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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 03:57 PM
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Outlook poor for long-term unemployed
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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“If you have not worked since 2009, do not apply!”

Ron Bouchard, who lost his Covington grading and pipeline job 20 months ago, was “outraged.” “I’ve got all this experience and talent they’re looking for and they don’t even want to talk to me because I’ve been out of work longer than six months?” he said. “Talk about discrimination. That should be illegal.”

No agency tracks the frequency of job postings that restrict applicants based on length of unemployment, and the Georgia Labor Department says it is not widespread. Anecdotally, though, reports of the practice have grown this year.

It also infuriates the long-term unemployed -- half of Georgia's 500,000 unemployed workers have been jobless at least six months. Many consider it unfair, particularly with five unemployed people for every job opening.


Read more: http://www.ajc.com/business/outlook-poor-for-long-657702.html?sms_ss=email&at_xt=4caa23c8e1358232,0



This is unfair at best and discriminatory at worst.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:12 PM
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1.  The chimp"Move south and live under the underpasses there"
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:17 PM
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2. If this is happening then Obama needs to stop this discriminatory predation
He and Congress need to penalize companies that are doing this. There's no reason they can't give companies tax breaks for updating new hires who need to brush up on their skills.

God! I loath Capitalists! They're committing crimes against citizens.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:26 PM
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4. They already get a FICA break for hiring unemployed.
If they hire a person unemployed more than 60 days for less than $105,000/year then they get employer FICA contribution waived up to 6%, IIRC.

It's not well known, I had to clue in my new employer ;)

-Hoot
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:10 PM
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6. There are more rules than just that, though. Also the 60 days is within the
6 months unemployment that's being discussed in the article. Anyway, one of the other requirements is that it has to be for a new position, not a replacement. If I recall the wording correctly the positions being hired for have to have be new in that similar positions were not being held for the 6 months previously within the company.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:39 PM
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9. Sure there are, but, it's not as hard to qualify as you imply...
Here's the IRS FAQ on it.

No 6 month restrictions on the position being hired into:
(06/01/10) QE1: Who are qualified employees?
A-QE1: Qualified employees are individuals who begin employment with a qualified employer after February 3, 2010, and before January 1, 2011, who have been unemployed or employed for 40 hours or less during the 60-day period ending on the date such employment begins, who are not employed by the qualified employer to replace another employee of that employer, unless the other employee separated from employment voluntarily or was terminated for cause, and who are not family members of or related in certain other ways to the employer.


-Hoot
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 06:28 PM
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11. Post of the day. Good luck to all who are seeking jobs.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:25 PM
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3. Sigh - we are creating a vortex of poverty- and the reaction to it
Can be best surmised as - 'meh'.
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:56 PM
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5. They're doing this for two reasons.
It's profitable, and two it's legal and even when the State Governments deal with it they will be stalled by a army of lobbyists.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:28 PM
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7. That's just what they told you....

They may have panned you for age, attitude, all sorts of things. Maybe even just getting a cheaper worker.

This is something that is not illegal. Yet.

On the other hand, I hope they don't waste time trying to make it illegal before designing a program that will put 20 million people back to work. Because the antidote to the above is just that. More jobs.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:32 PM
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8. there`s going to be millions who will never find work.
anyone over 50+ will never find the same wage or field they were rif`d from.

welcome to argentina
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 06:03 PM
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10. Yup I've had it happen to me
Just today as a matter of fact. I read it all the time on craigs list too. It's not right. It's like you chose to be unemployed all that time so FU. I am on my last leg this week I moved to Coarsegold to help with my mom, but she is moving in with my brother. I have had no job for about 2 years, and am at the end of my unemployment and I am getting the boot from where I live this Friday. I may resort to a camper shell and live in my truck. I have never been homeless before. I am 49 and that makes it hard to find a job too.
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speppin Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 07:25 PM
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12. Employees can be very choosy in this market.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:53 PM
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17. What employees can be choosy? How?
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 08:28 PM
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13. Know this firsthand
Millions of people are in this same boat. And like others said, if you are near 50 or older, you are truly screwed.

Having been really poor before, I never got in the middle-class mindset, although my salary was there. That's the only thing that's saving me now and I'll likely find a way to keep my small home in sketchy neighborhood. I'm so glad I didn't follow the pack a trade up because I would be screwed already.

I'm just glad I don't have a family to take care of. I'll find a way to survive.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 09:06 PM
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14. I hate to say there outta be a law
but this time I will say it. It should be illegal to discriminate against the long-term unemployed, so long as that worker was not terminated for cause.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 10:55 AM
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15. kick for the jobless. eom
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:53 PM
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16. Disgusting.
I'd lie. I lie lie lie and put that I have worked - make some other company up and say they went bankrupt or something like that - just to get this job I need. If companies are going to be that amoral and totally abandon all business ethics, then I will too.
Fucking disgusting.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 02:25 PM
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18. Been there, done that...
When I was unemployed, I might as well have been the crazy guy screaming on the street corner about his ten point plan for victory in Vietnam where recruiters were concerned - but as soon as I found a job, as a "manager" which mostly involved sorting disgusting soiled returns and unsold merchandise recruiters began selling me as a young buck Fortune 500 manager looking for "opportunities to grow".

It is all about recruitment firms giving the illusion they have an inside track to prime candidates when they are just trolling Monster like anyone else.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 02:28 PM
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19. Welcomoe to the New Normal
The American Dream is long gone.

Thanks republicans, you sold our future to the rich and powerful.

you Bastards!
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