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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:17 PM
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Hamburg cell at heart of terrorist plot against Europe
Source: CNN

Hamburg, Germany (CNN) -- A group of jihadists from the German city of Hamburg is alleged to be at the heart of the recent al Qaeda plot to launch coordinated terrorist attacks against European cities, European intelligence officials said.

Western intelligence officials say they learned about the reported plot after Ahmed Sidiqi, a German citizen of Afghan descent, was arrested in Afghanistan in July and taken to the U.S. air base at Bagram for questioning. He has not been charged and intelligence sources in Germany say he is cooperating with the investigation.

In early 2009, Sidiqi and 10 others left Hamburg for the tribal areas of Pakistan -- where most joined a jihadist group fighting U.S. and coalition forces across the border in Afghanistan, according to German intelligence officials.

Sidiqi told American interrogators that at least one member of his travel group was to be a "foot soldier" in the plot, with other members of the group helping to plan the attacks, a European counterterrorism official told CNN.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/10/04/europe.terror.plot/index.html?hpt=T2
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:22 PM
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1. I just want to pointout here that there have been terrorist
incidents both before and after 9/11. Sometimes there really is a wolf.
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:29 PM
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2. I'm with you hedgehog
We've become too accustomed here on DU to naysay the terror warnings, thanks to GWB pushing the "terra!" button far too many times. I'm sort of thinking this current scare might be the real deal.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:31 PM
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3. I'd be happy if people just withheld judgment until the facts are in.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:40 PM
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4. I just wonder who's
feeding the wolves..?

It seems to be some of the same people who Mohamed Atta used to hang out with in Hamburg.

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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:50 PM
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5. Good question. We'll never know.
Although conspiratorial minds all point towards Dick Cheney.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 03:47 PM
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10. If we trace back to the usual suspects, start w/ Mamoun Darkazanli
Edited on Mon Oct-04-10 04:02 PM by leveymg
as the Chicago Tribune put it in an October 5, 2003, report, the list of those with whom the Hamburg-based businessman has had financial ties reads like a veritable “Who’s Who of al-Qaeda.” He's one of several Al-Qaeda figures who appears to have been everywhere and met with everyone in major al-Qaeda attacks, but for reasons that have never been satisfactorily explained, were repeatedly let go, and never spent significant time in prison, and are still living freely today under the protection of one or several intelligence agencies.

According to the report, Darkazanli first came to the attention of American intelligence services in 1998 at the latest.

At the time, he was an associate of Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, the jihadist financier and alleged al-Qaeda co-founder. Salim was convicted as a co-conspirator in the 1998 bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Starting in 1995, Darkazanli had power of attorney over Salim’s bank account at a branch of the Deutsche Bank in Hamburg.

As noted in a December 27, 2001, article in the New York Times, in the 1990s Darkazanli and the since convicted Qaeda co-conspirator Wadih El-Hage purchased a ship on behalf of Osama bin Laden. Is it a mere coincidence that the ship in question docked in the Saudi harbor of Jidda in late October 1995 and then set sail again merely one day before the November 13, 1995, attack on an American-operated military training center in the Saudi capital of Riyadh? Five Americans were killed in the attack.

Another Zarkazanli cohort, Rangzieb Ahmed, a UK-based Qaeda-operative was sentenced to life imprisonment for his role in planning terror attacks.

In late August 2001, shortly before the 9/11 attacks, Darkazanli was in contact with Barakat Yarkas, the then head of a Spanish al-Qaeda cell,is presently serving a prison term in Spain, is reported to have met with Darkazanli on several occasions.

Mohammed Zouaydi was also active in Spain at the time. Zouaydi is the former accountant of the Saudi royal family and a reputed al-Qaeda financier. Zouaydi is supposed to have financed terror commandos around the world. The Syrian-born Spanish citizen is said to have transferred no less than €667,000 to cells in the USA, Great Britain, Belgium, Yemen and Australia, among other places. €180,000 went to Mamoun Darkazanli (“Abu Ilias”), who was in charge of Mohammed Atta and his 9/11 suicide pilots. In addition to Atta, Darkazanli is said also to have recruited the logistics chief Ramzi Binalshibh. … In 2005, Zouaydi was sentenced to nine years by a Spanish Court.

In a December 2002 report that he prepared for the UN Security Council, terrorism expert Jean-Charles Brisard writes: “Money was funneled to the Hamburg cell through the Saudi Al Rahji bank to the businessmen Mahmoud Darkazanli and Abdul Fattah Zammar who provided the cell of hijackers with financial and logistical support.” In the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, President Bush ordered the freezing of the assets of 27 firms and persons suspected of financing terror: among them, Mamoun Darkazanli. On the website of Interpol, one can easily find the “wanted” notice under which, pursuant to a UN Security Council resolution, Mamoun Darkazanli is sought around the world.

Everywhere, that is, but in the country in which he lives: Germany. German authorities have never brought charges against him. Having identified him as a key figure in the European al-Qaeda network, the Spanish investigative judge Baltasar Garzón indicted Darkazanli as part of the same Spanish al-Qaeda indictment in which Yarkas was charged. In October 2004, Garzón submitted a request to have Darkazanli extradited to Spain.

Darkazanli was arrested. But just an hour before he was scheduled to be flown to Spain, Germany’s Constitutional Court ordered the extradition stopped. The court would later find the German legislation implementing the EU arrest warrant to be unconstitutional and require it to be rewritten.

In the meanwhile, Germany’s federal prosecutor’s office opened its own investigation into Darkazanli’s activities. But this investigation was closed down on July 14, 2006.

(Parts adapted from: Al-Qaeda Financier Remains a Free Man in Germany: The alleged target of a CIA (Blackwater) murder plot has avoided justice thanks to the protection of German authorities. February 11, 2010 - by Stefan Frank)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:21 PM
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12. Interesting...
Thanks leveymg, for digging a little deeper.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:55 PM
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13. I agree
and I assume the predator drone attack in the Af/Pak region that killed German citizens was part of the intel work against this terror cell.

at the same time, Benazir Bhutto claimed, in Nov. 2007, on the David Frost Show, that Osama bin Laden had been murdered by Omar Sheikh, the financier of the 9-11 attacks. When bin Laden appears, therefore - esp. considering his Sept. 2007 appearance that only had him talking about current events when the much spliced video was a still shot - people are also rightfully skeptical of any appearance he makes.

Tom Ridge also noted that Bush pressured him to use terror alerts in such a way that they politicized this issue - which is another reason people are rightfully skeptical.

I hope, in this case, the plot or plots have all been successfully dismantled.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:11 PM
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6. So....are we gonna drop a bomb on Hamburg? Just in the interest of consistency, you understand, n/t
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:23 PM
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8. Actually, that would be inconsistent with what happened after the last "Hamburg cell incident" n/t
Edited on Mon Oct-04-10 01:24 PM by Turborama
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:16 PM
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7. So, which is it, "Hamburg cell", "2 British brothers", or both?
British brothers 'behind plot to terrorise Europe'

Pakistani sources say extremists planning Mumbai-style attacks had domestic links

By Cahal Milmo, Chief Reporter

Friday, 1 October 2010

Two British brothers based in Pakistan were at the heart of a plot to launch "Mumbai-style" terrorist attacks in Britain and other European countries, it was claimed yesterday. One of the men, named as Abdul Jabbar, was killed earlier this month in a missile strike by an unmanned American drone as part of a series of attacks directly aimed at the organisers of the plan to stage co-ordinated killing sprees by groups of commandos in major European cities.

A Pakistani intelligence official said the two Britons had been tracked for nearly a year in North Waziristan, a lawless tribal region which has become a hub for Islamist militants, along with eight German citizens who were also involved with the al-Qa'ida-linked plot.

The men had been making phone calls to London and Germany to begin the process of activating the plot by finding accomplices in Europe, the official said. Western security sources said on Wednesday that the scheme had recently moved from being an aspiration to concrete planning and was "still active".

The Pakistani official, part of the team in charge of tracking the suspects, told the Associated Press: "They have been making calls to Germany and London. They have been talking about and looking for facilitators and logistics they need there to carry out terror attacks.

More: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/british-brothers-behind-plot-to-terrorise-europe-2094515.html
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:40 PM
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9. In order to be consistent
we would need to bomb Switzerland. That probably won't happen though, since the BFEE is no longer in the WH.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 06:21 PM
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11. US drone strike kills Germans in Pakistan: officials
PESHAWAR, Pakistan — A US drone strike on Monday killed eight militants, including German nationals, in Pakistan's lawless tribal belt near the Afghan border, local security officials said.

"Five German rebels of Turkish origin and three local militants were killed in the strike," a security official said, adding they were trying to find out further details of the dead and their militant group.

Another security official told AFP that "some European nationals including Germans were killed in the strike", without giving an exact number.

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US channel Fox News, citing unnamed intelligence officials, said militants had a list of targets in France and Germany, including Paris's Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame Cathedral, Berlin's Brandenburg Gate, the city's central railway station and the Alexanderplatz TV tower.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j1BezcXF1ySvcVf_oFNjItf0xCtA?docId=CNG.85334e3a27ad4bcf55b3f7bc6b1468a9.b81
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 02:00 PM
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14. Germans!
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