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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:20 AM
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Obama says GOP wants to 'cut education by 20 percent'
Source: The Hill


Obama says GOP wants to 'cut education by 20 percent'
By Bridget Johnson - 10/09/10 06:00 AM ET

President Obama pitched education initiatives and funding as key to preparing kids for the jobs of the future, and accused congressional Republicans of standing in the way of goals to graduate more students from college.

In his weekly address, Obama began by saying he was fighting to create jobs and rebuild the economy as American families are struggling. But he said that kids need to be better prepared for the jobs of the future in a global economy. "China and India aren’t playing for second," he said. "South Korea and Germany aren’t playing for second. They’re playing for first – and so should America."


He touted the Skills for America's Future initiative introduced earlier in the week intended to connect students with employers, and the Race to the Top program that aims to graduate more students from college per capita than any other country by 2020.

"And yet, if Republicans in Congress had their way, we’d have a harder time meeting that goal," Obama said. "We’d have a harder time offering our kids the best education possible. Because they’d have us cut education by 20 percent – cuts that would reduce financial aid for eight million students; cuts that would leave our great and undervalued community colleges without the resources they need to prepare our graduates for the jobs of the future."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/123489-obama-accuses-gop-of-wanting-to-cut-education-by-20-percent
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:36 AM
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1. Of course they do
because a stupid populace is an easily controlled populace, and that has been the Republican plan all along, to control.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:47 AM
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2. Obama/Duncan privatizing education & turning it over to corporations is NOT a "cut" ? hmmm nt
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:13 AM
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4. Agree.
Its hard to work up any outrage over GOP cuts when Obama's privatizing the school system.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:53 PM
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7. Yep. n/t
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 09:28 PM
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22. THAT IS A LIE! - "Obama Signs Emergency Bill to Halt Teacher Layoffs"
If it were not for President Obama and the Democrats, hundreds of thousands of public school teachers would be laid off. Yet, people spread these lies that Democrats, not Republicans, are enemies to public education. Just because you think that public education can and should be improved does not mean you are an enemy to public education.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=11370774


Summoned back from summer break, the House on Tuesday pushed through an emergency $26 billion jobs bill that Democrats said would save 300,000 teachers, police and others from election-year layoffs. President Barack Obama immediately signed it into law.

Lawmakers streamed back to Washington for a one-day session as Democrats declared a need to act before children return to classrooms minus teachers laid off because of budgetary crises in states that have been hard-hit by the recession.

Republicans saw it differently, calling the bill a giveaway to teachers' unions and an example of wasteful Washington spending that voters will punish the Democrats for in this fall's elections. The legislation was approved mainly along party lines by a vote of 247-161.

The aid for the states is to be paid for mostly by closing a tax loophole used by multinational corporations and by reducing food stamp benefits for the poor.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:13 AM
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3. No, they want to cut it to zero
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 10:14 AM by NewJeffCT
and have subsidies for the rich who send their kids to private schools. When are we going to learn that the GOP doesn't care about the bottom 99% except to care for their lawns and other things.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 04:38 PM
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11. Well, Tea Partiers are conservatives that are smart enough to figure that the GOP doesn't care
about them, but too stupid to realize that the horsepucky Supply Side that they have been force fed isn't in thier best interests either.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:36 PM
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:34 PM
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10. Why is that in poor areas
In places like NYC parents are DESPERATE to get there kids out of the public schools system. Why are they so eager to give charter schools a try?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:53 PM
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15. Because most schools are financed by property taxes in wealthier communities ....
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 08:54 PM by defendandprotect
poorer districts have schools which are neglected --

and I'd venture to say, it began with Brown vs Board of Education -- a backlash

by GOP/RIGHT WINGERS vs public education.

We could have done integration in much more sensible and intelligent ways -- creating

magnet schools which would have been 50/50 "whites" and people of color -- schools

which any parent would have been pleased to enroll their child in.

Rather, they dumped poor black children into almost as poor "white" areas creating a

backlash not against the insane policies, but against integration ... which was the

purpose of many who developed these plans.

Remember also that many "white" parents withdrew their children from private/Catholic schools

in the inner cities which created a new situation of inner city Catholic schools becoming

mainly schools for poor children -- Puerto Ricans, African Americans.

What's going on now is the same thing that went on in the South after Brown vs Board of Ed --

it is simply setting up a system for to resegregate AA children into poor schools -- and

to create a new system of privatized schools for "white" children.



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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:21 PM
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18. Setting the example. Our kids learn far more from what we do
as opposed to what we say.

The vast majority of politicians send their kids to expensive private schools instead of public schools. The message they send by doing this is intuitively obvious to the casual observer.

Sadly, It's the ethics of Leona Helmsley applied to education:

"We don't send our kids to public schools, only the little people send their kids to public
schools!"

* Not an actual quote - extrapolated from her famous statement on taxes.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 04:16 PM
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21. Probably a prevalent elite view ... HOWEVER,
notice what a desperate time they still have competing with the average

public schooled pupil when they are given a fair education.

Don't see that the African American community is "dumb" given the centuries

long and purposeful hobbling of their educations even today -- often they

have a quicker and deeper understanding of what is actually going on politically.

Loved Rangell's comment about W Bush if you recall it --

Something like "Bush having ended any thought of white superiority for all time" -- ???

Something like that --


:evilgrin:







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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:52 PM
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6. I actaully believe this. They prefer an uneducated public. Less educated people ar apt to believe
their lies and keep them in power.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:57 PM
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16. It is certainly part of the agenda to return to the Wilson era of training
students to "work in factories."

They'll simply give them the training that corporations don't want to pay for directly!

IT IS A LIBERAL EDUCATION which provides an individual with the ability to move forward

and that is certainly something the elites want to destroy any notion of!

Also -- the right wing agenda is obviously to resegregate the schools and privatizing them

is another way to do that --

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:04 PM
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8. What's left to cut?
Sports - Gone or pay to play
Music - Gone or pay to play
Drama - Gone or pay to play
Science - Gone
History - What history, Texas style?
Transportation - Gone (many even in high school rely on buses to get to school)

Pay to play was introduced because of all the education budget cuts and that kills many programs because the students parents can't afford the 300 - 400 dollar/year pay to play fees.

I guess they could cut everything but the abstinence classes and school prayer.

The GOP wants a dumb population because they are much easier to manipulate and make great FOX viewers.



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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:01 PM
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9. They can cut the school lunch program
Keep 'em dumb and hungry. Then they are twice as easy to control.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 04:56 PM
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12. "...and we only want to cut it by 15%."
:think:
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silver10 Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 06:27 PM
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13. Keep the population uneducated
Because how else can they get most people to vote against their own self interests? By keeping them stupid while they can afford the best private schools, tutors, and colleges.
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 07:27 PM
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14. You got that right
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:11 PM
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17. I've read that actually the Federal Budget for schools often contained hidden $$ for CIA ....
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 09:11 PM by defendandprotect
-- often as much as 50% of the school budget -- !!!

All of that "throwing money at schools" was more like "throwing money at CIA"!!!

Don't know how long that deception went on -- for all we know it's still happening!

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DeltaLitProf Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:35 AM
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19. Do you have a source for this?
n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 03:51 PM
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20. Some thing I read a long time ago --
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 04:18 PM by defendandprotect
a long time ago - probably someone like Greider -- or something heard on

C-span when you could still hear something interesting there ...

not from the internet.


Keep in mind, we also found out with Wm. Buckley's death that the CIA -- which took

money from ANY right wing sources, including KKK and Nazis -- had been funding the

campaigns of right wing Senators/Reps in Congress -- evidently a long list of them.

But, I only know the names of two: Sen. Strom Thurmond and Rep. Gerry Ford!

They also long financed Pat Buchanan's career!!



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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 07:46 AM
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24. They want to cut SS 100%
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