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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:18 PM
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Samaritan Hero: God 'Put Me Here' to Rescue Girl
Source: AOL News

-- The California man who helped rescue an 8-year-old girl abducted outside her Fresno home says he is grateful he was able to intervene, but doesn't feel he did anything out of the ordinary.

"I thank God that he put me here to help out that little girl, that's for sure," Victor Perez, the man police are now hailing as a "good Samaritan" and "hero," told KFSN-TV.

The girl was abducted in front of her Fresno home Monday night, just minutes after police had received a report about a man, believed to be the suspected kidnapper, exposing himself to two other children in the same area, according to news reports. A statewide Amber Alert was issued after the abduction.

Perez, a 29-year-old local grape picker and father of two who had decided not to go to work because of inclement weather, had heard the Amber Alert and spotted a suspect vehicle around 7 a.m. Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/samaritan-hero-victor-perez-i-thank-god-he-put-me-here-to-rescue-girl/19663084?ncid=webmail



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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:20 PM
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1. I wonder about the little girls who had no such luck and ended up murdered by the psychos.
I guess they weren't "important" to "God's plan".
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:22 PM
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2. Yep, the whole "thank god" crap here and elsewhere is just so annoying
and must be so hurtful to so many who believe in that shit, but lost their child or whatever. If they believe in a god, then to hear this must make them think they weren't important enough, or somehow deserved their loss. Disgusting and shameful.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:29 PM
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5. The point is, the guy was there at the right time.
If that's how HE makes sense of it, well, that's his business.

What matters is these people didn't lose their daughter.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:31 PM
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6. I guess different things matter to different people. I think it all matters and that there
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 05:31 PM by Better Today
are more than one or two points. However I am usually looking at multiple points while most are zeroing in on one or two.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:06 PM
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14. I would rather have him helping out than you any day
judging by your sad, pointless attitude.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:14 PM
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16. Really? Wow, so you only want help from someone who gives credit to
a god? Good thing when I help people I don't ask first if I need to have respect for their god before I assist, I just get busy. So when you need help next time are you really going to screen the person attempting to help to be sure they are not me?
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:29 AM
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35. "I am usually looking at multiple points while most are zeroing in on one or two."
Your evangelical stance on this issue would seem to belie that statement.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:53 PM
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39. You misunderstood
I would not trust YOU under any circumstances.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 10:05 PM
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41. He was there at the right time, but God gave him the strength to act...
when it mattered.

Nobody here can explain what motivated him, so it's pointless to act like his answer is any stupidier than anybody elses.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:32 PM
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44. That's actually what I was trying to say.
And all I meant was, if that's how HE makes sense of it, whose business is that of anyone else?
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:55 PM
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50. I know, we're sort of saying the same thing.
I think I took it a step farther though and said it probably was "God" that helped him do this. No matter what you believe, if "God" is what actually caused him to act, because of his beliefs and the strength it gave him to act, then there really is no arguing with that.

In the same situation, 90% of people wouldn't have done anything probably, 9.5% of people would have just called 911 and let them handle it, and .5% of people would have stepped in and done something. I'm probably in the 9.5% who would have called 911 by not gotten personally involved, so I'm glad this guy had "God" on his side :)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:08 PM
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32. actually, I think he can believe and say what he wants for his
moment because he was there and acted. I don't feel offended and I don't blame God when he doesn't answer my prayers and help me the way I want him to. I am just thankful that this man was motivated by good to do good and if wants to thank god, then bravo.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:21 PM
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49. We are taught that God gives us free will to choose good or evil.
If God interfered every time someone did something bad or something bad happened, then free will would be a farce. If free will is a valid concept, then God can't rescue us from the malice of others and/or our own ignorance which puts us in the wrong place at the wrong time.

On the other hand, it's my personal belief that whenever the universe isn't watching, God cheats and nudges things to help people out!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:38 PM
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8. Oh, haven't you heard? God has a "plan."
Sharron Angle Opposes Abortion Even With Rape, Incest: 'God Has A Plan' (AUDIO)

Since winning the Republican nomination in the Nevada Senate race Sharron Angle has drawn attention and controversy for a host of conservative policy prescriptions that seem well outside the political mainstream. Now, a Democratic source has passed along a radio interview she did back in January 2010 that could end up topping the list.

In an segment that has gone unnoticed since it first aired, the Tea Party-backed candidate told the Bill Manders show -- a favorable platform for Republican candidates -- that she opposed abortion even in cases of rape and incest. A pregnancy under those circumstances, she said, was "God's plan."


Huffington Post

Perhaps Sharron believes he'll replace them with the babies born to raped women who won't be able to get abortions...
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:27 PM
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3. Do no harm..
If someone's belief system causes me no harm why should I mock it. We don't have to share beliefs but I dont feel the need to add anything to what he said.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:42 PM
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24. +1
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 11:08 PM
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42. One of the few genuinely liberal sentiments expressed in this thread. n/t
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:41 PM
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46. i don't believe that belief in the invisible sky daddy is harmless n/t
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:27 PM
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4. I'm glad the little girl is safe
Thank goodness
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:35 PM
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7. If god put the rescuer in a position to rescue the youngster wouldn't you think that an all seeing
all knowing god would have intervened to prevent her abduction in the first place?
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:41 PM
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10. How
Can he prove that he exists by guiding people to rescue kidnapped children if he doesn't let children get kidnapped, raped, and murdered?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:16 PM
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17. +1
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 10:11 PM
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33. He used his ethical heart to do a good deed and gave credit
to god because he's a humble man. I just wish on a nice thread that it wouldn't devolve into everyone's personal bitch about religion. This man acted and if he feels that God helped him, fine. As for god being the puppet master of all people, then get a grip. we have free will and a conscience, most of us. god isn't responsible for the stuff people don't do and the shit they pull. people are.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:24 AM
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36. Well said!
In fact, well said on the entire post - every word of it.
:toast:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:40 AM
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37. Excellent point
What is it anyone heres business who the rescuer thanks? Does that make him less heroic to that little girl who was saved? Honestly, the atheists are sometimes even more annoying, and just as strident, than the evangelicals.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:42 PM
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47. + a lot n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:40 PM
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9. Only at DU does a good Samaritan get slammed for his beliefs
instead of praised for his courage.

Nice going.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:53 PM
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11. +10000000
:thumbsup:
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:54 PM
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12. Exactly. nt
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:01 PM
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13. I'm having some difficulty classifying any of the existing post in this thread as "slamming".
But maybe that's just me.

Me, I tried to be careful to only talk specifically about the "god saves" concept and not say anything bad about the guy who saved the girl.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:13 PM
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15. This story is pretty remarkable because little colorful girls
usually don't get the attention that their blonder sisters do when they go missing. And yet in this case, there was at least one young man who went out of his way to help this child. I don't care if he believes there were dinosaurs on the ark with Trailer Hitch Jesus and the Flying Elvii, that's pretty cool.

:)



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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:17 PM
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18. Exactly--this guy was paying attention, then decided to act on it.
He used his brain to follow through. I am just so saddened that she was assaulted, however. :(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:20 PM
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20. I know but at least, she was found quickly and she's alive.
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 06:20 PM by EFerrari
This story could have ended very badly.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 11:12 PM
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43. lol, where did you find that pic? n/t
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:16 PM
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51. Not just you.
"But maybe that's just me..

Not just you. I imagine a few others will whistle innocently too...
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:19 PM
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19. +1 nt
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:21 PM
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22. I agree. This guy is a hero, and entitled to his beliefs. What he did is what counts.
What's happening here? Geez, I have been here for a considerable time. I don't give a rip whether this guy attributes his actions to Santa, Thetans, his own courage, or the bratwurst he had for lunch.

He has the right to believe what he wants. What counts to me is that he risked his own life to save this little girl.

Give it a rest otherwise.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:50 PM
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25. Okay, so...

If he says, "I rescued her because she is white, and us white people need to stick together."

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:42 PM
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28. Then he still rescued a little girl
He might have done so for assholish reasons, but the girl is safe, so it frankly doesn't matter.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 12:46 AM
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34. Good point /nt
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:48 AM
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38. Not just DU. Reddit would really blast him. n/t
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:37 PM
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45. Exactly
I'm glad these people aren't running for office, because we would lose every one of those seats.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:17 PM
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48. No kidding! People sure are grumpy here lately.
It was a nice story about a nice person.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:21 PM
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21. I think the salient point is that was the reporter who chose to play up the God comment.
I'm sure the man said a lot of different things to the reporter. It was the reporter who made the decision to focus on this particular comment.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:25 PM
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23. You may well have a point there. I know our local news will actually push
people to say god things after emergencies. On camera they'll keep asking and asking if they feel that god must've been on their side that day, or something similar till all but the most sturdy, will finally give in and say yes. We're all laden down with mormons and catholics around here, though they are mostly the most bigoted, hateful folks. Perhaps why I have such a violent reaction to anything god.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:22 PM
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27. That is EXACTLY the point.
And I can only imagine how hard it must be for people who did not get their child back safely to reconcile that fact with their own personal religious beliefs. And that is why I think reporting such things (giving credit to god) is actually potentially harmful to people.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:09 PM
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31. Good thing it was Saturday.
"WHERE is my SUNDAY paper?!"
The irate customer calling the newspaper office, loudly demanded to know where her Sunday edition was.


"Madam", said the newspaper employee, "today is Saturday. The Sunday paper is not delivered until tomorrow, on SUNDAY".
There was quite and long pause on the other end of the phone, followed by a ray of recognition as she was heard to mutter,
"Well, shit, that explains why no one was at church today."
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:20 PM
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26. Waitaminnit.... "Perez?" Ain't that one o' them there Meskin names?
We sure don't want BROWN people in our neighborhoods to, ummm....

...be good citizens?

:sarcasm:

wearily,
Bright
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:53 PM
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29. Clearly this fundie needs to be re-educated. What he thinks is far
more important than what he did.:sarcasm:
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kimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:04 PM
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30. He did a good thing
He helped a child. A CHILD. Who had been assaulted.

I do not see where his beliefs translate into a justification on an attack on WHAT HE DID. A child is alive probably because of his actions.

How can this be in any way criticized??
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 10:03 PM
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40. Kick ass!!! Great job God!!
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