-Jewish rants would endear him to either area. :hi:

[molly77]

100. Didn't work out so well for Mel Gibson

[louis-t]

235. Owwwww, you are so bad,

:wow:

[Bucky]

208. Maybe he can get a job at the Daily Show

[HillWilliam]

86. He came FROM Miami

We used to watch WSVN (the station Sanchez was on) just to see which host was going to arrive with the party favors already IN them, not just ON them.

It must have been an awesome place to work :rofl:

[Barbara2423]

134. Last time I viewed Sanchez on CNN I thought he was high.

[No Elephants]

159. Very possible. Folks who are manic or in a manic phase of manic depression often seem high too even

w/o drugs.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

177. He Was A Clown Then Too

~

[HillWilliam]

259. Remember "Deco Drive"?

Came on after the "news"? The only reason to watch that was to see who was going to host while toasted. That show didn't last much longer than after we left Florida, a little into 2000. We were shocked to hear Sanchez got picked up by CNN. We were even more shocked to hear Bill Kamal got picked up by the police. That station musta been one Peyton Place.

[Malikshah]

113. FYI--- He was on the local Fox afiliate down here in South Florida

When he left to do a "local talk show" that failed, word is that his old colleagues threatened to walk if he came back. So nope, I don't think he'll be able to do well down here.
He's burned his bridges. And the last one was a major one (CNN). Local stations throughout the nation will look twice I suspect.

[CoffeeCat]

98. but Sanchez is a liberal, isn't he????

I always thought he sounded very Progressive.

Am I wrong?

His comments were neither liberal or conservative---they were STUPID and RECKLESS. I agree with the
previous poster who said that he sounded coked up. He really did. He was totally on a roll saying
so many bizarre things that no sober person would ever say--especially a CNN anchor.

Quite weird.

[ingac70]

121. I seriously doubt it....

with his "librul Joooos run the media" rant.

[ooglymoogly]

265. He is a Liberal nt

[leftynyc]

280. Liberals didn't vote for bush twice

sanchez did. He's no liberal.

[ooglymoogly]

288. You are right....I don't watch CNN and only saw a few

specials with Sanchez in which he took the liberal position. After all the brouhaha, seeing the many clips, I come to the realization that I was wrong about Sanchez.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

181. I Think He Wanted to Fit In At CNN But It's Hard To Contain Your True Self

~

[Taverner]

233. Center-Left and partially why its shocking to me

[No Elephants]

162. Not sure. He may be too liberal for Fox. And Fox may not want to be known as a safe haven

for those fired by other stations for bigotry. Yes, Fox is bigoted but that's a different issue. Finally, whether he is nuts or drugging or whatever, he's a loose cannon.

Does the KKK have another station?

[Xipe Totec]

11. Adios, harbano Sanchez!

:rofl:

[Sky Masterson]

16. I guess he made "The List you don't want to be on"

He went all Helen..

[butterfly77]

99. Exactly...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[No Elephants]

178. Please see Reply 169

[Freddie Stubbs]

312. Please see reply 281

[RZM]

130. I don't know if that's a great comparison

Sanchez made comments insinuating that Jews are powerful in the media. Well, there's some truth to that, mainly because many Jews are capable and intelligent people and throughout history they've risen to the top in many situations and circumstances, even in the face of awful prejudice against them.

Helen Thomas, however, said that Israeli Jews should go back to Central Europe, places where Jews were, you know, physically exterminated solely for being Jewish. Sanchez's comments were boneheaded, but Thomas' were inexcusable, IMO. I'm not saying that you think it's the same thing, but it's not exactly the same 'list' their on either, at least not in my mind. Of course, I don't hire and fire prominent media figures, so I can't speak to the decisions that landed them where they are now.

[No Elephants]

154. Not what Sanchez said. You've made it seem less obnoxious. Also, positiive stereotypes are still

stereotypes.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

176. Trafficking In Stereotypes Is Always Dangerous As You Said Even Positive Ones

Because as soon as you say a group has a surplus in one are you are left to entertain the notion they have a defecit in another one.

I don't think Rick is a David Duke but I do think he is a Pat Buchanan.

[whathehell]

295. Historic reasons as to why Jews may be "overrepresented" in the media and the professions, generally

The main reason I heard for the large Jewish presence in the media and the professions generally, related to their situation in Europe from the nineteenth century back and was told to me years ago by a Jewish friend.

During most of European history, middle ages on to the 20th at least, most people earned their living OFF THE LAND. Owning land was incredibly important then. Because of the historic prejudice against them, Jews were often NOT permitted to own land. In addition, there were frequent "pogroms" such as in Russia, where the government would simply kick them out of the country.

What could someone in such a situation do?...Not much hope of being a farmer and one would certainly profit from doing something they could take with them...The answer?...A profession. A profession did not necessitate land ownership and can "travel", so to speak.

That, as much as anything, it seems, could help explain the situation.

[No Elephants]

169. Disagree. Believing Palestinians should not have been displaced is not

necessarily an anti-Semitic view, esp. for an American of Arab descent who is over 90. there is no evidence she hates or resents Jews simply for being born Jews, as Rick's comments evidence.

She made a comment about believing Israelis should leave Israel/Palestine to Palestinians. When the interviewer took her literally and asked her where they should go, she looked taken aback, as if she had not thought of that before, and said, "Wherever they came from...Germany, Poland."

Had the reporter asked, "What if they prefer to live in Australia?" Or Egypt?" I fully believe Helen would have said, "Fine with me. That's between them and Australia or Egypt. All I really care about is Palestinians' controlling their homeland."

As far as all the "extermination" remarks from the echo chamber, unless Helen suggested returning Israelis to Germany and Poland in a time machine set to 1939, those remarks were, in my opinion, both low, cheap shots and evidence of anti-German sentiments. No one in Germany today is invading Poland or rounding up Jews and no "German gene" suggests Germany is likelier than any other nation to do those things.

Finally, two facts with which Thomas had eyewitness familiarity: Anti-Semitism has never been limited to Germany. Indeed, during WWII, nation after nation refused fleeing Jews entry, including the U.S. Helen lived through that when it was headline news over and over. Second, Lebanon cannot refuse citizenship to anyone whose {patrilineal} ancestry is originally Lebanese. I know a refugee who gained Lebanese citizenship by her surname, even though all members of the native family had emigrated from Lebanon over a century ago--and she claimed (falsely, as far as she knows) relation to that family.

And, since Helen's issue about Israel is based on homeland rights, it would follow that she would suggest return to a homeland, which could not, in her mind, refuse them, as she had witnessed other nations refuse them.

Finally, as Bill O'Reilly and Sanchez and so many others have proven, I very much doubt you can be a high profile bigoted newsperson in America for 70 years, more or less, side by side with Jews daily, and never leave a hint of your bigotry until you hit age 89+.

ETA: I know some would say that a belief that Palestinians should control Israel/Palestine is, in itself anti-Semitic. Obviously, I disagree, especially when we are speaking of a 90 year old first generation Lebanese American. I think she was speaking about her views of ownership of real estate and rulership of a nation and how both transferred, not hating Jews for having been born Jewish, as Sanchez did. There is no evidence she hates Israelis, let alone all Jews.

Also, I have at least half a dozen serious criticisms of her comment (none of which imputes bigotry to her. I would have fired her, too. I just would have allowed her more dignity, by allowing her more time, which would have made her retirement announcement less laughable. I don't expect anything other than a hatchet job from Cons, but, IMO, what liberals did to Helen was low.

[Freddie Stubbs]

281. You say that her views are not racist, especially because of her age and background

Imagine if we held a 90 year old white from the South man to the same standard. He's not a racist, he's just an old white guy who grew up in the South.

[Leopolds Ghost]

212. Helen Thomas is persona non grata on DU. We don't talk about her no more

:evilgrin:

[zonkers]

18. Rick Sanchez made other weird remarks the same day. About Tony Curtis's & Jon Stewart's real names

being Bernie Schwartz and John Lieberwitz respectively. (on edit) It was during a piece on Curtis. Rick seemed to relish exposing their "jewishness". I mean, there was no relevant reason to mention Stewart during the Curtis story, except to point out "Hey, here's another jew that changed his name, too." I found it pretty despicable. Glad to hear he got dumped.

[No Elephants]

165. So sad Rick is too dense to realize that most show biz personalities

changed their names at the request of studios and agents, even WASPs. For example, Norma Jean's momma was not Mrs. Monroe. Drew's granddady was born John Blyth, not John Barrymore. Bob Hope was baptized Leslie Hope.

And before movies, there were "stage names" and pen names," all with the goal of appearing more acceptable and/or glamorous to the greatest majority of the public, including, yes, even anti-Semites, like you, Rick.

[boppers]

303. Ricardo León Sánchez de Reinaldo complained about others in media changing their names?

Did he whine about Gerald Michael Rivera, too?

I'm pretty sure I can guess the answer....

[PfcHammer]

19. AMF. Little Ricky will prolly close down some bars tonight and strike

an innocent pedestrian or 3 rendering them cripple for life like he did once already. :eyes:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. And Walk

You forgot that part.

[KinMd]

21. Fox News next star?

....or does Geraldo fill the Hispanic quota

[RedCloud]

204. good point, but Fox might need that extra "migra"!

[stlsaxman]

22. Looks like we'll be seeing Rick on FOX now. n/t

[Why Syzygy]

23. CNN sucks. nt

[Jim Sagle]

27. But they suck a little less than before today

[No Elephants]

166. +1

[Turborama]

24. Hang on a sec, Rick Sanchez got instantly fired for calling Jon Stewart a bigot?

How long did Lou "The Real Bigot" Dobbs stay on for before he decided to leave?

[BrklynLiberal]

38. Perhaps that was just the final straw in a entire bale of straws....

and there were remarks about ALL JEWS and their owning and running all the media.

Sanchez made no mention however, of how many of the neocons are/were Jewish.

[NeoConsSuck]

73. And CNN

is a cesspool of NeoCons. Much more than Fox.

Corporate NeoCon Network.

[ensho]

194. kick

nt

[1955doubledie]

76. Aye...as mentioned above,

it seems there's been a string of antisemitic remarks of late.

[Turborama]

106. I've never seen Bill Kristol or Charles Krauthammer on CNN

They're always on Faux, though.

[Dappleganger]

200. That's probably what happened.

We're only seeing the tip of the iceberg wrt his issues at CNN.

[RZM]

125. From what I know, that's not entirely clear

CNN was under pressure from Hispanic advocacy groups to dump him. I don't know if they bowed to that or not, maybe someone else here has more info.

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/lou-dobbs-to-depart-cnn/

[No Elephants]

172. Lord, no. He got fired for anti-Semitic remarks. Please see Reply ##s 149 and 151.

[Leopolds Ghost]

211. What was Anti-Semitic about his remarks? I only saw one sentence of his quote, but...

While it may have been politically incorrect, for sure...

He said that he was a minority broadcaster and that Jon Stewart (who I would hardly call "liberal" -- authoritarian statist would be a better term for the media line) was hardly a minority and the culture in broadcasting is very much geared to singling out and tokening anyone who isn't from a select few ethnicities.

[boppers]

304. So, you're opining on a topic, without being familiar with the material involved?

Here's a transcript.

http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/transcript-cnns-rick-sanchez-meltdown-sirius-radio-21386

If you can find/hear the audio, you'll also get more of the tone.

[Taverner]

26. I'm glad he's been fired, but no slamming the hispanics for this

There's no trend - let's keep it that way

[Tom_Foolery]

29. Maybe they will eventually bring David Shuster on board. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

30. Maybe he can start up a lemonaid stand with Helen Thomas

;)

[slackmaster]

33. ROFL!

:rofl:

[No Elephants]

182. Please see Reply 169.

[Freddie Stubbs]

316. Please see reply 281

[No Elephants]

173. Please see Reply 169.

Maybe all that lemonade has soured you. ;-)

[obxhead]

205. You should make post 169 an OP.

You certainly feel strongly enough about it to do so by spamming over and over in this thread about it.

[Freddie Stubbs]

282. Please see reply 281

[ensho]

195. what a mean thing to say about Helen

nt

[Freddie Stubbs]

209. Racists like her get what they deserve

[Leopolds Ghost]

213. Well, naturally, Helen Thimas is anti-semitic and deserved to get fired.

She said a bad thing about Israel.

We established that rule when the neocons are/were in charge. Who needs communism when you can accuse your populist opponents of anti-semitism instead?

[whathehell]

294. Agreed...It sucks. n/t

[whathehell]

247. How sweet...

:eyes: not.

[Dappleganger]

32. I don't know what to think.

They've had people say a lot worse things on CNN and get by with it. Maybe Rick just got an attitude with a higher up and pissed them off in addition to what was said. I guess it'll come out later.

[No Elephants]

175. People on CNN have said Jews run CNN and all media--they're not some minority group--before and

gotten away with it? This is just some personal beef some exec has with an uppity Sanchez?

How very disappointing.

[howaboutme]

34. Some people hold all the cards and you don't ever want to cross them

Those are the facts and Sanchez should have known better. I've never been a big fan of Sanchez because I view him as more racist than neutral just like La Raza and any other race based organization. You must be ethnically neutral instead of ethnocentric, otherwise you qualify as racist.

That's what the blacks thought about whites in the 60s. If you were a black executive in the 60s you would never ever say that whites controlled the corporation even if they did.

Wolf Blitzer as an ex-AIPACer must have an opinion on all of this. I saw him and Rick the other day involved on CNN in an ad hoc discussion about a bus crash in DC.

Our US government in its infinite wisdom once kept score about gender and ethnicity in corporations mainly to ensure that racism and representation was appropriate to demographics. Do you think such an effort would be worthwhile in government and the media to ensure balance? Representation is about power. If it is balanced then power is balanced. If it is unbalanced then someone is getting royally screwed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. They Already Tried Quotas To Limit Jews In The Professions

It was called the Nuremberg Laws

The percentage of Jews in medicine and science is much greater than their percentage of the general population. Should there be quotas in those areas as well?

[Admiral Loinpresser]

63. Quotas were also used in the USA and other places. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. To Our Eternal Shame

~

[RZM]

127. Good point

As well as in Poland, Romania, and many other Central European countries in the interwar years

[howaboutme]

70. "They" were Germans not Americans

WTF do the Nuremburg laws have to do with Americans? What Hitler and his Nazis did was their own undoing and had nothing to do with us in the USA. As a reminder we Americans were the good guys and actually expended our lives and treasure in an effort to correct the misdeeds and atrocities of the Germans and others.

I'm a huge believer in providing and working towards opportunities for all, and minimizing the cronyism and reasons where a few have more opportunities than the many.

So since you brought it up, perhaps you could tell me why as you say, that the Jewish excel in science and medicine? Is it about opportunity or ability? You tell me.

I'm for broadly examining and fully publicizing representation of ethnic/religious groups in media, government, business, professions, Wall Street and then debating and analyzing the reasons why some excel.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. I'll Play

"So since you brought it up, perhaps you could tell me why as you say, that the Jewish excel in science and medicine? Is it about opportunity or ability? You tell me."

I think it's the emphasis they put on education. I fall on the "nurture" side of the "nurture versus nature" argument. Why do I feel you fall on the other side?




"I'm for broadly examining and fully publicizing representation of ethnic/religious groups in media, government, business, professions, Wall Street and then debating and analyzing the reasons why some excel"

Does that mean employers should be able to as k prospective employees their religious affiliation?

[howaboutme]

78. Equal opportunity for all should be our goal.

Did Rick Sanchez think he was being screwed out of a promotion or raise at CNN because of his Hispanic ethnicity? Could be, and he was angry and lashing out. That's what it seems like. This didn't come out of the blue. He appeared to be holding resentment.

Equal opportunity whether it be government or professions or media means the same thing we've done since affirmative action, and since EEO first became embedded into our government policy in the 60s. As a nation we must examine and track the relationship between success, ethnicity and heritage. If these factors are a basis for success we need to understand what's behind it and we need to do whatever is necessary to help provide a level playing field and equal opportunity to all. I'm not a big believer in quotas but I am a big believer in equal opportunity.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

83. If Rick Sanchez Was Fired Because Of His Ethnicity I Will Be The First Person To Boycott CNN

As for a promotion I'm not a media critic but I didn't think he was anything special; no better or worse than his peers.

[howaboutme]

91. Did I say that?

I thought I stated Sanchez may have believed he was screwed out of a promotion or raise because of his ethnicity or office politics. Nothing said about being fired because of being Hispanic.

Office politics is usually about relatively trivial things as viewed from the outside. He may have thought he lost out on a corner office or lost an assignment to someone else. It's about ego. He got pissed and said some things that were a result of built up resentment and he got himself fired. It happens every day in the corporate world and CNN is not immune from office politics. It usually occurs after built up resentment and something that festers, and eventually it builds to where the mouth goes into gear before the brain.

[howaboutme]

203. EXACTLY what I said - Sanchez thought he was screwed out of a promotion by Parker-Spitzer

Sanchez was obviously a fool for spouting out and putting his mouth in gear before his brain, but this was about resentment not bigotry. Bigotry is never about what someone says in a fit of resentment or anger, it is about how they normally act and treat others.

According to Wikipedia: In the day following his remarks,<11> CNN announced that Sanchez was no longer employed with the company.<9> <b>He is alleged to have believed that his previous re-shuffle from CNN's 8:00pm time-slot, which he temporarily anchored, and replacement by the new CNN show Parker Spitzer, was discriminatory based on his ethnicity, on the part of CNN's leadership.</b> His statements during the radio show were made during a discussion concerning the extent to which Jews in the United States faced overtly or covertly discriminatory attitudes, compared to Latinos. Sanchez also vented his negative feelings about Jon Stewart's portrayal of him in Stewart's news-oriented show on Comedy Central, The Daily Show.<12>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Sanchez

[Ghost Dog]

156. Actually, "Hispanic" is a cultural, not a racial term

(except, it seems, in the USA).

If I've understood the information-flow from DU, this middle-aged 'Cuban-American' would ethnically-speaking be of pure Spanish-European extraction (whatever 'pure-Spanish' may mean, in the Europa-Mediterranean context <g> ), or what I believe is termed 'white Caucasian' in the US, am I right?

So this makes these things appear even more weird, to an outsider's eye.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

183. As You Know Race Is A Social Construct

In the instant case I doubt Rick Sanchez has been discriminated against.

[Crunchy Frog]

82. Yeah, Einstein got a bunch of unfair breaks because he was Jewish.

:eyes:

[1955doubledie]

105. Read all about it...

All you out there should read his biography, it's interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Early_life_and_education

He became an American citizen in 1940. Not long after settling into his career at Princeton, he expressed his appreciation of the "meritocracy" in American culture when compared to Europe. According to Isaacson, he recognized the "right of individuals to say and think what they pleased", without social barriers, and as result, the individual was "encouraged" to be more creative, a trait he valued from his own early education. Einstein writes:

What makes the new arrival devoted to this country is the democratic trait among the people. No one humbles himself before another person or class. . . American youth has the good fortune not to have its outlook troubled by outworn traditions.<41>:432

[COLGATE4]

185. Just thinly disguised anti semitism. There were quotas rigidly applied until

at least the 1960's (possibly later) to limit the number of Jews in Medicine, Dentistry and Law. Throughout the 1950's Florida had towns that proudly proclaimed on their public beaches "No Dogs or Jews allowed". In the late 1950's, Jews could not register at some of Miami's finer hotels. BTW, that's a beauty of a Cavuto you have there: "the Jewish excel in science and medicine? Is it about opportunity or ability?" (It's Jews, not Jewish).

[proteus_lives]

144. Wow. Why don't you just come out and say it?

:puke:

[Codeine]

167. This is one of the most obviously anti-Semitic posts I've ever seen DU not delete.

:wtf:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

174. "Some people hold all the cards and you don't ever want to cross them."

~

[COLGATE4]

186. Absolutely. See my reply.

[Crunchy Frog]

242. Agreed.

I alerted on it, but nothing has been done.

[Orrex]

40. With Sanchez gone, who will read Tweets on-air for hours at a time?

[AlinPA]

41. Sanchez is a great candidate for Fox "news". His meltdown stuff will be well

received by their leaders, most other Fox announcers and their drooling audience.

[craigmatic]

49. And they'll be able to use him as a talking head we all know there's barely any minorities at faux

with their own shows.

[JerseygirlCT]

42. Good riddance.

More work to be done, however. I nominate John King.

[Tx4obama]

43. Here's a link to CNN's article on the issue

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/01/cnn.sanchez/index.html?hpt=T2

[craigmatic]

44. I can't say I'll miss him. The guy was too conservative.

[krabigirl]

313. He was pretty socially liberal though, no?

[bluestateguy]

46. I'm sure Fox is already reviewing his resume

nt

[Bitwit1234]

75. Especially after he thinks there shouldn't be a white LIBERAL

point of view. Every body knows the CONServative view is the only one you should have.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Before I Read His Remarks I Though He Purposely Got Himself Fired So He Could Be A Martyr

And go to FOX but his anti=semetic remarks make him radioactive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. .

.

[tomm2thumbs]

52. reap, meet sow

sometimes stupidity has a price - wish it were the case at FoxNews, but maybe it'll spread

[Jefferson23]

54. I can't tell from this OP what the hell Sanchez is referring to:

Sanchez's departure comes after he said yesterday that "The Daily Show" host "Jon Stewart is a bigot" against "anybody who doesn't agree with his point of view, which is very much a white liberal establishment point of view."

"They minimize you, and treat you like you don't matter," Sanchez said of Stewart's show, also adding: "I am a complex human being. I am not some moron."

Sanchez also said of Stewart being Jewish:

I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority? Yeah. (end)

I'm guessing the entire piece is not reproduced here.

Stewart claims to be an oppressed minority, since when?

Sanchez sounds bigoted, defensive and plain stupid.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

56. Sanchez Always Struck Me As A Right Winger

I think he muted his conservatism becaus he's on CNN. However the "Jews control the world" sentiment comes right out of leftfield or righfield.

[Coexist]

85. sounds like Sanchez

got his feelings hurt by Jon's ribbing at his occasional buffoonish-ness and took it like a petulant child.

Why should a grown man with a good career care so much that a comedian made fun of him?

[Jefferson23]

189. Could be that Sanchez had a meltdown and out poured his bigotry, but

I wonder now if CNN had issues they had already expressed to Sanchez. It makes no sense for him to attack CNN unless he already
new his days were numbered.

Either way, another bigot is gone from the MSM, not a bad thing at all imo. He won't be missed.

[ocd liberal]

55. WOW!!!

I seriously did not see that coming!

[Mr. Sparkle]

57. I just heard the interview, CNN should fire themselves.

There is a thing going on between Stewart, Colbert and Sanchez, for awhile. It is mostly one way traffic from Jon and Colbert. And for CNN to fire Sanchez for that, is outrageous.

[K8-EEE]

61. Yeah but he dissed CNN and the 'Jews who run it"

Weird thing to say!

[NotThisTime]

138. Exactly, you can't talk about your employer like that and NOT expect to be fired...

He was too conservative for my tastes, so I won't miss him, he'll be well received by Faux...

[Leopolds Ghost]

216. NOT how he put it. I think he felt (paranoia?) Stewart was singling him out as "dumb hispanic."

And the interviewer said "but Stewart's a minority too" or some similarly stupid statement, right?

Just look at the posts on this thread. Would people naturally jump to the conclusions if it wasn't
a hispanic talk show host? Well, yeah, it's DU so they would.

He said there are lots of Jews in broadcasting and very few Hispanics. I don't think he went beyond that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. Maybe It Was His Juluis Streicher Like Attack On Jewish People

"I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority? Yeah."

[Turborama]

67. Has anyone recently "implied somehow" that American Jews are an "oppressed minority"?

He makes it sound like it's a common complaint and I'm curious as to whether it actually is or not.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. No

It's the whole "Jews contol the world, errrr, media" canard that did him in.

[Ghost Dog]

158. I think that would have been intended as a 'rhetorical negative',

meaning the opposite. The subtext would imply the subject feels resentment towards a more 'priviliged minority' that, in this context, wields a lot of power in 'the media'.

I think such an attitude can indeed legitimately be considered to be anti-semitic, for the simple reason that that kind of resentment cannot recognise that the large number of individual Jewish people in positions of ownership or authority or excellence in a wide variety of fields from business and finance through tall the professions and sciences and arts may just be down to, not privilige, but to sheer hard work, education and endeavour.

Should it be the case, however, that any possible accusations of 'cronyism' in inappropriate places turn out to be credible, whether Jewish-related or WASP-related or whatever should be irrelevant, these should be taken seriously, imho, in a serious meritocracy such as the USA.

Hope this makes sense.

[howaboutme]

207. Well stated

I'm finally getting around to reading the entirety of this thread. Rick Sanchez thought he was being screwed over because he was pulled from an evening anchor slot and in his place the job was given to Parker and Spitzer. That's what Wikipedia says. I do believe his resentment has been building on this. His mistake was getting into an on the air debate on this point. He was pissed and stupid but that doesn't make him a bigot except by today's hatchet job media.

If persons are hired, promoted or fired because of cronyism and their ethnic background it is absolutely racist. The problem comes down to proving it. How do you prove a negative such as I wasn't promoted because I was black. Ever since the Civil Rights Act of 1965 the government and litigation lawyers used "representation" as a barometer of racism. Ex: You have a labor force that is only 1% black in a country that is 12% black and that equates to racism.

[Leopolds Ghost]

219. Entertainment in NY/LA is a mostly Jewish profession, just like parking in DC is

mostly run by Ethiopian dudes. I think the figures are something like 40% compared to .5% of the population, according to a liberal columnist who recently addressed this issue. That's not merit, that's a mixture of being the only jobs available to highly educated Jewish people back in the 1930s-1950s and ethnic typecasting just like the Ethiopian parking guys got where they are by ethnic typecasting -- preferential practices towards people like them. It's not Anti-semitic to point that out. As a prominent commentator who happens to be Jewish himself (not pseudo-progressive like Stewart) recently noted this sort of demonization is ridiculous because what the guy said (last time this happened -- anyone who points this out gets fired for Anti-Semitism) is true. The question is, did Sanchez go beyond that?

And YES, it's a form of cronyism, and YES, the WASPs who run Wall Street and hide behind various other white collar ethnic minorities got where they are thanks to institutionalized cronyism. And the WASPS OWN our ass. They find it much more convenient to hide behind accusations of bias by promoting members of one ethnic minority faster than others than to hide behind accusations of anti-communism. Unfortunately it's a problem that only Jewish people on the left can do anything about, and nobody listens to the left anymore, since the Democratic party is now the party of the right and everyone else is the far-right. So I'm a little reluctant to sign onto the "let's demonize anyone who mentions the underrepresentation of minorities in the news media" band wagon.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

254. It Does

But I don't think doctors and scientists can "fake it".

[Dappleganger]

90. We have no idea if that's all it was.

My educated guess was that there was a whole lot said behind closed doors and more than likely a history of things.

[howaboutme]

92. Agreed

this has been festering with him and eventually opinions will come out.

[jobycom]

126. It was the comment about Jews running CNN that did it, not the Jon Stewart comments.

Also, he's gone off before on CNN, so he's probably already been warned.

Sad thing is, I think he raised some valid points about minorities and especially Hispanics in the industry, but those won't be heard now because he went too far with the comment about Jews.

[Leopolds Ghost]

225. All he said was that Jon Stewart was NOT, as the show host claimed, an oppressed minority in media.

[jobycom]

241. He claimed Jews run CNN and "all the other networks."

"I'm telling you that everyone who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority?....Yeah"

I agree his point was that Stewart has never faced the type of job discrimination in the media that Sanchez has probably faced. I even sympathize with Sanchez and think he was trying to make some good points. But that's such an old, damaging stereotype that it's hard to look the other way. They couldn't just say "Yeah, he insulted Jews with age old stereotypes that have been used to justify their slaughter from the Middle Ages to the Holocaust, but we don't think he meant it. He was just trying to insult one Jew." They weren't going to go out on a limb for someone who they had just demoted, anyway.

It sucks. I get the whole picture. I get that Sanchez has faced discrimination his whole life. I get that he was frustrated about his demotion and about the whole way he's been treated his whole career, and if his point about the John Quinones comparison is true, he had very specific reasons for it. I see what he sees, that often Hispanics in high profile jobs are seen as tokens, as second tier professionals just to fill unofficial quotas. And I get that he was only trying to say that Stewart has never faced that type of discrimination in the industry even as a Jew. But he just stepped too deep in it.

On the plus side for him, he's probably tripled interest in his book. Maybe that will land him in a better job.

[lynne]

58. He got what he deserved. Big No-No to bite the hand that feeds you. eom

[chieftain]

64. I guess Rick made Rick' List. n/t

[chillspike]

65. This is so weird

It wasn't more than two weeks ago that Sanchez was defending Jon from fans via twitter who had thought Jon had went overboard on Sanchez. He even called Jon a "friend".

[Ruby the Liberal]

68. That anti-jew rant was over the top. Good on CNN

For those who missed it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9237247

[Name removed]

107. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Malikshah]

114. Thank you. I've seen this "anti-semite" meme grow like wild fire. Shame on folks!

Sanchez is an ass through and through. An anti-semite a la David Duke? Hardly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

161. Are Jews Out Of Touch With The Working Class?

Have you spoke with any of them?

[Leopolds Ghost]

224. Half my friends are Jewish and a lot more liberal than most DUers & I agree w/ previous poster.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

252. Agree With Him About What

The only group to vote for Obama in higher numbers in 08 were African Americans.

[whathehell]

273. Not the Jews I knew growing up...Half of them were IN the working class.

or close to it.

To say, or imply that Jews represent only the "good school" upper middle class and wealthy in this country is bullshit.

I've known plumbers, policeman, salesmen, retail managers, small business owners, etc. who were Jewish.

All jews aren't rich or "elite" in the manner Sanchez and some others would have it.

[BrklynLiberal]

170. wow.............speaking of anti-semitism.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

255. +1

`

[COLGATE4]

188. What in the hell do you mean "overrepresented"????????

Is there some magical percentage allocated by some unknown power or diety that indicates just what percentage of WASPS, Latinos, Jews, African Americans, Asians, Native Americans, etc. are allowed to (or should be) in certain positions? On what basis do you make your teabagger statement that "people like that are a little out of touch with the working class"?? You need to think about posting on Free Republic or Stormfront.

[whathehell]

290. Oh my gawd, the defensiveness..

You can believe me or not, but I once took a class called "Everything you wanted to know about Judaism, but were afraid to ask".

The rabi who was leading the class HIMSELF used the word "overrepresented" in terms of the number of Jews in certain professionsm and it wasn't "prompted" by anyone in the class.

Do you won't to tell HIM to post "on Free Republic or Stormfront"?:eyes:

[thesquanderer]

199. Bad defense of Sanchez

It's no secret that Jewish people are over represented in executive positions as they are successful and have it good in this country right now. He didn't say there was something wrong with that, just that people like that are a little out of touch with the working class.

The problem with that is when you say "people like that" you appear to be talking about Jews as opposed to people in executive positions, and there's no logic to that. I'm sure there's a name for the logical fallacy of saying execs are likely to be out-of-touch, and many execs are Jews, therefore Jews are likely to be out of touch. I always forget the names of the various kinds of ridiculous arguments, but they seem to come up a lot when talking to people trying to make some divisive point about ethnic groups.

But let's forget that logical flaw and look at the argument you're trying to claim is reasonable.

Jews may be, as you say, "over represented" in certain high-powered areas, perhaps because of a cultural emphasis on education... but oddly enough, this same group who you say tends to be out of touch with the working class is also known to be disproportionately Democrat/liberal and sympathetic to working class issues.

So I don't see where any part of your Sanchez defense works on any level. If he brings any action about this, I hope he finds himself a better lawyer. Maybe a... oh, go ahead, fill in the joke yourself. :-)

[LanternWaste]

201. You can of course point us towards valid, peer-reviewed links

"Jewish people are over represented in executive positions as they are successful..."

You can of course point us towards valid, peer-reviewed links which present us with an objective breakdown of ownership-by-race/religion in the "successful" demographic? You can give us precise ratios of Jewish-ownership vs. ownership by all other demographics?

Or is this simply something you've heard somewhere...?

[bloomington-lib]

77. That's what happens when cable news has more opinion programs than actual news programs

News reported with some kind of anger or disgust turns me off too. I do enjoy some Rachel though:)

[howaboutme]

87. We report you decide

It is too bad for us Americans that our news networks are about the opposite and into swinging public opinion by omission and inclusion rather than reporting all the news and facts and then letting the public decide.

That is true about them all, CNN, FOX and MSNBC and to a lesser extent the major entertainment networks.

Sanchez was a biased opinionator, and not a real reporter. Truthfully I don't want to hear their opinions. I want to hear all the facts.

[high density]

79. Sanchez is mad because Stewart pokes fun at him often

What an ass.

[James48]

80. Who is Rick Sanchez? n/t

[Skip Intro]

81. Biting the hand that feeds...nt

[Ysabela]

89. Don't mess with Jon *Leibowitz* (aka Jon Stewart)! n/t

[boppers]

305. Especially if you're Ricardo León Sánchez de Reinaldo.

There's a fork up thread discussing "Rick" calling people out for changing their names.

[uncommon]

93. Good. He has no business being in the "news" industry. The man is a moron.

[BrklynLiberal]

171. Sadly..that is one of the prerequisites these days for most of the jobs in the media.

[whathehell]

238. Do you really think Wolf Blitzer is any better? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

256. He Sucks Too

I always thought he was a clown.

What does he have to do with Sanchez?

[whathehell]

260. He works for CNN.

[ooglymoogly]

264. He works for AIPEC nt

[whathehell]

266. Don't you mean AIPAC?

If so, I thought that was a past state of affairs, but whatever.

[ooglymoogly]

269. Yes, to late to correct, sorry for the typo. nt

[whathehell]

270. No problem.

Does he still work for AIPAC?

[ooglymoogly]

271. Ask that question on google. nt

[whathehell]

272. Why not

just tell me if you know.:shrug:

[ooglymoogly]

296. Again; ask the search engine gods and ye shall be rewarded with wisdom.

Make up your own mind.

[whathehell]

297. I don't know...They don't seem to have done much for you in that area..

:rofl:

[ooglymoogly]

311. I guess you see what you want to see....that is the magic of google.

Hilarity notwithstanding.

[whathehell]

314. Relativity only goes so far...The "magic" of google not withstanding.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

278. A Lot Of People "Suck", IMHO, On CNN

But "sucking" isn't a "fireable" offense.

[whathehell]

284. I'm not sure of that...It probably depends on HOW you "suck". n/t

[jillan]

94. Oy Vey - I kinda liked his show....that schmuck!

[matt819]

95. Post-Racial, my ass

I say post-racial, which is how the Obama era was defined as it was ushered into office a couple of years ago. Turns out we were far from post-racial. It seems that Obama's election and the rise of the extremist right has lifted the top off the pressure cooker of just about all anti- attitudes. While we haven't seen incidents similar to that which resulted in the murder of Matthew Shepard, we certainly do see people perfectly happy to state and act on their utter contempt for the LGBT community.

The anti-Black and anti-Hispanic attitudes among the treasonous right are fairly obvious.

Anti-semitism was never that much below the surface, but clearly it was bubbling all along with Mr. Sanchez. Surely he felt somewhere along the line in that interview that he should hit the STFU button.

No if only Murdoch and Ailes would do the same for their crew of bigots and hatemongers. Yeah, right.

[edbermac]

96. Damn those uppity Jews!

Ah well, once Glenn Beck implodes, they'll give Rick a shot.

[TonyMontana]

102. ANOTHER Jon Stewart casualty

First Crossfire, now this.

[butterfly77]

103. Too bad...

Mr.Dramatic is gone. I guess it is all about you now.

[McCamy Taylor]

108. OMG!

[Gator_Matt]

109. It's not so much what he said but how he said it

Sanchez is a dummy. I don't care for him, but I'm willing to bet he would still have a job had he worded it more delicately. He easily could have said Jon Stewart is a liberal who discounts non-liberal views. Instead he called him a bigot and then, inexplicably, badmouthed his bosses.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

110. It's a shame.

I enjoyed his idiocy.

[SoapBox]

111. Ha-Ha and Buh-Bye RickyAssHat!

[Doctor_J]

112. Must already have a Fox gig lined up

for more money, and didn't want to serve out the rest of his contract.

[harun]

115. What the hell is the "white liberal establishment point of view."?

[Leopolds Ghost]

231. Neoliberalism in the style of Bill Clinton, Obama and the DLC?

[Honeycombe8]

116. What does Sanchez's comment have to do with Jews? ????

Am I missing something here?

[ingac70]

119. ....

"I’m telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they — the people in this country who are Jewish — are an oppressed minority?" Yeah. - Rick Sanchez

[Honeycombe8]

128. Oh....that wasn't in the clip I heard. Yeah, that's anti-semitic. But that's not what I heard.

What I heard was "they...the people like him, who are white middle class liberals...."

[ingac70]

129. The whole thing can be heard here...

http://standupwithpetedominick.com/blog/cnns-rick-sanchez-jews-like-bigot-jon-stewart-run-cnn-the-networks/

[HEyHEY]

150. One moron douchebag down, 400 to go

[Honeycombe8]

184. Thx! nt

[COLGATE4]

191. X 2!!!

[Leopolds Ghost]

223. I don't see what's Anti-semitic about this excerpt. He's talking about preferential treatment

Asked again what group Stewart is bigoted against, Sanchez replied, referring to Stewart in the second person:

"Anybody who’s different than you are, anybody who’s not form your frame of reference; anybody who doesn’t look and sound exactly like the people that you sound and grew up with. The people that you put on your show, who always reflect somebody who’s, “I’m bringing in to sit around me,” you know, who’s very different from me. I’m sorry, but I just don’t buy this thing that the only people out there who are prejudiced… are the Right. There’s people that are prejudiced on both sides."

Sanchez went on to claim that Stewart’s worldview is “very much a white, liberal establishment point of view.” Sanchez added:

"He can’t relate to a guy like me. He can’t relate to a guy whose dad worked all his life. He can’t relate to somebody who grew up poor."

Inexplicably, Sanchez argued, “If we’re gonna call one side bigoted, we probably gotta look at the other side and say the same thing.” This, of course, does not stand to reason in the slightest, but Pete noted that he agreed racism and prejudice are not the exclusive domain of conservatives, which Pete has stated countless times on the air.

At the end of the first exchange of the day about Stewart’s alleged bigotry, Pete pushed Rick to back off a bit, and Sanchez eventually conceded:

"All right, I’ll take the word bigot back; I’ll say prejudicial — uninformed."

Later in the interview, Sanchez pushed the discussion again, returning to the idea that Stewart is “prejudiced,” though again backing away from the word “bigot.”

If I did just sit there and read the teleprompter every day, Jon Stewart would never say a word about me. He’d say I’m a good Hispanic anchor, “Way to go, you’ve done a good job, stay right there.” … I am a complex human being, I’m not some moron to be…”

At least part of Sanchez’s gripe with Stewart, he said, is that Stewart picks on Sanchez for superficial on-air failings instead of substantial offenses like those committed by Fox News personalities, and the Daily Show does this in order to be seen as criticizing CNN as much as it criticizes Fox News Channel. (Regular watchers of The Daily Show know that Fox takes far more of Stewart’s media-savvy ribbing than CNN does, but Sanchez claimed Stewart sought parity in comedically critiquing the two leading cable news operations.)

"Here’s what they do. This is the game they play. “I just picked on Fox News, because they just had a bold-faced lie about something — damnit, that means I gotta find something on CNN. Oh, I know… wait, hold on, let me find, oh that Rick Sanchez, that little Puerto Rican guy. I’ll make fun of him. Do you have anything.” “Uh, yeah, last week, he mispronounced the word indutably or whatever.” “Yeah, that’s it, find me that and we’ll do a whole 4-minute segment on how he mispronounced the word arithmetic.”

When Pete defended Jon Stewart as “just a comedian,” Sanchez shot back, “That’s a cop-out.” (I happen to agree with Sanchez on that one.)

When Pete Dominick (show host suggested Jews (such as Stewart) have at least some sense of what it’s like to be an oppressed minority, Sanchez seemed to make the claim that Jews run CNN and the news business in general and that Stewart thus did not in fact know what it was like to feel the sting of prejudice.

“Yeah,” Sanchez snickered sarcastically at the (show host's) idea that Jews are as much minorities as Latinos in the US.

"Very powerless people… (snickers) He’s such a minority, I mean, you know (sarcastically)… Please, what are you kidding? … I’m telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they — the people in this country who are Jewish — are an oppressed minority? Yeah. (sarcastically)"

That’s right, CNN anchor Rick Sanchez basically suggested that Jews have run the media.

(Uh, no, Mr-person-who-suggested-Jon-Stewart-was-oppressed, he simply said that Jon Stewart is not a minority in CNN HQ, he's probably in the majority and this influences what he can say vs. what a hispanic guy would be allowed to say.)

Sanchez also suggested Jews in general, at least of his generation or younger, are not discriminated against, (!!!) though they might hear the occasional Jew joke now and again.

"I grew up not speaking English, dealing with real prejudice every day as a kid; watching my dad work in a factory, wash dishes, drive a truck, get spit on. I’ve been told that I can’t do certain things in life simply because I was a Hispanic. My friends who are black, I’ve seen that with them; I’ve seen that with a lot of minorities. I can’t really think — although I understand the plight of Jews, and all the experiences, and the things that have happened historically for them — but I can’t say that my buddy Glen or my buddy Izzy who I grew up with in South Florida ever were prejudiced against directly simply because they were Jewish. There may have been jokes around them or about other things, but it’s kinda — you know what I’m saying, it’s kind of a different thing."

“No, I don’t,” Pete replied.

“I can’t see somebody not getting a job somewhere because they’re Jewish,” Sanchez added.

“Well, then you’ve never been to Nebraska,” Pete shot back to lighten the mood.

(huh? Nebraskans are anti-semitic? this little tidbit is why we're doing so well in the polls)

[COLGATE4]

190. You've got to be kidding. Read what he said.

[Mosaic]

117. CNN is going down the drain

All for profit media sucks though. Including Jon Stewert. The only media worth anything anymore is online people talking to each other and exposing the bullshit being fed to us by corporate media and other big money media.

[timefortherevolution]

139. I would fan you for that comment if I could...

I often skip the NYT opinion editorials just to read the "real" commentary from readers.

[russspeakeasy]

118. Now that Rick is gone, who will pat Rick on the back and

mention his name every couple of minutes.   Can someone update
me???? Where was the DUI charge and what were the
circumstances??  I for one am glad he is gone....

[rabs]

142. DUI and got away with murder

or manslaughter or whatever a hit-and-run death is called

(Rick Sanchez Wiki)

Drunk driving
On December 10, 1990, Sanchez struck a drunken pedestrian, Jeffrey Smuzinick, with his car on a residential street near Dolphin Stadium (then known as Joe Robbie Stadium) and left the scene, returning two hours later.<12> Smuzinick was paralyzed and eventually died in an assisted living facility on November 2, 1995.<13> Sanchez had just left the NFL football game between the Miami Dolphins and the Philadelphia Eagles with his father when the accident occurred. Police breathalyzer results determined that Sanchez's blood alcohol level was above the legal limit for driving. He was not charged with causing the accident, but was charged with and pleaded no contest to driving under the influence (DUI).<14>

----------------
Sanchez was drunk as a skunk when he left the stadium. He struck Smuzinick and fled the scene. He returned later (two hours, according to above) and told cops that he had been so flustered that he had gone home to have a drink. But since he was a TV personality in Cuban-American-run Miami, he was let off with only the DUI charge, not with the hit-and-run.

I was in South Florida during the Elian Gonzalez custody fight. At the time Sanchez railed against returning Elian to his father and to Cuba.

Sanchez is what is known as a "gusano," a rabidly anti-Castro maggot, as the rightwing Cubans in South Florida are called.

[WestSeattle2]

120. Mr. Sanchez really has a chip on his shoulder...man oh man...

endless rants about the way he grew up and how he's being shafted....Seriously? The man was anchor of his own show on CNN for godsakes!

Probably 98% of working people would have traded careers with him in a heartbeat.

[ClusterFreak]

122. The only thing bigger than Sanchez'massive ego...

...is his mouth. What a world class a**hole. I would never wish anyone fired (Okay...Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh...) but if anyone asked for it with some spectacularly stupid and **ahem** bigoted comments...it was Sanchez.

Stewart is a bigot because he calls Rick 'stupid'?? Jews run CNN and everything else and so on and so forth....?? Stewart is bigoted against anyone who disagrees with him? He's like Beck and O'Reilly?

Really.

Rick, you really are stupid.

Oh, and one more thing...you're right at the top of the list...you don't want to be on.

Ouch.

p.s. And I bet Jessica Yellin and Brooke Baldwin will be relieved to not have to have you leer at them and tell them how beautiful they are on air anymore. Wildly unprofessional and totally workplace sexual harassment. What a toolshed.

[Janice325]

123. This is probably out of left field, but maybe it's a cost cutting

effort to save bucks for when asshole (IMO) Piers Morgan takes over for Larry King. Another CNN show I won't be watching, and I hope it tanks big time!!!

I guess a lot would depend on what type, if any, package they give Sanchez.

Heck, I didn't mind Sanchez, but then again, I really wasn't a regular viewer, so I really don't know what kind of doodyhead he might have been,but that's just my two cents, for what it's worth. :-)

[progressoid]

124. Don't tase him bro!

The Daily Show has that Sanchez taser clip as a "moment of Zen"

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-8-2005/moment-of-zen---sanchez-taser

[jobycom]

131. Sad thing is, he raised some valid issues before pulling the "Jews run the world" card.

I don't watch cable news, but I watched a few clips of Sanchez just to see if he was someone I remembered (he wasn't). Most of the clips were of him sounding liberalish--taking on a Republican Congressperson, taking on Lou Dobbs for his constant hammering of "illegal" immigrants, talking about his parents not speaking English.

The biggest problem I saw with him is that he wasn't that good. He chose words poorly, he rambled, and ultimately he didn't express himself well. With Lou Dobbs he started out strong, but Dobbs countered him with his sophisticated style, and Sanchez just collapsed instead of following up. He did the same thing to the Congresswoman--he just couldn't hold his own in a discussion once it went past what he had scripted beforehand.

So his rant started out making valid points about how execs see Hispanics and other minorities as "second tier" anchors, and even raising a specific example of him being compared to other Hispanic reporters--something that should have caused CNN to at least investigate the claim. Then he called Stewart a bigot and a liberal elite who was always on his case. He did retract the "bigot" claim, and changed it to "prejudiced," but as in the other clips I saw, his word choice and ability to argue on his feet was just too weak. He was really trying to claim that Stewart was biased by his upbringing, that he didn't understand the working class poor--not sure I agree, but still a decent point to debate--but he couldn't grab the right nuance.

Then he claimed Jews weren't a persecuted minority and they ran CNN and everything else, and it was over for him.

Overall, he looks like a guy with a chip on his shoulder. It's an understandable chip--he's faced discrimination and heard his colleagues describe people like his parents in generalized, dehumanizing terms all the time. He's like a kid who's grown up expecting to be beaten, and who flinches whenever someone raises a hand for any reason. It probably has made him wary of any criticism, which is why he thinks of Stewart as he does--an elitist who attacks him instead of trying to understand what all he's had to overcome to get where he is. I get it, I even sympathize. But his inability to express himself in a profession which is about expressing himself was his biggest problem. And the fatal issue was that he has turned his anger not just against the system and its unfairness, but against specific people and groups, so that he becomes the prejudiced one. He feels so persecuted that he has begun to persecute.

I think before the Jews comment he only needed a reprimand, but when he went there, they had to fire him.

[WeekendWarrior]

310. Oh my God

How many times does this have to be said? He never said "jews run the world" nor did he even infer it. What he said was bad enough, but you don't have to distort it. When you distort shit like this, you're no better than Republican spinmeisters.

[valerief]

132. Mazel Tov! nt

[newtothegame]

133. Am I really seeing DU condemn anti-semitism?? What a landmark day! nt

[proteus_lives]

148. I'm with you. This thread is kinda making me ill.

[pettypace]

135. Calling Jon Stewart a bigot couldn't get you fired

even if Jon's parents were your boss. How some of you posters gleaned that as the reason is puzzling.

Now, the OTHER part of his remarks, that don't work.

Here be a sampling of CEO's/Presidents:

Disney/ABC - Robert Iger

CBS - Les Moonves
Viacom - Philip Dauman

NBC - Jeff Zucker
GE - Jeff Immelt

Last two heads of CNN:
Jon Klein
Ken Jautz

You don't have to be Rick Sanchez to notice a trend.

Good luck living in oblivion Ricardo.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

163. What's Your Final Solution?

Should there be quotas?

Twenty two percent of all the Nobel Prizes have been awarded to Jews. Should there be a quota on how many Jews can be awarded them?

[whathehell]

274. How about honesty?

The allusions to The Holocaust are bit over the top, dont you think?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

276. The Nuremberg Laws Which Included Quotas On The Number Of Jews In The Professions Was The Prelude

The Nuremberg Laws which included quotas on the number of Jews in the professions was the prelude to the Holocaust so no.

[whathehell]

283. Except this isn't pre-WWII Germany, for god's sake.

.:eyes: and you need to stop projecting those extreme analogies onto 21st Century America. Continuing to do so can be interpreted as an attempt to shut down ALL honest discussion, and that's no going to work.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

286. Honest Discussion About What?

Respectfully, if you believe Jews control the media or have disproportionate power in the U.S. or the world there are are websites where these topics are considered legitimate topics for discussion or debate.

If you want to discuss it here I will oblige you. I can not speak for the administrator(s).

[whathehell]

287. Honest discussion about ANYTHING relating to America, its people, politics and power.

and don't try and put words in my mouth or "bait" me..It won't work with me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

289. I Wasn't Trying To Bait Anybody

You suggested I was trying to stifle honest discussion. What prompted your suggestion was my taking umbrage at the thinly veiled assertion that "Jews control the media".

Respectfully, do you or do you not believe Jews have too much power in the media, the United States, and the world?

If you think they have too much power in one or two areas not the others we can discuss them one by one.

Thank you.

[whathehell]

291. I suggested that using

Third Reich comparisons and "Final Solution" talk was, in general, extreme and poorly analogized in discussing America. I also said that I thought the use of such hyperbole CAN be used to stifle discussion.

You ask: "Do you or Do you not believe..". It's all "yes and "no"..black or white. Is there any room there for an "I don't know"?..or a "maybe"?

It doesn't sound like it. And no, were I to discuss such topics it would have to be with someone who seemed far less angry and defensive than you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

292. Respectfully, The Readers Can Decide Who Is Being Defensive

The poster suggested there were too many Jews in executive positions in the media. The way to "cure" that is by quotas. I believe that proposing quotas on Jews in the professions is not fundamentally different from what was proposed in the Nuremberg Laws and those laws were particularly odious.

We can start with the following question:

Do you believe Jews have too little power, too much power, or the about right amount of power in the media?

[whathehell]

293. Respectfully,

That's true...and as stated earlier, I am not having this discussion with you.

[LanternWaste]

193. I'm not very clever... what trend?

I'm not very clever... what trend?

[Leopolds Ghost]

237. As several progressive Jewish bloggers have noted, there is an overrepresentation in the media.

Which skews reporting on certain subjects, just like in WASP dominated fields.

Saying so is no different than saying that wealthy young technocrats (of ALL
races) are overrepresented in the ranks of the "New" anti-New Deal coalition
in the Democratic party they are trying to build out from under us.

The problem is we can't challenge media bias anymore without the executives
hiding behind Anti-Semitism and even worse, trotting out the old canard that
populism is inherently fascist and anti-semitic, so tar anyone who is a populist
or anti-establishment with the same brush -- racist and anti-semitic tea-baggers,
the lot of them!

It's also worth noting that anti-muslim sentiments are a form of anti-semitism
by definition, and usually expressed as such.

[Behind the Aegis]

239. Learn the definition

anti-Semitism


Dictionary: an·ti-Sem·i·tism

Home > Library > Literature & Language > Dictionary(ăn'tē-sĕm'ĭ-tĭz'əm, ăn'tī-)
n.
1.Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2.Discrimination against Jews.

"It's also worth noting that anti-muslim sentiments are a form of anti-semitism by definition, and usually expressed as such."

No, it is not. It is just another tactic of disingenuous word play from those who make excuses for hate and bigotry against Jews.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

257. The Teabaggers Aren't Anti-Semitic

Their animus is targeted at other groups. But they are swine to me as are all bigots.

[boppers]

306. BtA gave a simple definition:

More reading here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology

[Zavulon]

136. Sad that he blew up like that, but I'm glad to see him go.

"Complex human being," my ass. He IS a moron, he wasn't good at his job, it was agony watching him and CNN would have been better a lot sooner by canning him long before this. It got to the point where I'd change the channel when he came on; listening him must be what watching old people have sex is like.

Not only did he get fired, but he truly deserved it, making an ass out of himself in the process. No complaints here. Adios, asshole.

[newtothegame]

137. Lemme get this straight. A racial minority speaks truth to white power and is FIRED for it...

And DU IS CELEBRATING?? WTF?? :shrug:

[pettypace]

140. Either your username is spot-on...

..or you're trying to scurry around the real issue here.

If it's the latter, we both know this is the line you can't cross.

Rick bit the hand that fed him.

[Behind the Aegis]

141. What's the "real" issue?

[Leopolds Ghost]

232. Not sure I get what you're aiming at...

[AzNick]

143. Although he's right to a certain extent

Jews are in power in the media. As they are wherever a good education, a sane ambition and, one has to admit, a few good connections help.

Same can be said for the WASPs.

I sort of know what he meant, that as a Hispanic it is much harder to get to a position of power in the US than if you were a member of both aforementioned communities.

BUT he screwed up on the delivery. I would personally have shut up and kept on doing my thing, and waited patiently for a moment to make my point in a good, positive and constructive manner.

Maybe Jon Stewart could have understood this as well.

Then, again, he does not go as strongly against Ed Schultz as he used to. What happened? These two met and talked? Ed said he would beat Jon up and Jon realized that Ed is for real?

Who knows...

[BillH76]

275. He's right about Hollywood.

Jews have run the production end of the movie business from the very beginning: Marcus Loew, Louis B. Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Barney Balaban, Harry Cohen, William Fox, Carl Laemmle, Adolph Zukor, and the four Warner brothers, Jack, Samuel, Albert and Harry. The same goes for teevee networks: Larry Tisch (CBS), Stu Bloomberg (ABC), Leonard Grossman & Irvin Segelstein (NBC).

They saw a good thing, got in early, and became very successful. I have no objection to that. If Chicanos want to run something, they can if they work hard and make smart investments. But the movie business is, shall we say, already taken.

I know Mel Gibson, who is a racist, got in trouble for saying that Jews run Hollywood. But it's pretty much true. I think Mel is jealous because HE would like to run Hollywood.

Disclaimer: I am not an antisemite, and this is not an antisemitic post.

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[BobisKewl]

146. This reminds me of.......

The Arab man in Israel who got sent to prison on rape charges for telling a Jewish Women he was Jewish on a date that resulted in consensual sex.

Because he didnt inform her he was Arab he was charged with rape! Even though it was consensual!

[Behind the Aegis]

147. It does? What an odd defense of anti-Semitism.

BTW, the story you are telling isn't correct, but I doubt that matters to you.

[BobisKewl]

217. Wrong........

Arab Man Convicted Of Rape After Posing As Jew To Seduce Woman

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/21/arab-man-convicted-of-rap_n_654425.html

[Behind the Aegis]

221. Educate yourself.

Recently, the Tel Aviv weekly Ha'ir published the transcript of the trial in which Sabbar Kashur, an Arab, was convicted of rape by deceit, duping a woman by posing as a Jew named Dudu. As it turns out according to the report by Lital Grossman, the sex was not consensual, but was actually rape, of the clear-cut, cruel "simple" kind.

"He told me that if I were quiet and did not resist, then it would be, like, it would be over more quickly and it would not be, like, he would not use force. But I did resist and it was by force" - with blood and scratches and scars, which are documented at the hospital to which she was taken.

Indeed, the original indictment was for forcible rape and the accused was the one to initiate the plea bargain, in which he confessed "only" to rape by deception.

And all this time I, too, thought that the court was racist and what would be natural with a Jewish guy was considered rape when with an Arab. I, too, did not stop to think that it is unlikely that a woman would jump on a guy named Dudu, drag him off for wild consensual sex and when she found out his name was Sabbar, would complain that he had raped her.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/believe-in-each-other-1.312429

Empahsis added to help your comprehension.

[BobisKewl]

227. Sorry I dont read Israeli news

You dont have to be insulting about it.

[Leopolds Ghost]

234. On Edit: answered my own question, that story was inaccurate

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[Jim Sagle]

157. Next stop rense.com for the Rickter.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[madokie]

160. I'm sure 'leslie' blitzer had something to do with it too

the wolf man sucks bigtime

[Jim Sagle]

307. No doubt he put in a word to the other Wolfie and it was all taken care of.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Hubert Flottz]

187. FOX would be a perfect place for Rick...

[onlyadream]

196. Rick blasted Colbert

after Colbert mocked him which made Rick very angry since the day before he was praising Colbert. I happened to catch Rick ranting about Colbert and my impression was that Rick lost it completely and was very unprofessional. He should have let it go. I feel sorry for the guy b/c I think he was liberal, but he just isn't so smart.

[ensho]

197. and the Supreme Court is Catholic

nt

[whathehell]

267. Not completely....

It's catholics and jews at this point -- No protestants.

[demi moore]

202. free trip to sanity rally from NY

huffington post taking as many people as can get to the huffington post. lets hope all of NYU shows up. wish i could make it.

[Johnny2X2X]

206. FOX NEWS

How long do you think it will take FAUX NEWS to offer him a job?

[ooglymoogly]

218. I am a little conflicted....Sanchez had his moments.

He is not Fuks material. He is closer to a liberal. My jaw dropped on the confused Stewart comments. I feel for Sanchez and I know Jon did not want this to happen. Wish it had been the Snit$er instead of Rick. Rick looked like he is near a breakdown and not thinking straight.

Because of the Snit$er Blit$er and friends (Barbara $tarr et al), I do not watch CNN since Blit$er with his ties and allegiances to A!PAC and his tag team (Barbera $tarr now trying to start a war with Iran by unilaterally claiming Iran has a nuclear weapons program even though it is untrue or at least unfounded) were a large part of enabling the Bushmaster (THE REAL DEAL) to steal an election and fomenting the war with Iraq. My blood boils every time I see any of them and my tee vee is in danger of a chop to the vitals or a book thrown at it.

[Arugula Latte]

299. My take was that he grew up Miami Cuban-Republican but maybe tempered his stance

He admitted he voted for Bush (at least in the 2000 election, don't know about 2004). Once in awhile he seemed a little sane, though.

[Name removed]

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[BobisKewl]

222. Look at median income of Jewish Americans vs. Hispanic Americans

There is a huge difference. Jewish Americans are no longer an oppressed minority. Hispanics are.

You people are being reactionary. and in the purpose, probably supporting an illegal firing of this guy.

That is not progressive at all.

[COLGATE4]

226. And your considered legal opinon that there was probably

"an illegal firing of this guy" is based on what? Or are you a proud graduate of the Close Cover Before Striking School of Law? It's too bad the Bush administration is over - you would have made a great member of his 'Justice' Department.

[BobisKewl]

228. Typical, react with hostility

......................... If he had said Jews are evil or something then that is obviously an insult. But to say Jews run the networks....... What is so bad about that...... that is something to be proud of.

Well nevermind, your fellow republicans made it so a person can be fired for any reason at all.

So you hate worker rights as well as free speech..... and you tell me I would do well at the Bush JD.

[howaboutme]

253. Is it about donations and power, or the oppressed?

Can anyone give a real answer or just a political what we want to hear answer?

Oppression should take precedence, but we know politicians like money and reality is about money precedence.

The oppressed become the rationale for ideological beliefs. The money is what runs politics.

[ooglymoogly]

263. +1 nt

[BobisKewl]

229. so are we still allowed to speak against the occupation?

maybe everyone should be fired for that...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

258. Rick Sanchez Was Fired For Opposing The Occupation

I thought he was fired for saying Jews run the world.

[howaboutme]

262. But wasn't he fired for claiming discrimination by CNN?

He raised the issue of discrimination at CNN and instead the media circus has oddly reversed the tables and turned Sanchez into the one accused of bigotry.

Good attorneys and private investigators could easily ascertain if his claim is valid by examining CNN's on-screen demographic makeup, their hiring and historic promotion practices. Such a litigation tactic has been used regularly against corporations by the government, EEO and private litigants.

If discrimination is taking place, should CNN be held accountable regardless of the ethnic makeup involved? I support full ethnic diversity within reason and without any ambiguity. If Sanchez is right CNN could be stuck with wrongful firing and punitive action.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

277. If CNN Is Systematically Excluding Group They Should Be Sanctioned

~

[BobisKewl]

230. I wonder if Sanchez ever faced discrimination in the media biz cause hes Hispanic

I bet he has......... from that interview it sounds like Sanchez is mad and he is blaming Jews .

[oberliner]

251. You wonder that? Did you actually listen to the interview?

He addresses that point quite directly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

308. He Began His Career

He began his career in Miami where Cubans are fully integrated into every aspect of society. He also used his connections to walk away from a accident where he was intoxicated that resulted in the death of a pedestrian.

[tabasco]

243. He sucked, but they will probably replace him with somebody who sucks even more.

No matter to me - I don't watch that bilge anymore.

[Burma Jones]

279. Sanchez had the support of former CNN President Jonathan Klein........

After 6 years of declining ratings, Klein was fired earlier last week. When Klein was fired, the new CNN President, Ken Jautz, was given a golden opportunity to make a change....and he took it.

[rocktivity]

285. Acutally, this article should be titled

CNN Fires Rick Sanchez After Comments About Jews, Jon Stewart, and CNN

After calling Jon a bigoted, prejudicial Jew, Sanchez added, "I’m telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority?" Publicly insulting your superiors is still grounds for being fired.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[ooglymoogly]

309. Jon is a heavy weight compared to the fops and "news" (newspeak for propaganda) readers

on Cee In In.

All are helium filled gasbags, while there is gravitas and pure gold behind Jon's thinking. If not a Genius; pretty close.

Not watching corporate media; the few times I saw Sanchez he was off script, a loose cannon so to speak.

I guess that is why I liked him. I did not see all the exposure he is now getting on the youtube clips; not so pretty. He did do some good stuff though and I can think of 90% of the folks at CNN I would have fired before Sanchez, even as stupid as that jaw dropping bit of claptrap was.

I have no doubt Jon can take it with a rye grin and squash the likes of Sanchez. Calling Jon a bigot was a fatal mistake and he did at least, take it back. He said other things though, that were far more disturbing to a CNN who cannot handle criticism gracefully; especially when it hits too close to home.

Anyone taking on Jon is a fool, cus that is his genius. Like a gnat taking on the Zephyr

[boppers]

315. "fops"

I suggest:
a) You think about what you meant.
b) You look into the history of the word "fop".

[ooglymoogly]

317. Are you suggesting I do not know the meaning of "fop"

or have used it incorrectly?

Or do you think it means a rock band or is just an acronym?

A fop is a shallow person; more concerned with appearance than substance.

The word "fop" is first recorded in 1440, and for several centuries just meant a fool of any kind.

A modern-day fop may also be a reference to a foolish person who is overly concerned with appearance rather than substance and incapable of engaging in intellectual conversations, activities or thoughts.

A preening parrot or popinjay.

The word says precisely what I meant it to say; even with the sillier shadings that have attached to the word down through the centuries.

[boppers]

318. I was hoping to spark interest in making sure you used the word correctly.

The youth of today use a couple of different three letter words for the same purpose, with similar histories... the common lineage being to denigrate males for being "effeminate" in some way.