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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:08 AM
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Obama to Press for Infrastructure
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 10:12 AM by kpete
Source: New York Times

Obama to Press for Infrastructure
By JACKIE CALMES
Published: October 11, 2010

WASHINGTON – President Obama will join mayors, governors and current and former transportation secretaries on Monday to argue for a major initiative to repair and modernize the nation’s roads, rails and air systems, just weeks before an election that is all but certain to expand the size of his Republican opposition in Congress.

A new report from economists at the Treasury and Mr. Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers concludes that this is the “optimal time” to invest in public infrastructure because of high unemployment and lower prices in the construction industry, which has been hit harder than any other sector by the puncturing of the bubble in housing and commercial real estate.

Yet this is hardly an optimal time politically for such initiatives. Congress showed little appetite in recent months for additional stimulus spending at a time of high deficits. While Friday’s monthly jobs report confirmed a slowdown in already anemic private-sector hiring, and stoked calls from cities, states, business groups, unions and many economists for more federal help, Congress is out until after the elections. And then, a lame-duck Congress is unlikely to tackle any but essential business – especially if Republicans make big gains or even attain a majority in either the Senate or House when they reconvene in January.

Mr. Obama and two Cabinet members – Ray LaHood, his transportation secretary and a former Republican congressman, and Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner -- will meet at the White House with a group that includes former transportation secretaries Norman Y. Mineta, a Democrat who served in the George W. Bush administration, and Samuel K. Skinner, a Republican who was in George H. W. Bush’s cabinet.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/12/us/politics/12obama.html



mr. pete and i think that Infrastructure sets the stage for a BETTER America...
this pleased us both very much this morning with our coffee, kpete
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:19 AM
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1. While this both good news and necessary - timing
Is everything.

Pushing on this some months ago would probably have
Garnered larger support in congress.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:26 AM
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2. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.:thumbsup:
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:27 AM
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3. Forget about politics. That is just words. Lets have investments in infrastructure, technology,
and education.  I am behind this. 
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:31 AM
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4. We could have got alot of it done already if we had had a "make works" project
bailout instead of just a banking/wallstreet bailout.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:37 AM
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5. All but certain.
Man the New York Times has gone down in stature. The literally just tow the Republican line
these days. They must be prepping to sell their diminishing rag to Rupert Murdoch.
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:37 AM
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6. This should have been done in the first 100 days.
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:20 AM by SomeGuyInEagan
Hell, this *should* have been done under Clinton when the economy was actually growing across the board and the deficit was shrinking - anyone else remember Greenspan testifying about his fear that we might pay off our nation's debt too fast in 2000 or 2001? Grrrrrrr ....

But, this could have and should have been floated in the first 100 days. It could have been tied to a jobs bill and additionally as part of TARP, requiring the financial institutions to agree to give loans to small businesses (such as construction) as part of taking the money.

If it had been - just floated and pushed (even if Republicans blocked it or threatened to block it, which is the same thing in today's Congress) - the Dems might not be looking at a hard fight to keep both houses in a month.

It's the economy, stupid. And the middle and lower classes are always the economy.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:57 AM
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7. Yes it should have.
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:00 AM by Hubert Flottz
The first thing Obama did should have been a bailout of the American workforce instead of bailing out banksters and wall street gangsters.

Edit...And Obama needs to get rid of every republican anywhere near the White House. Even the three little pigs learned after a couple of disasters that you just can't trust the wolves.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:09 AM
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8. Yeah - he should have extended unemployment for people who ran out of weeks
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:43 AM by jpak
He should have subsided COBRA for the unemployed

He should have added $100 a month to unemployment checks

He should have had a $1500 rebate for folks to by a wood stove or a pellet furnace

He should have given folks $3000 to weatherize their homes.

He should have saved the folks of hundreds of thousands of teachers, cops and firefighters

He should have given first-time home buyers a big fat tax rebate

He should have given car buyers a big fat tax credit when they traded in their gas guzzlers

He should have given homeowners a big fat tax credit for installing solar energy devices

but he didn't

Oh wait.....he dd

never mind
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:42 AM
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10. He did all those things and the roads are still shot to hell.
Look at the jobs that 700 billion could have created and look at how much better off the country would be.

The thing that really sucks, is that Obama is calmly taking all the blame, for the Wall Street Bailout that BUSH and his crew started. I rarely hear that mentioned these days.

A bill that would have taken some or all of the money that was paid back supposedly, by the banksters and investing on infrastructure rebuilding would have been great, but the republicans have done everything in their power to see that Obama fails. Even though Obama failing means that the entire country very well may STILL fail.

The fact that Obama even thought about Judd Greg for a cabinet post makes me want to fucking vomit.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:53 AM
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11. +1 but better late than never - infrastructure is literally crumbling on E. Coast
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:36 PM
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16. Yes. It should have been.
Why the wait? Why only now?


I'm going to be cynical and make a prediction, given that Obama has already shown that he does not bail out "the people," only corporations.

I'll bet that Obama will not do anything like the the government did with the WPA, REA, and other New Deal agencies in the 30s, having people and work crews working for the government to build infrastructure.

He'll give money directly to corporations to do the work, and expect those corporations hire people. He won't even give them strict regulations for using that money, like he did with the auto industry. That will leave it to corporations to set the work rules and standards, and make sure people are hired on a temp basis without benefits. It will leave them able to give their executives high pay and bonuses while hiring workers workers for peanuts.



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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:39 PM
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17. Sounds about right.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 02:10 PM
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18. Agreed.
Then the banks wouldn't have needed a bailout because there would have been enough capital flowing up from earners to plump up their reserves. Same for state and local gov'ts who's tax coffers would have been replenished by these local jobs.

D'oh?
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:16 AM
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9. Rate of Commerce will reduce to pre-national highway system levels if we dont invest
there is a great show on learning channel I think, and its name escapes me. Good detail about how bad our infrastructure is these days. Really good point was made that manufacturers (you know, one of the giant foundation blocks of a good economy) consider how fast product X will get to the port. Most of it is moved by truck these days, and China has a much faster time than the US. They said commercial trucking will double in the next 15-20 years (imagine the increase in car traffic) and will choke our interstates. Here in Colorado, we still drive on eisenhower era highways. Its going to be a mess.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:19 PM
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12. We REALLY need that pipeline from Treasury to Wall St enlarged
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 12:19 PM by HereSince1628
and all the nation's foreclosure superhighways need Speed-Pass!

After that, communities should be well and truly able to sell their utilities to foreign investors who can manage them properly.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:22 PM
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13. Excellent, and long past due.
Now lets hear from the 'nattering nabobs of negativism!'
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:28 PM
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14. Uh-oh
A big-government socialist Muslin takeover of the transportation industry

Tonight on Big Media
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:29 PM
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15. Is this where the fed can be helpful?
they probably don't even need congressional approval to issue a trillion in public works bonds.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 02:25 PM
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19. K&R. nt
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 02:36 PM
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20. Umm dude, guess what?
They are already doing this in MA. They have been working on every single highway I use to commute to work for the better part of 20 years. They even have signs put up everywhere now bragging about it. They'll never finish.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 09:10 PM
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21. Take a quarter of military spending, give the displaced personnel jobs in construction and it's paid...
for and then some.
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